History / Have Poles blood on their hands? :) [496]


I know that some people here on PF say they deserved it, but don't forget the approx. 8.4 million Germans, of which 2.7 million were civilians (numbers vary depending on source). They are also part of what we call history, which obviously is much more complicated than we think.

History / Have Poles blood on their hands? :) [496]


You have a point here, although I believe that the mass murder in the concentration camps wouldn't have been possible without the war.

History / Have Poles blood on their hands? :) [496]


Before the start of WW2???? Do you have a link?

History / Have Poles blood on their hands? :) [496]

The quote doesn't seem to be backed up properly. If I understood the Wikimedia source correctly, it was taken out of a dubious 'L-3' document which wasn't even presented at the Nuremberg trials. BB, can you shed some light on this?

History / Have Poles blood on their hands? :) [496]

Here's the description for the document's source:

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History / Have Poles blood on their hands? :) [496]


That's all very vague. Quotes:

"The documents used in evidence at Nuremberg consisted largely of "photocopies" of "copies". Many of these original documents were written entirely on plain paper without handwritten markings of any kind, by unknown persons."

"The document appears to have been prepared on the same typewriter as many other Nuremberg documents"

History / Have Poles blood on their hands? :) [496]


You want to insult me? I was just quoting the remarks on the web site that BB posted. Besides: you are talking about questioning history here all the time, so why not question the accuracy of the allied version of history as well? Like "The USA liberated Europe" for example... ;)

History / Have Poles blood on their hands? :) [496]


No worries.

Genealogy / What certificate is this?; birth certificate from the greek catholic church [63]


WW2 ended in 1945 and the USSR stopped bordering Poland in December 1991. There are no valid reasons whatsoever to be suspicious, except for being paranoid probably.


Yep, which "assured" Poland by dumping the missile shield... :)


Such as? If an ethnic Pole was born in the German Empire, he was a German (citizen) and not a citizen of some non-existent state. Legally there were NO occupied territories, just three different nations - Russia, Austria-Hungary and the German Empire. Claiming something else is wishful thinking.

Genealogy / What certificate is this?; birth certificate from the greek catholic church [63]


You know the difference between ethnicity and citizenship, do you? The immigration officers at Ellis Island and elsewhere were NOT interested in your heritage or if you felt like an ethnic Pole. In the vast majority of cases they asked the immigrants in which country they were born. So yes, an ethnic Pole born in the German Empire was a German citizen. If you don't get this then you really need to stay away from this thread, as you do not understand the basic principles of genealogy.


Are you sure? Maybe it's just you who desperately wants to see Russia as an enemy of Poland? Are you a Reagan fan by any chance? ;)


I didn't say that. An ethnic Pole born in the Russian Empire was a Russian citizen, even if he felt Polish. Citizenship/ethnicity ... see above.

Genealogy / What certificate is this?; birth certificate from the greek catholic church [63]


Why? I believe that to most people (in the west?) heritage is not really important. And honestly, what difference does it make whether your g-g-g-grandfather grew up in Poland, Germany or Russia, and whether he felt like a German, Russian or Pole? Some people here on PF take heritage, national pride and history way too serious, IMHO.

Genealogy / What certificate is this?; birth certificate from the greek catholic church [63]


European countries west of the Iron Curtain, north American countries, Australia and New Zealand. Did I forget one? You know what I mean.


Well, I don't know anyone personally who is. People are interested in their heritage, yes, but "proud"?


Then you're under the wrong impression - this is the Genealogy section, a small part of Polish Forums... ;)

Why is it so important to you whether your ancestors called themselves ethnic Poles, Germans or Russians? What difference does that make for your genealogical research? Genealogy has nothing to do with "I'm proud to be a <insert your favourite nationality here>".

Genealogy / What certificate is this?; birth certificate from the greek catholic church [63]

markskibniewski

I doubt that you will find records from the Russian Empire in Germany. The catholic archive in Regensburg handed over their church books to Poland a few years ago and is closed now, so the advice they gave you to look for missing records in Poland was a good one.

