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Paulina   
25 Jul 2010
News / Poland - the least liked German neighbour. [210]

And you right now are doing everything to make me dislike Poles, if it's that what you want...congrats!

*hugs Bratwurst Boy*

why not, even if he has a point?

He hasn't. Rychlik is clearly a chauvinist.
Paulina   
25 Jul 2010
Life / Do you know any POLISH radio that actually plays music in POLISH? [11]

Dziękuję , teraz Ja puszka metalowa słuchać miły muzyka :) :)....

Proszę :)
I hope you'll enjoy it :)

peter_olsztyn & Paulina....do you know if there is a site where I can download polish hits for free???.

No idea, sorry :/

Thank u so much for the sites recomended!!! :)

You're welcome :)
Paulina   
25 Jul 2010
News / Poland - the least liked German neighbour. [210]

Seems we can put Moscow on the love-axis! :)

Yes, for sure - I've noticed Russians like and respect Germans and Germany.

plus the Turkish people don't really love you guys

I've heard that in Turkey Germans are treated very well and with much respect and attention.
Paulina   
26 Jul 2010
Life / Do Polish People steal a lot? [330]

"I think we should ignore him"

Meaning: don't treat him seriously. I am going to have a laugh from time to time though :)

(sb and their logic, LOL)

And I thought you'd leave me alone, Seanus :) You just can't help it, can you? Somehow I can stay away from you, but you can't stay away from me :/

Poland isn't a nation of thieves.
(...)
But as a whole nation - no.

Yes! Poles are a nation of thieves! Don't be so defensive, Midas :]
Paulina   
26 Jul 2010
Life / Do Polish People steal a lot? [330]

I think I should ignore her,

Thank you :)

meaning no name references

And no quoting and no referring to my person in any way - that would be nice too ;)

And Kaczyński brothers stole the Moon! A nation of thieves, I tell ya! :D
Paulina   
26 Jul 2010
Life / Do Polish People steal a lot? [330]

"I think we should ignore him"

This is also quoting, Seanus :) These " " are called quotation marks, you know :)
Let's drop this, OK? Let's just avoid each other and everything will be fine :)

Poles DO steal a lot. I'm sure Gollum was Polish :O He stole a golden ring!
Paulina   
26 Jul 2010
Life / Do Polish People steal a lot? [330]

I didn't name the person that said it

But I knew that this person was me and that's enough.

and was just exposing blatant hypocrisy, no word bending to cover up any goofs.

Aaahh, and when I did the same to you, you were so angry at me :D
And it's off topic :)

Yes, I see I have been quoted again above but will move on.

I hope so :)

Poles are thieves! Foreigners shouldn't go to Poland. Poles will steal you and put you into their pockets! :O
Paulina   
26 Jul 2010
Life / Do Polish People steal a lot? [330]

which means that if it continues posts will be binned

Does this mean "deleted completely" and not "moved to Random Chat Thread"? :/

Random Chat is commonly known as 'the bin'

Dirty buggers!

Yeah... I don't know how they do it - I mean, their pockets must be BIG or magical or something... But be wary... o_O

You have been warned.
Paulina   
26 Jul 2010
Life / Do Polish People steal a lot? [330]

From what I have seen the Polish are very sneaky

They sneak in the shadows and steal you!

Poland is a very corrupt country.

It's Mordor! :S
Paulina   
26 Jul 2010
Love / How easy is it to pick up a girl from a club/bar in Warsaw ? [65]

When a guy says a women is a slut...

*Whispering*: I know, but don't tell anybody that I know ;)

There are over 19 million Polish girls in PL, and everyone of them are different.

They are all different sluts :P

But paulina is a girl

Pfff, I'm a woman already! *stamping her feet*
Paulina   
27 Jul 2010
Life / Do Polish People steal a lot? [330]

It's an epidemic!

Poles are sick thieves! :O

ours had learned their trade from the best, you know - Jews

Did you know that simple people in Russia supposedly think that all Poles are Jews? ;D
Paulina   
27 Jul 2010
Life / WHY DO POLES USE ENGLISH WORDS IN CONVERSATION? [396]

and this one, which i have to assume is taken from English, "harde slowa" which from context translated to "harsh words".

I doubt it's from English (if it is, it's not a present-day borrowing as it is a quite old-fashioned word) - in Polish there is a word "hardy", for example: "hardy człowiek" (a haughty man).

sjp.pl/co/hardy
Paulina   
27 Jul 2010
Study / Which Polish Universities are multilingual, and teach Psychology? [36]

Which Polish Universities are multilingual, and teach Psychology?

The University of Warsaw:

irk.uw.edu.pl/katalog.php?op=info&id=DM-PS-ANG&change_lang=en

psychology.pl/[/url]

It will be difficult to find, if you want to study at a "real" university.

