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Yes, it looks like the childlike creature wants to get that ball from the bigger creature (which the bigger one is hiding behind its back).

@AntV, my first impression when I looked at this painting was "What a misogynist painting..." I checked museum's internet site and it looks like I was right with my first impression - from the description:

"In Zier's allegorical depiction her feminity itself and her sensuality is associated with sin, and in this biblical context at that - the greatest sin and with the most tragic consequences."

Why would you post such a painting? You don't like women? 🤔

As opposed to Zier's misogynist view of a woman I think this is the real depiction of Eve, since in Hebrew the name "Eve" (Havah) means "life giver" and she is the mother of all humankind:

"Multitasking" by Ricardo Mujica (101.6 x 76.2 cms/40 x 30 ins, oil painting) depicts his wife and daughter:

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@Novichok, I'm just reporting what's happening, calm down ;D 🤦

(Btw, whoever tried to stop me from writing by f*cking with my browser - you failed, as you can see ;D)

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An emergency session of the UN Security Council for the first time in history requested by Poland is taking place right now:

theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/11/poland-says-un-will-hold-emergency-meeting-after-russian-drone-incursions

You can watch it live:

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@jon357, yup.

I wouldn't be surprised if there were some MAGA maniacs willing to believe him though, but I'm guessing those would have to be some severe headcases like Novichok probably.


Also, what about the photos of the damage inside the house? "Storm" did that too, Velund? What is your "search by image" telling you about those photos? :D:

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I don't know what you're talking about - I used the option "Szukaj z obiektywem Google" and it found no such thing. 🤨


I gave you a video with interviews with people living in Wyryki (with their names and surnames given, including the headmaster of the local school) and they are saying that they heard a loud bang/explosion that woke up everyone in the morning and there's no word of the house being damaged by any storm, you pathetic moron ;D


I've seen those videos and there were no bodies "moving" lol

You know what, Velund, I'm starting to think you don't believe the bullsh1t you're spewing. You must be repeating those lies on purpose, because I'm not buying that you're that stupid.


So?

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And here you have again an interview with the owner of the house - he's saying that the fake info is bullsh1t and that there has been no storm in Wyryki for the last three months:

wiadomosci.wp.pl/dron-zniszczyl-mu-dom-rozprawia-sie-z-teoriami-spiskowymi-7199403174337152a

I'd like to stress that the investigation is ongoing and they're not sure yet what hit the house - whether it was a drone, remains of a drone or fragments of the missile from the fighter jet and if the drone has been shot down at all.

In the article there's also an interview with a nature's photographer Tomasz Kawiak who was taking photos of deer rut early in the morning between Korolówka and Wyryki and he saw the F-16 firing at the drone. He didn't see if the missile hit the drone, because he decided to take cover since he was wearing military camouflage and he was afraid that the pilot will think he's the drone operator lol

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@Velund, and here you have interviews with people living in Wyryki - a woman living 100 metres from that house said that she heard a bang/explosion in the morning so loud that she thought it was her house falling down and another woman is saying that at first she thought there was a gas explosion, so clearly nothing to do with any storm from two months ago ;D:



RuSSian propaganda/disinformation is so dumb and pathetic ;D

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Something like this can be easily photoshoped ;D
Such news articles don't exist on the Polish internet:

lublin.se.pl/dom-we-wsi-wyryki-zniszczony-przez-burze-a-nie-drona-bzdura-aa-MJ5o-vEsS-7iXp.html

x.com/LachowskiMateus/status/1966432831896219834

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I don't have the time right now to read all the comments, but I just have to react to this ;D:


My God... Yes, there are no comments indeed, if you prefer to believe one random comment on the internet that could be written by anyone (including a RuSSian/paid troll) over the owners of the house ;D What an idiot... 🤦

wiadomosci.wp.pl/to-w-ich-dom-uderzyly-szczatki-drona-przez-okno-patrze-leci-dach-7198751245212576a

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Btw, big thanks to our allies for support, especially to the Dutch pilots, because it was mainly the Dutch F-35 that shot down the drones! 🙏 🇱🇺 ❤️


"Nobody" is a bold statement lol I've seen people making all kinds of claims already.


Any links?
I'm curious about the technical aspect of it, how it's done and what is possible and what isn't in these types of operations. 🤔


It may be not illogical by the standards of someone like Putin. Remember how he brought his dog to the meeting with Merkel even though it was common knowledge she's afraid of dogs?


Well, yeah, that's the problem - RuSSians lie like they breathe...