You will find that many records were destroyed during WW2 or simply disappeared after the Red Army looted the churches close to the end of the war. There are rumours for example that the LDS was invited to renovate and scan 400.000+ (!!!) stolen church books in Moscow, before they disappear forever in some dubious archive. There's a good chance that the records you're looking for are amongst the books I just mentioned. We'll have to wait and see when (and if) the Mormons come up with the relevant microfilms in the future.

Some web sites that might be of interest for you:

familysearch.org
odessa3.org/index.html
ezab.org/d/bframe.html

Genealogy / What certificate is this?; birth certificate from the greek catholic church [63]


Not only the Polish authorities, but many others, too. They pretend to be against the Mormon practice of baptizing the dead, but in reality they are just afraid to lose the profits from research and document copying. Sadly, genealogy has become big business.

Genealogy / What certificate is this?; birth certificate from the greek catholic church [63]


There are too many other factors involved. Without the Serbian killer assassinating Archduke Franz Ferdinand, without the stupidity of the German Kaiser, without the Treaty of Versailles and without a whole lot of luck immediately after WW1, Poland probably wouldn't exist even today.

News / Should Poland Remove Visa Restrictions? [285]


Well, in downtown that were the main roads only if I recall correctly, right? I still remember the bullet holes (dating back to WW2) in the old buildings in the smaller side streets of East Berlin.

News / Should Poland Remove Visa Restrictions? [285]


Yes. AFAIK, only the travel to Hungary had some restrictions because its border wasn't considered "safe" and because too many tourists from western Europe also visited the country.

Work / Poland is headhunting seriously in IT, Finance and HR. [41]


Sending confidential information to a gmail account - are you serious?

Work / Poland is headhunting seriously in IT, Finance and HR. [41]

No offense, but I would never trust someone who uses an anonymous gmail account with my personal information. Ever heard of CV fraud and identity theft?

money.co.uk/article/1001747-cv-fraud-risk-for-job-hunters.htm

Work / Poland is headhunting seriously in IT, Finance and HR. [41]


Yeah, I saw the photo in your profile ... mafiosi ... :)

Work / Poland is headhunting seriously in IT, Finance and HR. [41]

Warning. Be careful to visit the blog of the OP - it seems to install a virus on your system which regular anti-virus software doesn't catch right away!!! The blog is most likely infected with an advanced version of Worm.Zhelatin which installs the malicious trojan Rootkit.Agent on your PC. Found out this morning when my ISP contacted me about unusual traffic in one of my e-mail accounts.

Work / Poland is headhunting seriously in IT, Finance and HR. [41]


I didn't say that you are spreading viruses on purpose. But you really need to check your account on blogspot.com. The worm/trojan I mentioned can only be spread via e-mail attachments or blog, and because my system was clean that morning, I didn't open any attachments on that specific day and only visited one blog (yours!), it's pretty obvious that your site must be the culprit. Just check it and make sure that you are not spreading any crap to other people's computers. Otherwise you ruin your reputation and bogspot might shut you down. What you do with this information is completely up to you; I for one won't touch your site again, that's for sure.

UK, Ireland / WHAT IS SO SPECIAL LIVING IN U.K [90]


You may want to explain how you come to such a conclusion...

UK, Ireland / WHAT IS SO SPECIAL LIVING IN U.K [90]

In Poland?

UK, Ireland / WHAT IS SO SPECIAL LIVING IN U.K [90]

That's of course a cultural achievement... :)

UK, Ireland / WHAT IS SO SPECIAL LIVING IN U.K [90]

So lung cancer from smoking equals culture?

UK, Ireland / WHAT IS SO SPECIAL LIVING IN U.K [90]

In case you didn't notice, I was just taking the p*ss out of you.


Nope. I'm Australian - supposed to have no culture at all.

UK, Ireland / WHAT IS SO SPECIAL LIVING IN U.K [90]


But the scenery was gorgeous, admit it. Something that Poland can never compete with.

History / Is There A Polish Foreign Legion? [35]

Yes, it's called 'Polonia'.

Genealogy / I'm trying to find my old friends who used @poczta.onet.pl email [22]

poczta.onet.pl exists, so the name must be misspelled or their account expired.