Not that difficult - The University of Warsaw is a very "real" university ;)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Warsaw
Paulina   
27 Jul 2010
News / Poland and Kresy being reunited? [162]

But face it man, you can't go seriously planning a retaking of Lwow

I doubt anyone sane would seriously think about it, let alone plan it LOL
Paulina   
27 Jul 2010
History / Warsaw Uprising - The Forgotten Soldiers [117]

Sure they did...Hitler had been open for negotiating about Danzig and the corridor...even for an alliance against Stalin...

Bratwurst Boy, would you approve if Poland negotiated with Hitler or even created an alliance with that monster?

YOU ASKED FOR AN ARSE KICK!

O_O
Paulina   
27 Jul 2010
History / Warsaw Uprising - The Forgotten Soldiers [117]

I'm not a Pole...

But I'm asking you.

ask yourself what would had been better.

Poles made their choice long time ago.

The grievances about Silesia, Danzig, a corridor had been real and not unreasonable.

Hitler wasn't reasonable.

You should have negotiated.

I wonder what would happen to non-Germans (including Jews) living in those lands?
Besides, I'm pretty sure Hitler would attack Poland anyway.

A common enemy was stalinist Russia.

And Third Reich was what? A friend? LOL

There had been other, more agreeable, smarter and even neutral countries who came out of that WWII desaster nearly unscathed.

Only Poland was between Third Reich and the Soviet Union.
And could you name those "more agreeable, smarter and even neutral countries"?

In the end you were forced to ally with another monster who kept you under your thumb for 50+ more years as the Hitler nightmare was over after '45.

So? If Poland allied with Hitler the Soviets would take revenge not only on Germans but also on Poles.

Were you born yesterday?
Do you seriously think it was all about a lousy railway line in 1939?

I think PennBoy lives in the US ;)
Paulina   
27 Jul 2010
History / Warsaw Uprising - The Forgotten Soldiers [117]

You have no idea what you're talking about

I think I do :) You see, not far from my city there is a town in which before the war most of the inhabitants were Jews. During the war there was a ghetto there. All the Jews were transported from there to Auschwitz and other concentration camps. So, there are no Jews in this town anymore. I pass this town every time I go to visit my grandma in the countryside. My grandpa and his family almost starved to death. You know that Slavs were sub-humans too? Would you like me to describe to you what my grandpa saw? What a German officer did to a little Gipsy girl?

and yet you continue to talk, you show no proof no evidence to show otherwise, please wow me.

To show what?

i've read more books, articles, saw more documentaries on WW2 than you have hairs on your head, girlie.

So?

What seams irrational or hard to believe doesn't mean it is. Hitler didn't think about what would be good for Germans 5 years from know, he though hundreds of years ahead.

Hundreds of years? Then it's good he was mortal and he killed himself :)
Paulina   
27 Jul 2010
History / Warsaw Uprising - The Forgotten Soldiers [117]

Be real Paulina...at that time NOBODY gave a flying f'uck about Jews.

But I do.

So stop making the Poland decision a jewish one...

I'm not. It's my decision.

I hope you didn't forget that Poland had in the thirties similiar anti-jewish laws as Germany had!

No, I didn't. But we didn't have concentration camps.

So spare us your pro-jewish tears. Jews and their fate had so not been in the mind of the Poles at that time.

But they are in my mind.
Paulina   
27 Jul 2010
History / Warsaw Uprising - The Forgotten Soldiers [117]

You may call that bravery, but most others see that as stupidity!

I think it's better to be "stupid" than evil.

And you paid the price...

Yes.

Well, than you are either in the wrong thread or changed the topic on your own behalf without telling anybody.

This thread is called "Warsaw Uprising - The Forgotten Soldiers" :)

The discussion was about Poland in the build up to the war NOT about what YOU today think!

I can't write what I think today about Poland in the build up to the war?

hahahaha you helped me in making my point, PLANS is what i was talking about his original pre-war plans,

It shows, PennBoy, what was Third Reich.
What about those plans? Why do they matter? I'm not sure what's your point.

my one great grandfather Mikolaj Turczyn was a resistance leader he had 50 men under his command, 5 villages including his in Lublin Voivodeship, Borow, Chwalowice and 3 more where burned down 1,400 everyone men, women, children where murdered, only one family survived they live in Gdansk now.

So your great grandfather shouldn't had fought?
Paulina   
27 Jul 2010
History / Warsaw Uprising - The Forgotten Soldiers [117]

Well...you allied yourself with a monster that killed many more peoples than Hitler ever could.

Bratwurst Boy, nazi ideology was evil in itself.
There is a difference, I think.
Although Hitler and Stalin were both monsters in my opinion.

You had no such qualms with "evilness" then....

I don't think you could call it a choice. Unless you call Katyń massacre and gulags an alliance.
And the Nazis were still worse.

Spare me your moralizing!

Why?

