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Poland hosts lowest proportion of foreigners in the EU [115]
Future threat
That very well may be, as nobody can see in the future. There is a chance that they will start to influence govts of respective countries, but this doesn't necessary mean a bad influence. Say that they want more mosks as the number is low. I wouldn't have a particular problem with that.
I'm not a big fan of sharia law and all that jazz as I am not a fan of religion as such, but maybe it's just a way of profiling themselves. The more Europe is bashing on them, the more fanatic they will get. It's a natural response, you should know that as Poles under the Communist yoke turned massively to the Catholic Church.
What I think will happen, and neither I can look in the future, so it will all remain a guess, is that the numbers will level eventually and the Muslims will become so Westernized that they kinda automatically will adhere to the various standards of life we maintain.
Like I said in some previous post, in the big cities of NL there are certain small-scaled projects taking place in order to bring the diverse ethnic groups closer to each other. They are still in their infancy, so it's too soon to draw any conclusions, but the response is positive so far, both from the local inhabitants of the neighbourhood as well as from the immigrants in the area.
One particular project is especially successful: in a relatively small neighbourhood in Rotterdam live app. 5000 ppl, of which about 3/4 is immigrant and the rest locals. There were lots of troubles going on in that area, especially between locals and immigrants. The area has a small police station which often had to call in help from the bigger ones. Then one officer, familiar with the locals and the immigrants, had an idea. He went talking to both groups and it turned out that most of the locals were unhappy with the fact that there were so many immigrants. Not that they were immigrants, but because they had taken over local shops and bars and so on. The shops had turned into Turkish shops with Turkish stuff to sell, Pakistani shops and so on. They had to go to far away to buy the stuff they wanted. The immigrants were complaining about the closedness of the locals - never allowing to make contact on a loosely basis. Also they complained about the lack of customers, which made them hardly survive.
Then the officer went to discuss the outcome with his superiors and together they came up with another idea: they took a group of about 200 locals and immigrants, put them on a bus and drove them to a small village in Frisia (a Northern province of the Netherlands) as there were no foreigners at all living there. There they talked with the villagers, who complained that they had to drive 10 kms to a nearby town to do their shopping and how they missed the village shop and all. Also they talked about the social dynamics in the village. What the idea was: to show that they themselves are a little village within a bigger city and that they should act like one.
They returned and the officer convinced the immigrants to start carrying Dutch articles besides their original stock. On the other hand he showed the locals that the shops were now selling stuff they need and the neighbourhood shops were accessible for them too. What has happened since then is that the locals have start buying in the local shops, run by immigrants, the son of the Turkish vegetable shop keeper is doing twice a week his rounds past the elderly to take up the list of vegetables and fruit they want to have, the Moroccan butcher started carrying non-Halal pork, beef and chicken and gets Dutch clientele. Contacts have been made and both groups are now involved in neighbourhood parties, invite each other over for dinner and so on. There is nearly zero crime in the area.
In a recent interview the elderly who had been complaining about foreigners merely a year before, were now very happy with the services provided and the son of the vegetable guy has become a sort of friend of them. They won't vote on hate parties like the PVV in NL anymore. On the other hand, the Turkish and Moroccan shopkeepers don't need to listen to radical imams anymore and are becoming Westernized in high speed.
Sorry about the long story, but I just wanted to mention this as it shows that positive things can and will happen, as long as both parties are willing. It may be a small example, but it gives hope for a better future without hatred.
Edit: about the low birth rates in Europe: that's an ongoing problem within all Western countries - you can't hardly blame the rise of Islam for that.
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M-G (tiens)