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So this is why I got an SMS with a drone alert yesterday - three drones were found also in my region :(((:

echodnia.eu/swietokrzyskie/rosyjskie-drony-nad-polska-trzy-w-regionie-jest-alert-rcb-dla-swietokrzyskiego-wojewoda-zwolal-sztab-relacja-na-biezaco/ar/c1p2-27954275

kielce.tvp.pl/88835838/drony-spadly-w-wielu-miejscach-polski-jeden-zniszczyl-budynek-inny-wyladowal-90-kilometrow-od-kielc-zdjecia


Here's an informative, calm and balanced video by Tomasz Rożek, a scientist and publicist, concerning those drones:

"What kind of drones flew into Poland?:"



He's actually saying that it can't be ruled out completely that the drones flying in wasn't intentional (so that would explain why Belarus warned Poland about them). It also is likely though that RuSSia was testing Polish and NATO defences. He said that according to experts that he's following it is very unlikely that those drones were sent by Ukraine, because Ukraine doesn't produce those drones and even if they decided to "fake manufacture" them it would be very risky considering how closely supervised the skies are in this conflict and how politically volatile it would be if it turned out they were sent by Ukraine.

He didn't mention the possibility of those drones being "taken over" by Ukrainians. Did any other experts discuss it? How is it done and how likely it is that around 20 drones would be hacked at the same time, including those flying in from the territory of Belarus? Have there been cases of Ukrainian army actually taking control of RuSSian drones and flying them somewhere else? 🤔

Btw, the first response from RuSSia regarding those drones was such:

wiadomosci.onet.pl/swiat/rosyjskie-drony-nad-polska-jest-pierwsza-reakcja-kremla/n19zjyf

RuSSian Ministry of Defence just said that "attacking Poland wasn't in their plans" and that the drones that they used for attacking Ukraine have only a range of 700 km. But even if that was their range such drones can still reach central Poland, so... lol 🙄


Yup, true... Let us treat it as a lesson for the future.

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The US with Trump at the helm? ;D Do you live in some alternate universe?? 🤦😂


Sometimes I really like you ;D

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Maybe, who knows, but that's not what I'm talking about... ;D For example, an American comedian posted about what happened in Poland at night with some dark humour and other comments were also like "why it's always Poland "and "it's September too" (like WW2) and so on. Some people waking up to the news this morning thinking that RuSSia attacked Poland and panicking and Poles having to explain to them that drones just flew in and noone died :P


Yeah, I've seen such comments too. Some claim that those are RuSSian bots on the other hand, so....yeah... ;D The internet these days... *sigh*


We'll see, we'll see.


Btw, that's the SMS I got today in the morning (we usually get such alerts about storms and not hostile drones, obviously):

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Tusk said that many of those drones came from Belarus, so it seems doubtful. But we can all just wait for the results of the investigation.


Yeah, I agree. Seems very doubtful he would do it on his own. It's not really Belarus' war anyway, RuSSia dragged it into it after all, so why Lukashenko would do that...

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@Torq, it's kind of surreal, isn't it...

Btw, English speaking social media is in a state of panic as if WW3 was about to start ;D and Poles are like:

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I wrote already long ago that air defence should be Poland's priority for the time being and not all those tanks, etc. But I remember Torq telling me we should buy even more choppers. 🙄


They started some time ago already. But this stuff takes time, from what I've read. That's where allies can come in handy for the time being.

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The damaged house in Wyryki belongs to an older couple and they were sleeping upstairs after all, but, luckily, they got up earlier than usual in the morning and went downstairs. Less than an hour later a fighter jet shot down the drone and the debris hit their house while the man was watching news on TV about drones flying into Poland:

wiadomosci.wp.pl/to-w-ich-dom-uderzyly-szczatki-drona-przez-okno-patrze-leci-dach-7198751245212576a

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And what do we have allies for? Aren't we the NATO's Eastern Flank now?? Hello???


I'm not opposed to the idea itself ;D but surely you realise how unrealistic it is (far more than what I suggest at this point). 🙄

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Yes, that's why I linked it in response to what you wrote. Did you read it?


Not due to range though. We simply have very few of them. That's why in my earlier comment I wrote: "Poland using its/allied air defences."


Yes, and so Polish pilots would simply have to be very careful too :)))


So what? They can't even beat Ukraine.


How is defending Polish airspace a "rash decision"? Shooting down missiles while they're still over Ukraine was proposed by serious politicians and generals. Earlier maybe it wasn't the time for that, but it is now.

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tech.wp.pl/polskie-patrioty-ochronia-ukraine-ekspert-wydaje-sie-sceptyczny,7047552255237056a


You wrote yourself that we're not in a conflict.