But if it helps to make all that destruction and loss bearable for you don't let me stop you!

Yes, I think it does make it more bearable. Because if we were on the wrong side - it would be unbearable.

Not if you imply the coming holocaust had ANYTHING to do with the decison of the Poles or the Germans or anybody else.

I'm not implying. You wrote to me: "ask yourself what would had been better." And I did that and wrote about it.

Hell, even as the concentration camps and the gas chambers were already known about nobody cared much for the Jews...

Some did. Those who informed Western countries about what was going on.

To use the jewish card is totally modern hindsight argumenting.

Slavs were also sub-humans to the Nazis. So I'm not thinking only about the Jews.

If you ask me Poland was in Hitler's mind only important as gathering place for the german army preparing to fight Stalin.

I also think so.

He even would had sold the claims for Danzig for Polish neutrality and passive support.
He wanted Poland and he got it, so or so...

Yes. But Poland didn't ally with Hitler. I think it was the right choice.
Paulina   
27 Jul 2010
History / Warsaw Uprising - The Forgotten Soldiers [117]

Yeah...Stalins victims will be glad to know that they were starved to death, worked to death, shot, clubbed down, frozen etc...by a not so evil "evil".

BB, Poles didn't follow the Soviet ideology nor wanted they to ally with Stalin (except for the AL and they were in minority) :) I'm sure you know what the Soviets did to AK? And what was the situation then?

It's totally irrelevant...

Morality is irrelevant? What is wrong and what is right? It's not important to you? Are you sure?

Isn't it pathetic that you need to do that in the first place?

:)
If you refused to do something wrong and you would have to pay the price for this, would the thought that you did the right thing console you?

So you really think to rescue some Jews was all the mass destruction and millions of dead non-jewish Poles worth?

Not only. It was about freedom, for example :)

Hitler made it up as he did go along...many Slavs were faithfull allies and even soldiers in the Wehrmacht.
Had Poland been more agreeable Poles were touted as everything else but "sub-humans".

Had been Poland more agreeable there would be no Poland and we would speak German (if we would be alive, that is)...
Had been Poland more agreeable during the partitions we would speak Russian now ;)

I think you are jewish!

Then you're wrong :)

Bratwurst Boy, Russians went through hell during the war as well. The Nazis treated Slavs worse than the people in the West, that's a fact. But I don't think any Russian would say they shouldn't fight with Third Reich.

I think only I wrote about the Jews here. And I think I am aware of pretty much everything that Poles did to Jews, MareGaea. I'm from Kielce, after all.
Paulina   
27 Jul 2010
History / Warsaw Uprising - The Forgotten Soldiers [117]

BB... Western and Stalin's real politik disgust me. The same is with Polish politicians who took a part of Czechoslovakia when they had "the opportunity".

NOTHING to be proud of !

If you say so :)

Moralizing is always repulsive if it is used with hindsight to judge people.

Whom do I judge?

You never had to walk in their boots a minute so stop pretending.

What am I pretending?

You will never know
what you would have felt or done.

Maybe. But I know what I would like to feel and do.

Poland WAS a free country till '39.

And it is free now too :)

Acting like a yapping chihuahua against BOTH, Russia AND Germany did not help them to stay that way.

So in your opinion because the chihuahua was yapping the bigger dogs had the right to tear it in two, put it in a cage, torture it, kill many of it's puppies and so on? You're justifying what Hitler and Stalin did? Because I don't get your point.

Not to mention that Poland also had no qualms to take part in the dismembering of Czechoslovakia as it was still free.

Oh I know, and of THIS I'm not proud at all.

Look at Czechoslovakia...they don't speak German nor are they dead last time I looked.

Because Third Reich was defeated.

BB, the fact that Hitler was good to Germans was no use to Russians or Poles :)

It's a jewish line of argumentation...putting their folks in the forefront...preferring Stalinism and the Russians just because more Jews were in the russian ranks and more part of the killing than of the killed...so excuse me!

What can I do? I'm Polish :) I am not aware of any Jewish roots in my family.
Paulina   
28 Jul 2010
History / Warsaw Uprising - The Forgotten Soldiers [117]

Every other way speaks more of pathetic white washing and clouding it as romantic bravery to make the people who suffered so much feel better, sorry.

What can I say... It's your opinion :) I disagree.

Oh please...do you want to discuss or playing petty games!

No petty games, my questions were serious.

I'm justifying nothing...

It feels like you are...

Do you think Poland staying neutral would had changed that outcome? I don't.

I have no idea. Probably not. But BB... Third Reich attacked Poland. Not the other way round. Why shouldn't Poles defend themselves when their country was attacked?

But Poland would had suffered alot less losses, that's for sure!

Why do you care?

Might be interesting for the judgement about who was "more evil"...

