rock
5 Jul 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
Why ? Do you believe to another God ? There's one as far as I know !
muslims in europe is not good :(
Why ? Do you believe to another God ? There's one as far as I know !
rock
4 Jul 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
It is true. I also mentioned this before in the PF.
I believe there are fanatics for every religion. Turkey is a secular country. People is muslim but there is not any law islamic reference. Nobody can be forced to obey the rules of islam. Go to mosque, to fast, wear head scarf etc. Everybody is free.
Global powers are working to make Turkey more islamic nowadays. Because it will be easy for them to reach their aims. Soros will be very happy if they win. It is not different than Ukraine, Georgia, Yugoslavia. Liberals are supporting islamics. They support current government which has islamic tendency. Majority of the nation is aware of this trick and try to prevent it. Turks can't be like Iranians and Saudi Arabians.
As a result the threat is coming from the west.
But turks unlike germans or russians respected Poles as a strong and brave nation.
It is true. I also mentioned this before in the PF.
Today the problem is that as a islamic country Turkey is often consider as a potential threat to the western and christian civilisation. These days for many people in western world muslim = terrorist. I cant say that Im free from this prejudice. Besides all, turks have my sympathy
I believe there are fanatics for every religion. Turkey is a secular country. People is muslim but there is not any law islamic reference. Nobody can be forced to obey the rules of islam. Go to mosque, to fast, wear head scarf etc. Everybody is free.
Global powers are working to make Turkey more islamic nowadays. Because it will be easy for them to reach their aims. Soros will be very happy if they win. It is not different than Ukraine, Georgia, Yugoslavia. Liberals are supporting islamics. They support current government which has islamic tendency. Majority of the nation is aware of this trick and try to prevent it. Turks can't be like Iranians and Saudi Arabians.
As a result the threat is coming from the west.
rock
3 Jul 2008
rock
27 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
We like Hungarians too.
In Ottoman times, Finns were Turks are our relatives. Because we were strong. Now, they say threr is not any relation with Turks, we are Viking ! :)
We like Hungarians too.
In Ottoman times, Finns were Turks are our relatives. Because we were strong. Now, they say threr is not any relation with Turks, we are Viking ! :)
rock
21 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
In Turkey educated people don't curse like that.
My question will be for all the participants.
Do you want me to leave ?
so dont f.ck the title pls...here r people who wants to learn sthg more instead of Turkey's problems..
In Turkey educated people don't curse like that.
My question will be for all the participants.
Do you want me to leave ?
rock
21 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
I have been writing for this topic for almost one month. My first post was # 189. I have sent a lot of posts reflecting my opinions. Your first post # 413 was the one above which is about your curiosity where I am which nobody interests writing for this topic which could only be written by ignorant people. This is your level. Then you began to attack to me without any contribution to the topic which is very personal. Although I don't want to argue with you I forced to answer your posts.
You are a provacator and we have got a lot of people like you in our country. I will not announce which party I vote for to you which is not about this topic. You know ''curiousity kills the cat'' pay attention to your health.
Everyone has his/her own opinions and explain them freely.
You are not so important for me to target and write about. I want to write about the topic for other participants.
Rock r u in Poland?hemşerim:)
I have been writing for this topic for almost one month. My first post was # 189. I have sent a lot of posts reflecting my opinions. Your first post # 413 was the one above which is about your curiosity where I am which nobody interests writing for this topic which could only be written by ignorant people. This is your level. Then you began to attack to me without any contribution to the topic which is very personal. Although I don't want to argue with you I forced to answer your posts.
You are a provacator and we have got a lot of people like you in our country. I will not announce which party I vote for to you which is not about this topic. You know ''curiousity kills the cat'' pay attention to your health.
Everyone has his/her own opinions and explain them freely.
You are not so important for me to target and write about. I want to write about the topic for other participants.
rock
20 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
Morella, you are really saying nothing. Behaving like this you can win the Noble Prize like Orhan Pamuk who is nothing in Turkey.
Meanwhile, what's your education my poor man ?
Morella, you are really saying nothing. Behaving like this you can win the Noble Prize like Orhan Pamuk who is nothing in Turkey.
Meanwhile, what's your education my poor man ?
rock
19 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
What's your solution morella ? You say we are Asian. So where do you think Turkey has to take part ? With Arabs ? or be alone ? What do you think about the future of Turkey ? If you are capable of thinking.
All the people loves his/her country. Southern loves Greece, Bratwust boy Germany, Polish people Poland. Does it mean exaggerated nationalism. A polish likes slavic nations I think. Or a German Austria.
