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I would prefer to eat a dinner at your house in order to check if your wife is real/OK lol I conversed with you enough already, so I'd have some serious questions for her. Of course, I'd have some serious questions for you too, but I doubt you'd answer them honestly or at all.


Now that's what I call "a joke" ;D You literally made me laugh out loud. 😂😂😂🤦


Of course not, just like the nonsense that you posted about homosexuals in this thread isn't based on anything but your prejudices :)))


Just like that article about the history of tattoos in Europe that I posted recently? :) I myself found it to be very interesting and educational. 🤔


Research, data, statistics. You haven't posted any.

For example, earlier on this thread I wrote that according to research majority of Polish priests don't follow celibacy. Here's the link:

natemat.pl/25743,60-proc-ksiezy-jest-w-zwiazkach-z-kobietami-prof-baniak-autor-badania-prawdziwa-skala-jest-jeszcze-wieksza

You see? This is how it works in a discussion among normal adults. You make a claim, you provide a link.

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I think someone who's been as long as you on PF knows the answer to this question - probably even those who dislike me do.

What is going on with you, maf?


No, it won't. It does matter to me though if you respect me enough to provide sources for your claims when I'm asking you for it, because this is what I'm always trying to do myself when I'm discussing with others. So it's actually fair of me to expect that from people I'm discussing with.


Sorry, but we women have enough of doing work for lazy men :))) You make the claim, you provide the proof - that's the most basic rule. I'm not going to waste my time and do your job for you. Until then I'm just going to assume you're talking out of your ass.


And that's one of the reasons I'm not writing on regular basis on PF anymore. It takes too much time for me. It's quick and easy for trolls and psychos here to spout nonsense and lies, but in order to refute all their crap I have to do research, usually read multiple sources, choose the most credible and reliable ones and often make some summary and write the more important stuff in bold, because I know they most probably won't read what's in the link and pretend they "missed" my comments, so I have to throw it in their faces.

And unlike some of them and mafketis I'm writing in a foreign lanuague which means checking spelling and making sure there are no serious mistakes in my posts.

So, no, considering all the work I've been doing on this forum and how much time I wasted here I'm not going to do other people's job on here on principle. No f*cking way.

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Life in prison with no parole would be enough in my opinion.


Good to know o_O


Thank you for the answer. Some sanity and empathy coming from a Trumpist at last.

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Well then, such moronic and unhinged response of yours deserves an equally moronic and unhinged answer to your questions from me :):

There are 1542 genders.

Yes, every man can get pregnant - they always could. They have the ability to birth children through their buttholes. But since a lot of men tend to be sh1tty :) fathers God in his wisdom decided to make them forget they can get pregnant to spare children the unsettling realisation that they were birthed by a$$holes :)))))


Hating women and making up lies about them isn't a "worldview". And Novichok isn't just "different", he's a lying sociopath, or maybe even a psychopath.

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Next time read the whole discussion then hopefully you will understand better what is being written and why.


So you think abortion should be legal in case of rape, correct?


But we're discussing Charlie Kirk's views. And he said that he would force his daughter to give birth to a rapist's baby even if she was only 10 years old.


Imho there are nutcases both on the right and the left side of the political spectrum and I'm not interested in your generalising rants about the left.

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My God, are you dumb or something?
It's a hypothetical scenario that we're discussing because of what Charlie Kirk said. Are you paying any attention at all to what we've been writing here??


Meaning? What are your views exactly?


No, I am not. Not that I think there's anything wrong in having left-wing views, it's just those are not mine. And, btw, my impression is that in some aspects left-wingers are often actually more Christian than right-wingers.

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@Alien, because we kick ass :))))

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@Lenka, it looks like Feniks has a special power of summoning other women :D ✨

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And I feel for your daughter if you have one.

I care more about children who are already alive and sentient.


I don't care, because it's a rapist's DNA in the body of my 10-year-old daughter, you sick f*ck. My own 10-year-old daughter would be more important to me than a cluster of cells made by a rapist. Any normal parent would feel the same way the way I do - and the polls in my country reflect that.


I'm not "left" and we're not talking about destroying cities or mass immigration (which I don't support anyway), but about forcing your 10-year-old child to carry on with pregnancy and deliver a baby.

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By "affect" I mean their psychological health and the resulting longterm outcomes that you mentioned. I'm asking because I had a classmate at highschool who lost both of her parents and she had to be on antidepressants all the time. She complained that they made her sleepy and "slow" (she meant thinking, learning). Of course, it's not the same as losing one parent, but still...

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How is that "disingenous"? You made a claim and I'm asking you to prove it with links (research).


Then provide link to that data.


