History / How different would WW2 turned out if Poland accepted Hitler's offer [219]


Poland was never offered an option of joining Germany so the basis of your entire thread is pointless.


Probably yes, Germans had specific plans concerning Poles, these plans included gassing some 20 milion people, germanising 2-3 milion more and resettling the rest to Syberia. The few milion survivors would be used as human cattle/slave labor. If Germany won the war there was nothing to guarantee it would honor any sort of agreement.


No it would not. Poland added 1.5 milion soldiers to the mix but their armament was subpar, Poles would make a difference in the sense that they would prolong the war by perhaps half a year, maybe a year but Russia would still conquer central and eastern Europe.


Giving Poland a much more significant wartime credit would be a start. France which was much more exposed than Britain offered Poland a significant credit which resulted in among other things 100 extra tanks for Poland.

Its worth to note that both France and England were late to grant Poland any credit, that alone revealed their intentions to use Poland as a time-buying scapegoat. Abbeville simply confirmed that.

History / How different would WW2 turned out if Poland accepted Hitler's offer [219]


Yes they were, France could mobilise and equip a 2 milion strong force, Britain could muster a 100 thousand mobile army, what you mean is that neither France nor England mobilised for war in time but thats again due to their willingness to sacrifice Poland.


That much is true, neither France nor UK were willing to honor the letter of their agreement with Poland and limited themselves to token aid, both financial and military.


No, Poland actually went through WWI much worse than French and English, Poland was the frontline of the german-russian war and then russian-polish war, the combined military and civilian losses mount to around a milion people and the loss of 90% of its economy. That means that Poland lost about as much as France (France lost approximately 1.5 milion but was larger) and its economic losses were several times bigger and yet Poles were both ready and willing to fight.


After the war Poland was occupied by over a milion russian troops and could not decide about anything by itself.


See above. They were made to refuse by Russians, there's even specific letters from Moscow which underline that "there is no need nor requirement for the capitalist aid".


So are you a biased idiot or just a troll? Poland ruled as a sole power of central and eastern Europe for over 200 years but it doesnt have a history of good governance?


Approximately a milion, out of more than 30 milion people, that means that approximately 3% of Poles believed in communism, hardly a significant number. Poland was communist because it was sold, betrayed and forgotten by the western allies and then occupied by Russia, that's a fact.