We have to think our countries future. Turkic republics are close to us.
I also also add Russia and Iran to this union. What will you think now ?
Your answer will be I am Assian I guess.
What's your solution morella ? You say we are Asian. So where do you think Turkey has to take part ? With Arabs ? or be alone ? What do you think about the future of Turkey ? If you are capable of thinking.
All the people loves his/her country. Southern loves Greece, Bratwust boy Germany, Polish people Poland. Does it mean exaggerated nationalism. A polish likes slavic nations I think. Or a German Austria.
We have to think our countries future. Turkic republics are close to us.
I also also add Russia and Iran to this union. What will you think now ?
Your answer will be I am Assian I guess.
rock
19 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
First you have to read about Turkic Languages below ;
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_languages
First you have to read about Turkic Languages below ;
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_languages
rock
19 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
Correction :
Çuvaşistan is in Turkish. But in English it is Chuvash Republic.
Correction :
Çuvaşistan is in Turkish. But in English it is Chuvash Republic.
rock
18 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
To compare Turkey with Arab countries is sth. like comparing any European country with Vatikan.
To prevent misunderstanding, I don't mean Arab countries are holy for Turks, but like in Vatikan, in Arabic countires religious laws applied into daily life. In Turkey although % 99 of the nation is muslim, there is not any islamic law for daily life. Turkey is secular and religion is between people and God.
They fared far better than in arab countries
To compare Turkey with Arab countries is sth. like comparing any European country with Vatikan.
To prevent misunderstanding, I don't mean Arab countries are holy for Turks, but like in Vatikan, in Arabic countires religious laws applied into daily life. In Turkey although % 99 of the nation is muslim, there is not any islamic law for daily life. Turkey is secular and religion is between people and God.
rock
18 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
Who says we don't.
We only give one chance to old Europe.
It is in our gens to go always to the West. In the history, Avars, Huns, Ottomans are all Turks.
But this time we want to reach to our goal with peace of course.
Sorry but I am not sure if we will give up even if we manage Turk Union.
Who says we don't.
We only give one chance to old Europe.
It is in our gens to go always to the West. In the history, Avars, Huns, Ottomans are all Turks.
But this time we want to reach to our goal with peace of course.
Sorry but I am not sure if we will give up even if we manage Turk Union.
rock
18 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
First results :
Yes : 1
No : 3
I don't think that we are Asian rather than European. We are Turks.
I don't feel an Arab, Iranian, Indian or Chinese more closer to me than an European.
Yes, I feel closer to Azerbaycan, Turkmenistan, Khazakistan, Uzbekistan, Kırgızistan, Tataristan, Bashkurdistan, Chuvashistan, Uyghurs in China which are all Turkic nations. And they are also different from other Asians like us.
Turkey never begs to Europe. There can be mutual benefits if Turkey enters Europe. But I believe, if it is not realized Turks Union which is 160.000.000 population will be ok. for us. Than Europe can think of her fault.
First results :
Yes : 1
No : 3
I don't think that we are Asian rather than European. We are Turks.
I don't feel an Arab, Iranian, Indian or Chinese more closer to me than an European.
Yes, I feel closer to Azerbaycan, Turkmenistan, Khazakistan, Uzbekistan, Kırgızistan, Tataristan, Bashkurdistan, Chuvashistan, Uyghurs in China which are all Turkic nations. And they are also different from other Asians like us.
Turkey never begs to Europe. There can be mutual benefits if Turkey enters Europe. But I believe, if it is not realized Turks Union which is 160.000.000 population will be ok. for us. Than Europe can think of her fault.
rock
17 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
Marek, almost nothing wrong in your Turkish in the first sentence. Only it will be ''PF forum'a''. Congratulations !
Turkish language is relatives of Finnish and Hungarian in Europe. As these 3 nations and Bulgars live together in ancient times in the area of Chuvash and Tatar together.
For example :
As far as I know Mikan means Mika's in Finnish
In Turkish Mikanın means Mika's.
Menawhile what's your vote end why?
Marek, almost nothing wrong in your Turkish in the first sentence. Only it will be ''PF forum'a''. Congratulations !
Turkish language is relatives of Finnish and Hungarian in Europe. As these 3 nations and Bulgars live together in ancient times in the area of Chuvash and Tatar together.
For example :
As far as I know Mikan means Mika's in Finnish
In Turkish Mikanın means Mika's.
Menawhile what's your vote end why?
rock
17 Jun 2008
rock
17 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
I believe the topic can also include ''What's your vote for the EU membership of Turkey ? and why?