And what about children of mothers who aren't single "by choice or fecklessness" or due to becoming a widow, but due to their fathers dumping their family?


I'm guessing the same can be said about children from "whole", but pathological/dysfunctional families. I'm afraid that if priests were to be chosen only from perfect families the list of candidates who'd be allowed would grow very thin ;) There aren't many willing already as it is...

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Why "again"? Could you explain?

And, no, I'm just making fun of Ironside's views.


The death of a parent doesn't affect kids in any way? Really? Links?


Like becoming priests who don't follow celibacy? ;D


Yup.

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And from this link - this is what Kirk said:

"What makes the West great is that we do good after evil, not evil after evil."

This is coming from a man who thought that executions should be public, televised and that kids should watch it as a form of "initiation."


No, it wasn't. Kirk was asked about a scenario if this happened to his own daughter and he answered directly to that question.


But it does happen. And Kirk would force this upon her own daughter. That's enough for me to know anything I need to know about him as a human being.

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Why are you attacking me, maf? Because I don't like what Kirk said? I did google the whole fragment, but it didn't come up in my google search. I always google first.


Don't be childish. The fact that views are "different" doesn't mean they aren't evil, inhumane or sick and that they should be tolerated. There are people holding views that it should be legal for adults to f*ck 5-year-olds. There are men supporting marrying 9-year-olds, because a "holy book" says it's OK.


No, of course I wouldn't tell a kid who just lost her father that she will be better off without her father. That's because I have... you know... empathy. I am saying it to you on an internet forum - that this is my guess.


No, that's pretty realistic, unfortunately, and coming from my personal experience.

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I didn't ignore the quotation marks, I asked you if that quote was by Kirk.


Nazis had "different" views too. I'm afraid I'm not able to "tolerate" or stomach their views either. They can kindly go f*ck themselves.


I've read the whole thing from your link and I don't understand why you think the context helps Kirk in any way. I stand by my previous opinion that empathy-deprived sociopaths like this who don't love their kids don't deserve to have daughters (and I'd rather they didn't procreate at all). My guess is also that his daughter will be better off without him in the long run.

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The pro-life world is dangerously retarded then. It's scary that people who are this stupid (or ignorant?) are allowed to vote. 😳

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@mafketis, what "context" did Feniks leave out? What you quoted was said by Kirk or what?


Are we still talking here about a 10-year-old???


First and foremost a 10-year-old child shouldn't be forced to be a "mother" and be subjected to pregnancy and delivering a child (cesarean section is a serious surgery) and ANY risk connected to pregnancy and giving birth, especially that there is no other way for a 10-year-old to get pregnant than due to rape.

🤮


Then a lot of "anti-abortion rights people" are sick f*cks. What's your point again?

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And that makes it "reasonable" how?? Try again. 🤨

That statement alone would make me wish him to drop dead. No, I wouldn't kill him and wouldn't call for killing him, but forgive me if I'm not shedding any tears. 🥲 The less messed up people like him on this planet the better - that's my honest opinion and I won't change it.


First and foremost that creep didn't deserve to be a father. 🤮


No, that depends on whether you're a normal human being with empathy or not.

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*I was wondering

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You mean like in case of John Paul II?? :D 😁😂


Well, there's a risk for all kinds of professions, especially those where people work with children and teens (teachers, coaches, etc.) even though people in those professions are allowed to have sex. I think that the problem with clergy is that the Catholic Church is a dysfunctional, morally corrupt institution that has been sweeping such problems under the rug for years and protecting the sexual predators (by moving them from parish to parish instead of reporting them to the police) and hence the priesthood attracted such type of men, because they know they will be able to get away with a lot. 🤔

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Hey, I'm just stating facts :) 💁😁


Such men usually get married and have kids instead of putting on black dresses and swearing an oath to God to have no sex ;D 😁💁


You're no authority for me though, so your opinion about me is worthless to me :) *shrugs*


No, you're talking about yourself. So far you haven't provided any proof for your claims - you're just talking out of your a$$.

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@Joker, awww, is having a life and hobbies a FOREIGN concept to you? :) You should snitch to ICE on it, if it scares you so much, haha ;D 😂😂😂


I already posted my question for you on this thread - make some effort for a change and go and find it. 🙄


Yeah, that's another thing he has in common with johnny_reb :)


Yes, I wondering about her, I hope everything is OK with her.


Hahaha :D

Well, that would be definitely what this forum deserves! :))) That or napalm lol

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It's no more of a risk than letting men in general to become priests. There's always a risk that it will turn out that he's a rapist paedophile/ephebophile, a murderous sociopath, an alcoholic, a drug addict, a sex addict, etc.


