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Well, well, so it turns out PolAm is no better than Novichok. Another bloodthirsty psycho.

2 confirmed PF cannibals then.


And bad people do bad things. But will there be justice served... I guess we'll see.

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I don't know if it was mentioned already but RuSSia has been fighting Ukraine longer than the Nazis. This war is longer than their Great Patriotic War.

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Ugh, I want this to be over already... It should get warmer next week, apparently... Thank God! ;O


Keep telling that to yourself.

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:D
Yesterday wygrzewałam a cold in bed and I was simply killing time, because I wasn't able to do anything else. 🤒 It's weekend and so I could allow myself to do that. I couldn't sleep much at night and I had to get up early in the morning, so I'll probably be napping during the day (hopefully). It's freezing cold these days in Poland, we didn't have such temperatures in quite some time. 🥶 I didn't realise you're so interested in my daily routine though! 😂


Hopefully it's not that serious and some home remedies will be enough, but thank you for your concern xDDD Maybe trzymaj kciuki so I get well soon and then I'll be writing less on PF ;D 😪🤧


AntV, please... This was no rookie in action, this guy has years of experience plus he was in SWAT. If your SWAT is anything like Polish SWAT then he should have a very high level of training and amazing reflexes plus ability to think and react fast. And he did - just not as he should.


With that level of training that he probably had and all those years of experience he had he should have no problem with stopping firing a gun once the danger is over. That's literally that training that should kick in.


But it's not like he was in one position and the car kept going at him. The car turned. And he aimed at the left window and shot an unarmed woman that posed no threat in the head. That's indefensible. It's not like he was in a small room with a guy throwing himself at him with a knife.

I honestly don't understand how a normal, decent person can defend this. Even if we assume that he was in some kind of killing frenzy out of panic (and it doesn't look like this considering how calm he seems to be) then someone who can't control himself to such an extent, especially despite years of experience, shouldn't be working in law enforcement.

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Some more screenshots for our MAGA "three wise monkeys", but this time with the ICE agent's position highlighted during every shot:

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@Novichok, you're demented.


You mean like the mob storming the Capitol?

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Wow, I'm honestly shocked (in a positive way):

Tucker Carlson Blasts Conservative Response To Renee Good Death:

forbes.com/sites/mikestunson/2026/01/09/tucker-carlson-blasts-conservative-response-to-renee-good-death/

'He compared the conservatives' response to the left-wing reaction to Charlie Kirk's killing, arguing Americans have become desensitized to home-turf violence because American leaders are "normalizing bloodshed."'

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What he's talking about surely applies to the first shot, but what about the second and third one? It can't be said that in case of those shots fired on the left side of the car there was: "a reasonable belief that the subject poses a significant threat of death or serious physical harm." And those are most probably the shots that killed her.


Eh... How is that possible? ICE agents have immunity from... law? o_O So they can do whatever they want, kill people at will and noone can prosecute them and send them to prison? I don't understand...

*googles*

So:

cnn.com/2026/01/08/politics/ice-immunity-jd-vance-minneapolis

"Officers are not entitled to absolute immunity as a matter of law," said Timothy Sini, a former federal prosecutor in New York.
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The federal judge tasked with overseeing the case would have to conduct a two-part analysis to determine whether the official enjoys immunity in the case.
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But the second question is much more complex: it turns on whether the action taken was reasonable based on the totality of the circumstances on the ground. That question would be subject to an extensive inquiry that could involve witness testimony, video evidence and the like."

Wow, that's crazy for me that a regular federal agent has immunity. And scary for an average person, considering how difficult it apparently is to prosecute such an agent o_O

The law enforcement officers in Poland don't have immunity. I think the head of Internal Security Agency (ABW), for example, has some kind of immunity and ABW officers and people working for other special services have certain operational protections, but not at this level. 🤔


It doesn't look like it - it seems he was brushed at best.


Nothing in the videos published suggests that at all.


Yes, starting this conversation with doubting whether I'm "of sound mind" and suggesting that I have "reasoning abilities equivalent to a turnip" is surely very "civil" in your mind :)))

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@Novichok:


Do you know?

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But the US is our most important ally in case of RuSSia's invasion and:


So...

That's a reason for worry. It's better to know what kind of people we're dealing with.

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Founding out if Joker, AntV, PolAm, etc. are "cannibals" or not. What is the state of MAGA mindset. What is the level of their moral depravation and the level of brainwashing. Among others...

During my 7 years of discussing with Russians/RuSSians I've learned quite a lot. Actually, come to think of it - the MAGA remind me of Putinist RuSSians, unfortunately.


OK. So? What am I supposed to do with this information?


No, of course not.

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I do.


Why do you discuss stuff here on PF?


I don't understand your lack of understanding either. Why can you discuss stuff and I can't? 🤨

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Don't lie, Bobko. Novichok is. And did you see that image Poloniusz posted? That's psychopathic.


Well, that's your opinion. I don't know that because they keep pretending as if those two shots on the left side of the car didn't happen. So I don't know if they approve or disapprove of those two shots.