I believe the topic can also include ''What's your vote for the EU membership of Turkey ? and why?
rock
15 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
It is the same for Armenians in 1915 in Ottoman Empire.
But our enemies are trying to call it genocide which is not.
Byzantium never commited genocide,it only transported folks to other places where they could not be threatening(like Stalin's policies in USSR).
It is the same for Armenians in 1915 in Ottoman Empire.
But our enemies are trying to call it genocide which is not.
rock
15 Jun 2008
rock
15 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
Southern,
How many Goths Byzantine Empire killed in Arcadius and 1. Leon times ?
Thousands of Goths were living in Anatolia in that times and because of a Byzantine way of genocide they all killed.
In which way modern Byzantine nation killed their emperor Andronikos Komnenos in Hipodrome? Very barbarous''.
Southern,
How many Goths Byzantine Empire killed in Arcadius and 1. Leon times ?
Thousands of Goths were living in Anatolia in that times and because of a Byzantine way of genocide they all killed.
In which way modern Byzantine nation killed their emperor Andronikos Komnenos in Hipodrome? Very barbarous''.
rock
14 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
You have to read my mail # 372. You will understand the issue.
You have to read my mail # 372. You will understand the issue.
rock
14 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
You don't understand what I say. Saints Cryllius and Methodius are important personalities. But can you say because of them Byzantium Empire did nothing bad to the nations of the countries which she conquered ?
This is the point.
You don't understand what I say. Saints Cryllius and Methodius are important personalities. But can you say because of them Byzantium Empire did nothing bad to the nations of the countries which she conquered ?
This is the point.
rock
14 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
I will conquer your country, kill you, take your everything but I will spread civilization ok? İt is really very funny.
Like USA say she brings democracy, civilization to Iraq. Iraq nation is very happy that USA brought its civilization and know how to Iraq. Iraq can make her own space program in 20 years :))))
I will conquer your country, kill you, take your everything but I will spread civilization ok? İt is really very funny.
Like USA say she brings democracy, civilization to Iraq. Iraq nation is very happy that USA brought its civilization and know how to Iraq. Iraq can make her own space program in 20 years :))))
rock
13 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
As a result, Turks in Germany are not like Turks in Turkey and are not like Germans in Germany.
SO THEY CAN BE A BRİDGE BETWEEN GERMANY AND TURKEY.
(This means they have to stay where they are now until look like someone)
As a result, Turks in Germany are not like Turks in Turkey and are not like Germans in Germany.
SO THEY CAN BE A BRİDGE BETWEEN GERMANY AND TURKEY.
(This means they have to stay where they are now until look like someone)
rock
13 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
In Turkey, Turks don't behave like this. How Turks chanced so badly has to be investigated. Congratulations Germany. İf you not exagerating, we can't admit this people to Turkey. Because we can't live with them. You say they are Turkish but they don't behave according to Turkish habits.
If the invited guest in a house refuses to go again, messes up the house, lazies around on the couch, uses the food in the fridge without paying, mocks the house wife, gets violent and disrespectful at the house owner whenever he says something it's the house owners fault, yes?
In Turkey, Turks don't behave like this. How Turks chanced so badly has to be investigated. Congratulations Germany. İf you not exagerating, we can't admit this people to Turkey. Because we can't live with them. You say they are Turkish but they don't behave according to Turkish habits.
rock
13 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
EU is not everything for Turkey. But it will benefit to Turkey and Europe both.
From your words, it is very clear that Turks in Turkey and Turks in Europe are not the same. Turks begin to migrate to Europe in 1965. All the migrants were peasants and uneducated. Never see a city other than military obligation for men. Their economic activity was agriculture and raising livestock. In Turkey's GNP agriculture was one the first items in that years.
Almost 45 years past. Turkey and Turkish people changed a lot. High percentage of people are living in big cities, uneducated people are very few. GNP services and industry are ahead, agriculture lower. Dynamic, young population interested about world. High potantial.
How can Turkish people in Europe can not change in 45 years. I don't think it is the fault of Turkish people living in Europe. It is obviously the fault of European Governments for years. They did not think them their people. They seperate them from own people. Then reaction occured in the Turks.
Bradwurst boy says young Turks try to kill an old German who warned them not to smke in the bus. In Turkey if a young man sits in a bus and an old man stands, young man stands up and gives his place to old man. This is a Turkish tradition.
How can a young Turkish man do such a thing in Germany ?
Germans are really guilty. Because they couldn't manage to adopt Turkish people to their community.
EU is not everything for Turkey. But it will benefit to Turkey and Europe both.
