Feedback / Would you favour a free and open PF where people could post under their real names? [55]


What makes you say that? This forum is open to anyone with an internet connection.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]

Here's the graph from the UK Office of National Statistics:



So, that's up 27% on the previous year to a total of 6,696 for all gun crimes in a country with a population of 65,648,000.

The combined population of the states of Texas, Florida, Tennessee, Ohio and West Virginia is 65,634,284. In 2016, in these five states, there were 2,768 homicides, 35,112 robberies and 56,016 aggravated assaults all involving firearms. Giving a total of 93,896 - 1402% higher.

The Polish people are free to make their own minds up about which style of gun legislation they prefer.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


Actually, since gun related crime is well over a 1000% higher in the U.S. it seems that it must be very much harder for U.K. criminals to acquire a gun.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]

So what do you think it is that makes them more expensive?

Correctly printing 3D parts and assembling them is much harder than simply going into a shop and buying one.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


I've looked at your links and I'm not at all convinced.

Imagine I'm a budding U.K. criminal and I want an AR-15. That Ghost Gunner 2 CNC mill is $1675, it weighs about 23kg so that's going to cost at least several hundred more to ship from the US*. I also need the 80% blank it's designed to machine, another $75. So that's already about twice the Walmart price. Let's assume that I have no problems actually setting it up and milling my part correctly. I now have a AR-15 lower receiver. Yay. So where am I going get the upper receiver, the stock, the trigger, the magazine and all the other parts from? These parts can't just be bought in the U.K. like they can in the US. I can't make them on my shiny new mill, it's not designed for it and there aren't any programs. The only option would be the black market for which I'd need connections and a lot more money...

You think that this is 'not at all' more difficult than just driving to Walmart? Seriously?

*This is assuming that you can even get the company that make it to ship it to Europe and you can get it through both US and U.K. customs, which I think is unlikely.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


Any machined part can be made by people with the right skills and equipment. However, the Ghost Gunner CNC mill from your link would not be capable of making all of those parts.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


If that's the case then perhaps you should have provided links to those instead. A quick look didn't reveal any AR-15s with 3D printed upper receivers/bolts/bolt carriers or barrels that I could see.

Homes doesn't require the same precision or tight tolerances as a gun, most of them are, after all, made of bricks and mortar.

Off-Topic / American Jew Voice in Poland [93]


Don McLean, surely?