LOL
Those "finer points", as you call them, are absolutely crucial to judging this case.


Wow, have you got infected by MAGA moronism? We keep debating if he shot in self-defence or not and if it was warranted or not and whether he was in front of the car or not is crucial to judge if it was self-defence or not. What are you even talking about? 🤦


Don't speak for others. This is interesting for me and clearly for Feniks too. Maybe for others too. And even if it isn't - you don't have to read it or take part. 🤨

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It's the same in Poland. Polish presidents can pardon any slimy creature they want. For example, Andrzej Duda was pardoning drug dealers lol:

polsatnews.pl/wiadomosc/2024-12-03/kolejne-kontrowersyjne-ulaskawienie-prezydenta-chodzi-o-dilera-narkotykow/


Exactly. If he claims we're wrong then I think we have the right to ask for proof.

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So on which side of the car was the ICE agent when he fired the last two fatal shots in the head of that woman? Can you manage to tell based on the video available? Because the rest of humanity seems to be capable of doing that. 🙄


But you claim that we know nothing, so prove that what I'm posting is not correct. Or don't make claims you can't back up.


Why not? Doesn't Department of Justice Policy On Use Of Force apply in such case?: 🤔

justice.gov/jm/1-16000-department-justice-policy-use-force

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Now that's a good one ;D

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Not quite, I'm a night owl :) 🦉🌜✨


Does anyone have a logical answer based in American law? Because Novichok clearly doesn't have one lol 🙄


Thank you! I have more, but let us give a chance to Joker, captain of MAGA, to show his quality! 😁 xD


According to that fragment I posted they are. So can you actually cite something that refutes what is written in that screenshot I posted?

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Dude, you can't even acknowledge what is visible in the video and in the photos lol


Nothing stops you from lecturing us about American law enforcement and how they should conduct themselves according to the American law :) But you haven't done this so far. So feel free to cite laws, guidelines for the law enforcement and court verdicts - I'm honestly curious.


No :) MAGATs claim here that those women were harassing ICE earlier even though it isn't confirmed, so I can share gossip too :)


So is this not correct?:

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Allegedly she was also told to drive away. I don't know if it's true though.


He wasn't distracted and definitely not standing with his back to the car lol He pulled out the gun already when she was reversing her car. Apparently he didn't even put the phone away after pulling out the gun - that's how "scared" he was.


She was driving slowly enough and she was turning - he could easily move away if he didn't pull out the gun and aim at her.


Why?

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@Novichok, if all the PF morons are in Europe and Americans are correct then why none of you managed to give even one logical argument why the second and third shots where justified?

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It looks like that I was right after all - Daily Mail talked to that ICE agent's neighbours and they said he's a "hardcore MAGA supporter:"

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15449879/federal-agents-guns-swarm-jonathan-ross-home-hiding-minneapolis.html

"Another neighbor told the Daily Mail that until recently Ross had been flying pro-Trump flags and a 'Don't Tread On Me' Gadsden Flag that is an emblem of the Make America Great Again movement."


That's so unbiased, moderate, analytical, tentative and non-emotional though! ;D


And when you see the car moving you don't stand there, you move.


Not according to American law.

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Luckily I have no idea what you're alluding to.


Jon357 once did something similar and then AI has shown me in a very positive light ;D You can prompt AI to spit out anything you want :) I do like that "Moral Framing: Absolutist" though :D

Now how about providing arguments for the ICE agent shooting that woman twice in the head when he was out of danger, Mr "Tentatively Analytical"? lol

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If you say so :)))


Yes, that's you to a tee.


You have a long history of writing lies about people on this forum and whitewashing yourself.


Then you're a sociopath. And an idiot.

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That's not a "meltdown". I'm writing in bold and with big, big letters lol because it's clear to me now that one has to write to you like to retarded children.


The whole world has access to evidence thanks to multiple videos and photos of the car. We don't live in the Stone Age.🤦


The facts are that the ICE agent shot that woman twice in the head when he was already out of danger. That's what the video shows. That's also what photos of the car corroborate. Do you deny this?


If you and other MAGA men can defend that ICE agent without the investigation being concluded then why can't I state what is visible in the video and in the photos of the car??

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No, my reasoning is:

He shouldn't shoot her TWICE in the head through the SIDE window, because he was on the left side of the car already and he was OUT OF ANY DANGER.

So he didn't have to kill her. There was simply no reason for this.


No. Firstly, attributing "quibbling" to women only. Secondly, making such general jabs at women when you're disagreeing with a woman. That's what men prejudiced against women tend to do (you included).


From what I know the police officer in the US can't justify using lethal force and claim that the car was used as a "weapon" if he positioned himself in front of the car himself and didn't move away even though he could. They aren't supposed to block cars with their own bodies.

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Pity.


Anyone defending this murder is a psycho.


Don't pretend that you're more stupid than you are.


It makes more sense to conclude that someone is a misogynist based on his misogynistic comments than concluding that I'm "old, jealous, and ugly" based on the fact that you don't like my comments lol 🤦