From your words, it is very clear that Turks in Turkey and Turks in Europe are not the same. Turks begin to migrate to Europe in 1965. All the migrants were peasants and uneducated. Never see a city other than military obligation for men. Their economic activity was agriculture and raising livestock. In Turkey's GNP agriculture was one the first items in that years.
Almost 45 years past. Turkey and Turkish people changed a lot. High percentage of people are living in big cities, uneducated people are very few. GNP services and industry are ahead, agriculture lower. Dynamic, young population interested about world. High potantial.
How can Turkish people in Europe can not change in 45 years. I don't think it is the fault of Turkish people living in Europe. It is obviously the fault of European Governments for years. They did not think them their people. They seperate them from own people. Then reaction occured in the Turks.
Bradwurst boy says young Turks try to kill an old German who warned them not to smke in the bus. In Turkey if a young man sits in a bus and an old man stands, young man stands up and gives his place to old man. This is a Turkish tradition.
How can a young Turkish man do such a thing in Germany ?
Germans are really guilty. Because they couldn't manage to adopt Turkish people to their community.
rock
13 Jun 2008
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Yes, if Europe is a ''Christain Club'' we will never be in it. Because this means Europe is still managed by religion. In that age it is really funny. And Europe has no future with this point of view.
In Turkey, some of the people trying the same thing. Make Turkey radical islamic. But you see they can't manage. Because in Turkey islamic approach is ; religion is meaningful between one person and God not between two person. But unfortunately Europeans like bratwurst boy is like radical islamics.
The problem is Europeans thinks Turks thinks like themselves about religion but it is wrong. There is a great difference between the Otooman Empire and Turkish Republic. İf you always look 300 years ago you can't see today.
Yes, if Europe is a ''Christain Club'' we will never be in it. Because this means Europe is still managed by religion. In that age it is really funny. And Europe has no future with this point of view.
In Turkey, some of the people trying the same thing. Make Turkey radical islamic. But you see they can't manage. Because in Turkey islamic approach is ; religion is meaningful between one person and God not between two person. But unfortunately Europeans like bratwurst boy is like radical islamics.
The problem is Europeans thinks Turks thinks like themselves about religion but it is wrong. There is a great difference between the Otooman Empire and Turkish Republic. İf you always look 300 years ago you can't see today.
rock
13 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
Southern, you are really a problematic person. Although your knowledge in different areas are high, you can't make healty analysis. Because you are not open minded. You have some obsessions . One of them is ''Turks''
As you know, from the beginning of creation of humankind, humans fight, make wars each other without stoping. Last example USA in Iraq. If a country fells itself strong begins to attack other countries. Byzantium empire was the same, Roma empire was the same. England and France made wars for 100 years. Ottoman Empire was also very strong in that centuries and conquer a lot of country in Europe.
Why you think when Turks conquer your country, it is vandalism ? When Byzantium empire did the same it is not?
This is also same for all conquerers. Indians in USA will laugh you when they remember and compare what they live when the modern European man come to America.
Don't be so sure. There are also analytical thinking people in Europe.
Also, I can't tell I hate Americans, Greeks, Germans, Arabics etc. How can you hate Turks. This is pathetic. One case study : İf Southern is ill and only a Turkish doctor will have to take care of him. What happens ? My answer : Southern rejects Turkish doctor. Because he hates Turks.
Southern, you are really a problematic person. Although your knowledge in different areas are high, you can't make healty analysis. Because you are not open minded. You have some obsessions . One of them is ''Turks''
You mean Europe was vandalized till close to Vienna.
As you know, from the beginning of creation of humankind, humans fight, make wars each other without stoping. Last example USA in Iraq. If a country fells itself strong begins to attack other countries. Byzantium empire was the same, Roma empire was the same. England and France made wars for 100 years. Ottoman Empire was also very strong in that centuries and conquer a lot of country in Europe.
Why you think when Turks conquer your country, it is vandalism ? When Byzantium empire did the same it is not?
Yes,you learned a lot from european nations.So much as to steal and loot all occupied lands and bring them to stagnation.
This is also same for all conquerers. Indians in USA will laugh you when they remember and compare what they live when the modern European man come to America.
You shlould know how great our knowledge of Turks is.It is so great that we are happy they cannot enter Europe again.
Don't be so sure. There are also analytical thinking people in Europe.
Also, I can't tell I hate Americans, Greeks, Germans, Arabics etc. How can you hate Turks. This is pathetic. One case study : İf Southern is ill and only a Turkish doctor will have to take care of him. What happens ? My answer : Southern rejects Turkish doctor. Because he hates Turks.