I think their focus is right now the war in Ukraine - either winning it or getting out of it as much as possible. I doubt that for the time being they're ready, willing and able to make war with the entire NATO. 🤔


Well, of course it does, it's RuSSia... lol But then they won't mind if we shoot down those "non-RuSSian" drones over Ukraine, will they now! :D 😂

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No, I meant air defences, not airplanes.


Do they though? I only ever hear about RuSSian fighter jets entering NATO air space "by accident" all the time.


Why a full-blown war? Turkey, a NATO country, shot down a RuSSian fighter jet when it violated the country's airspace. Has any war started because of that? Nope. That's why I wrote what I wrote. That's how you deal with RuSSia. That's their language - clearly the only language they understand.

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And if that isn't enough and one Polish citizen will die or gets injured due to RuSSian missiles or drones "venturing" into Polish air space NATO countries should start opening fire at any RuSSian fighter jets "accidentally" entering NATO air space. Fighter jets are more expensive than drones and you need well trained pilots for them so I imagine RuSSians would suddenly be much, much more careful about not entering NATO air space "by accident" 😁

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Yeah, that will teach them... ;D That should be done long ago...


I think that was done already. The people left are probably those that deserve to stay. And those are not RuSSian oligarchs, so I don't see why Kremlin would care.

I think the bare minimum would be Poland using its/allied air defences to shoot down RuSSian missiles and drones already over Ukraine before they enter Polish territory. Since RuSSia decided to f*ck around in the Polish air space to such an extent there's really no other choice. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.🖕

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@jon357, I'm guessing the only reason why noone got hurt was because it was a living room and noone was sleeping at night there. The family can't go back to that house now though.

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I think a time has come for a stronger reaction. This is not a joking matter anymore or an "accident". If there's no reaction that will hurt RuSSia enough for this, RuSSia will escalate this, even if "just" to destabilise Poland or to make NATO look weak and people will start getting killed in Poland.

"Strongly condemning" and sending diplomatic notes of protest to RuSSia lol 🤦 won't suffice anymore.

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Thanks, BB... It hit too close to home to my liking, so to speak... 😡

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The remains of one of the drones were found near my region. So the next time it could happen to my grandma's house or that of my other family members living in the countryside, I guess... My grandma could have not survived such damage like the one that happened to that house in Wyryki :( Thank God noone got killed or injured:

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News / Abortion still under control in Poland - part 2 [383]

@Ironside, why would I do that? Are you sick in the head? Or is this something you like imagining yourself? If that's the case then don't project your sick fantasies on me. 🤮

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OMG, my thoughts exactly, Feniks! I've noticed this too! I think for women he lacks the same level of empathy/understanding that he has for men... It's as if he doesn't treat women like 100% human beings or something. 🤨


Which Catholic tradition are you talking about? Do you even know what you're talking about?

The theologians of the early Church (early Christians) were pretty anti-killing of any sort. Some were so pacifist that they were not only against the death penalty, but also against Christians serving in the military or even killing someone in self-defence. Hippolytus of Rome, one of the most important second-third centuries Christian theologians, urged priests to deny baptism to any soldier whatsoever. "A military man in authority must not execute men. If he is ordered, he must not carry it out" ("Apostolic Tradition," 16.9).

Those who were in favour of death penalty were of an opinion that it should be used as rarely as possible, in grave instances, if there's no other way and no chance for moral improvement in the perpetrator.

From what I've read that changed after the 4th century after the integration of the Church with the Roman state. So are you following a Christian tradition or a Roman tradition?

To sum up, it looks to me that The Second Vatican Council is more in line with the actual teachings/mindset of the early Church which were obviously directly based on the actual teachings of Christ. You know, those teachings that Christians are supposed to follow? 🙄

So, no, John Paul II and other bishops weren't influnced by "masons, protestants, leftards and other retards, and shifted its position to anti death penalty." From what I can see they were influnced by teachings of the early Christians (and that of Jesus himself, obviously).


No, I don't. I don't know if you're that stupid or intentionally disingenuous and manipulative. I talked about "actual teachings of Christ" in regard to John Paul's stance on death penalty.


I don't have to imagine it, you idiot. You can read articles and watch documentaries about it on TV and on YouTube. It's all real and happening in this world, unfortunately.

That's it for now. I have some more comments/responses, thoughts and observations (and more knowledge to share 🧐), but I'm not going to spend my whole weekend on this. So I'll probably get back to it some other time.

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What about women and girls who were abducted by the rapists and raped for days and they did get pregnant?


What??