No, I don't lol 🤦


That's because you're a stupid sexist.


Yes, please elaborate, because as often - you make no sense.


Yes, I would be able.

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It's not his "humour" that is the problem, but the fact that he's been trolling me on regular basis lately. Trolling isn't "banter" and enjoying stirring negative emotions in people is a malignant trait. Torq is reminding me more and more of johnny_reb in this regard, unfortunately.

Let us take the discussion about tattoos, for example. Feniks, are you able to tell what are Torq's real views on tattoos at this point?


Of course, but why would I waste my time on trolls? I've kicked enough butts during my time on this forum and I think I can retire already lol Nowadays I prefer to devote my free time to something more productive and pleasant like practicing art, for example. Maybe I'll be coming back to PF from time to time to post about art and stuff like that, as long as I'll be able to ignore all the trolls and psychos. Perhaps I'll have to put half of the active male PF members on my ignore list in order not to get tempted to kick some butts lol


Fortunately I don't need to :))) At this point the only good enough reason for me to devote any of my time to PF at all are people like you and that's pretty much it.


It looks like you don't have both of those though. Why would I answer your questions if you and Joker didn't answer mine yet? Are you two planning to do that in this century? lol

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And that's all I needed to know. Thanks for confirming that there's something wrong with you. Maybe you should take it up with your therapist (if she even exists and she isn't one of your "jokes").


That's what a bully or a narcissistic sociopath would say. I love it when men are telling on themselves :)))


It's time to end this then and put you on my ignore list. Troll someone else, you messed up a$$hole.


Yes, those look cool :)

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Says who? You can have both.


Actually I've been on PF long enough to experience serious discussions on this forum, so I'm calling out your bullsh1t.


Oh, so now I "bore" you, because I'm calling you out for trolling me? lol Your trolling bores me too, so how about you don't do that to me ever again?

@Joker, do you think Victorian ladies and Churchill's mother had no class??? :D
@Novichok, did tattoos made Victorian ladies look "tough" or "slutty"? ;D

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No, it isn't. There isn't anything hypocritical about my comment. You seem to have a problem with logic yourself (just like many other right-wing men from what I've noticed :)).


That was exactly your point, liar:

"Now you have a homosexual on the rampage, and you have a problem with him because he became a priest. Tsk tsk."


And men like you call feminists "men-haters" while being women-hating morons themselves. 🤦


Any proof for that?

According to research majority of Polish priests don't follow celibacy. Are all of them homosexuals? :)))


I'm afraid Ironside is full of sh1t :) and we're just wasting our time.

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What do you mean by "our civilization"? Here you have a record of a patchy/complicated (and probably surprising to many) history of tattoos in Europe:

cloakanddaggerlondon.co.uk/slaves-royalty-a-brief-history-of-european-tattoos/

From Roman soldiers getting impressed by Celtic tattoos, calling Picts (Scotland) "Pictii," which is Latin for the "Painted Ones", tattoos of the Crusaders identifying them as Christians so they could be assured of a proper burial if they were killed in battle, then tattoos falling out of favour, then getting back into favour thanks to sailors impressed by Tahitian tattoos and even Victorian ladies having "tattoo parties" (I think I was most surprised by this one :D):

"Most of these women saw tattooing as not just fashionable but as a "special secret" of their feminine power, as they mostly chose to have their tattoos placed on areas of the body that were hidden while they were clothed."

...and so on until our times when tattoos are being more and more normalized.

Btw, did you know that Winston Churchill and his mother had tattoos?? :)


That depends on the tattoo. There are some ugly tattoos out there lol

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Nope, but the Polish Catholic Church clearly reeks of hypocrisy and what it would consider "sinfulness" :)))


Again - nope. I don't have a problem with him being a homosexual, but with him breaking his vows, apparently being a drug addict and trying to manipulate another person to have unprotected sex. That's not the type of a person that is fitting to lecture others on morality.


LOL
As if heterosexual priests weren't doing the same things! :D


Yes, I agree - no men should be allowed as priests. Only women :)))))


Of course I do make sense. You just made wrong assumptions about my comment. God knows why, considering Lenka managed to understand it correctly.

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A priest who's involved in the death of a 21-year-old man in Sosnowiec is still meeting with men for sex accompanied with drugs (with no condoms too - "God will protect him", he claims 😂🤦) - he got arrested for illegal possession of drugs:

kryminalne.o2.pl/informacje/umowila-sie-z-ksiedzem-na-intymne-spotkanie-nieoczekiwany-zwrot-akcji-7212821853559744a

Polska Kościołem stoi... ;D



I wonder if they move him to another parish... Could that be called sex tourism then? ;D