:)
You know, I've seen many discussions between Poles and Russians concerning this issue :) I usually stayed away and observed the discussion.
I'm sure about one thing - nazi ideology was worse than communist ideology. It was inhumane. And 5 years of nazi occupation was far worse than 50 years of Soviet occupation.
Paulina   
28 Jul 2010
History / Warsaw Uprising - The Forgotten Soldiers [117]

Point is Poland could have avoided it!

A bit more common sense and real politik would had gone along way...

I don't think so... As you wrote Hitler needed Poland to place his troops and he wanted to destroy the Soviet Union. So sooner or later he would find a reason to attack Poland. He would see that the West won't do anything about it and he would do it.

Now, let's say Poland would ally with Third Reich and let the Nazi army go through Polish land to attack the Soviet Union. Firstly, that would in the long run mean the loss of independence for Poland. And there would be no Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact and the Soviet Union would have no time to prepare for war. I don't know if it would change anything. Russians claim that it would. And what if Hitler defeated the Soviet Union - the main ally of Great Britain and the US?

It's just speculation, but I really doubt Hitler would be satisfied only with Danzig.

Not for Germans! ;)

Well... We're not talking about Germans now, are we...

Again, Poland could have avoided it, become another Czechoslovakia or even France.

Czechoslovakia was a small country. France? France fought, no? It was occupied, yes?
BB, I doubt anyone could even imagine at that time what a "nazi occupation in Poland" would mean. Really...

Baltics

They were quite fond of the nazi ideology, as I've heard... You know what happened to a big part of Estonian population after the war? You know why there are so many Russians there?

They all survived the Nazis quite well (and many other countries too).

Because they colaborated and weren't Slavic countries :S
Paulina   
28 Jul 2010
History / Warsaw Uprising - The Forgotten Soldiers [117]

As I said...Hitler made it up as he did go along. He had no qualms or problems to be allied with Japan (NO ARYANS!!!) either..

Oh yeah, the Japanese were even worse than the Nazis, as I've heard... Great example...

An allied Poland would had gotten first class treatment too...

BB... For Hitler and the Nazis Slavs were sub-humans and were supposed to be slaves of the German nation. Except for some Polish children who could be introduced into German families and become "germanised".

Poles were higher on "the ladder" than Jews but lower than Western nations, and far lower than Germans, of course.
The French had their resistance and Poles had their resistance. Then why occupation in France and other Western countries was so different than in Poland and in the East? I've watched some documentary (not Polish) and it was said there that Hitler admired Paris, it's architecture and art. Slavs were some primitive savages fot the Nazis and were treated as such.

Of course not, the thought that all that drama and suffering could have been avoided with some smart politics is though stuff. It's easier to believe the history wouldn't had changed one bit...

I think that example of Austria nad Czechoslovakia shows that Hitler wouldn't be satisfied with just a piece of Polish territory if he saw that neither the West nor the Soviet Union would do anything to stop him.

If you generally label Nazism as the worst evil to ever walk the earth you should acknowledge the German experience too...

What do you mean?

Another people who didn't think of the Nazis as the worst evil either??? Can't be...

Yeah, I've heard some veterans there still march in the SS uniforms... (and I've seen photos)

Full stop!

I wouldn't like for my country and my countrymen to colaborate with the Nazis.
Paulina   
28 Jul 2010
History / Warsaw Uprising - The Forgotten Soldiers [117]

Only as enemies!

Or subjects.

No, the clash with Stalin was unavoidable...Europe wasn't big enough of both of them.
Poland was in the middle...enemy of both...so stupid!

:)
Russians say the same :) Only that they argue that Poland should ally with the Soviet Union :)))
And Poles say that it would be like a choice between dżuma (plague) and cholera (cholera) :)
Such a choice is no choice, really...
Even if... I'd go for the Soviet Union...

Well...ask 6 million Poles if they would think like you if they could had chosen between death and collaboration, I'm fairly sure what the outcome would be. You won't like it!

Do you think that those people would like the idea of their compatriots colaborating with people who treated them as animals and killed them without a blink of an eye? Jews, Gypsies and homosexuals didn't have a choice - to colaborate or not to colaborate. They were simply killed.
Paulina   
28 Jul 2010
History / Warsaw Uprising - The Forgotten Soldiers [117]

Well, that's the card you were given...nobody says life is fair or rosy!

And you advocate the worst choice that there could be :)

Oh and in it's time a more powerful Poland had also no qualms to venture into other peoples land..once or two times till Moscow I've heard.

Deflection and being defensive now? ;)
You think that in my opinion it was OK?

That's the european dice game! Sometimes you are on top, sometimes you are rock bottom.

Poles didn't actually intend to wipe out a nation and have other nation as slaves...

They would have liked to stay alive!
As so many people did whose governments were smarter...NOTHING could had been worse than what actually happened!

I can imagine something worse - Polish soldiers hand in hand with the Nazi soldiers.