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Merged: Why are Polish so offended by nudity?

Swearing and nudity is almost always censored on Polish TV. But i am wondering why ? Why is sunbathing topless so taboo and illegal in Poland ?

"Two Polish women have caused uproar in the deeply conservative and Catholic country [of Poland] by daring to sunbathe topless. Model Dorota Krzysztofek, 28, and her 'accomplice', known only as Anna K, 26, were today officially reprimanded in court for baring their breasts on a beach. In May, police officers fined Miss Krzystofek and her friend for sunbathing topless on a public beach in Szczecin. The women went to court after they failed to pay a fine of 150 zlotys (£33)."

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1083965/Storm-D-Cup-Polish-women-court-sunbathing-topless.html

Here is another perfect example. This non-sexual video of topless German sledders was censored by Polish media TVN24. I guess Poles are offended by the sight of a nipples ??? Watch the video.

tvn24.pl/2414000,0,0,1,1,na-majtki-w-samych-majtkach-i-butach,wideo.html

Please explain. Thanks.

On the contrary, it is legal for women to go topless anywhere in America and no one complains. Here are some videos.

Here is a video of a woman walking topless in New York City in front of former President Bill Clinton. Nobody cares. But in Poland a topless girl in the city would be arrested.

youtube.com/watch?v=Wg_YJpv5Tks&feature=channel_video_title

Here is another video of topless girls in New York City, USA

youtube.com/watch?v=HAHiq-Lxs30&feature=related

Here is a video of topless women at a county fair in Oregon, USA

youtube.com/watch?v=EJnyzit4r_o

Here is a video of topless women at a festival in North Carolina, USA

youtube.com/watch?v=Ny_OsgXJaW8&feature=related

When will Poland leave it's puritan roots and allow topless girls in public like USA ?

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Yes i take it very seriously and apparently so do a 1 million women planning to march topless to Washington DC on August 21st organized by the GoTopless movement.

visit gotopless.org for more info.

I dont despise Poland. I just hate religion and how narrow minded many Poles are. Poland is a breeding ground for religious extremists in Europe. Goodthing the European Human Rights Court have prevented right-wing Polish politicians from spreading their homophobic religious agenda.

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That proves how stupid you are. Wikipedia is not a reliable source for information. The content is often outdated and incorrect.

It's legal for women to walk topless in ANY city in America (protected under the First Amendment). A woman who is "fined" by the police is entitled to sue the police department for millions of dollars (as in the case of Phoenix Feeley). Look her up.

The GoTopless Movement is a U.S. based organization that encourages thousands of women to go topless each year in the U.S. They are planning to have 1 million women march topless to Washington D.C. on August 21st 2012 (Women's Day).

I know you Poles are jealous that you dont have this movement in Poland (where topless sunbathing is still illegal) but relax already. Watch all the videos above that i posted (especially the Jim Jone's one). The topless girls in his music video have some fine ass nipples :-))

skip to 00.50 seconds of the video

vodpod.com/watch/5101295-new-video-jim-jones-summer-time

Or we can talk about why this non-sexual video of German Topless sledders was censored by the Polish Network TVN24. Are Poles that insensitive to seeing nipples??? Why are the nipples so blurred?

tvn24.pl/2414000,0,0,1,1,na-majtki-w-samych-majtkach-i-butach,wideo.html

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I hope you realize that the Janet Jackson incident occurred nearly a decade ago. It's old news now. Alot has changed since then. For one, we have a new liberal president (Barack Obama) who supports legalizing gay marriage and marijuana.


I read the website you provided.
It says "Indecent exposure laws in most states make it a crime to purposefully display one's genitals in public, causing others to be alarmed or offended. Indecent exposure is often committed for the sexual gratification of the offender, and may reach the level of a sexual assault if any physical contact is made."

genitals = a penis or vagina

The lawyers website you provided says nothing about topless women. You fail again =]

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All of the links I've provided occurred within the last few years ...except my example about Poland trying to ban pûrnography in 2000.

"The Polish parliament has approved a ban on all pûrnography, both soft and hard-core. It still has to be approved by President Alexander Kwasniewski but correspondents say that if it is, it would be one of Europe's toughest anti-pûrnography laws."

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/665375.stm

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Well i wish i could find some articles about Polish women sunbathing topless ...but sadly Polish girls don't go topless for fear of harassment and fines.

And the link you provided is about women going topless in the city. She lost her appeal to walk topless in the city. But I'm sure it's still legal at the beach. Phoenix Feeley is famous for walking topless in the city. She wins some battles and loses some battles.

But that's just one city. There are still thousands of other places that girls can go topless like California, Texas, New York, Florida, Hawaii, Oregon etc...

And that's the whole point of the GoTopless movement. That's why 1 million women are planning to march topless to Washington D.C. on August 26st this year to clarify the laws!!!

"Mark your calendars, everyone. Feminists have planned a massive demonstration to advocate equality for women by exposing their breasts in public. Women are to gather for the "Two Million Boob March" in Washington, D.C., and remove their shirts and bras. Gotopless women have chosen Aug 26, 2012 for this revolutionary event because Aug 26 is Women's Equality Day."

mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/208549.php

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You made yourself sound really stupid. It shows how little you know about America.

USA has more nude beaches than the whole world combined. In fact, California has over 30 recognized nude beaches alone. Here is a long list of socially nude beaches in America.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_social_nudity_places_in_North_America

And here is are some videos about nude beaches and resorts in USA
youtube.com/watch?v=vjtPBiOJuSk&feature=related
youtube.com/watch?v=bzmL0yKzRGY&feature=related

You Poles are way behind us American's. A single state in America has more nude beaches that all of Poland =]]]

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I'm not here to argue with you guys. I love Poland. It's a beautiful country and my favorite in Europe. Poles are very smart and friendly people.

I am simply offering my perspective as an American and sharing my knowledge with you (without the media bias). I can find many worse countries than Poland --like Belarus, Russia, Ukraine, or Turkey (or even some a state like Alabama).

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Are you guys even Polish ? Johnny doesn't seem like a Polish name --yet you fiercely defend Poland in the comments.

I'm American but i study in Poland.

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JonnyM
Yes, but it does shows how little you Europeans know about America. You acted as if Poland was the only country in the world to have nude beaches... when in reality...we have hundreds of nude beaches across the USA.

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California has a population of 38 million people and over 30 nude beaches. Poland has a population of 39 million people and only like 2 nude beaches. Even the smallest American states still have more nude beaches than Poland.

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Nudist beaches aren't popular in Poland, even during the summer. Sunbathing topless is still taboo in Poland. I've lived in Poland since last summer and never seen a topless woman at a beach in Poland.

America has 50x more nudist beaches than Poland. The most famous nude beach in America is Black Beach, California. It's attracts around 50,000 nudists every year to the Burning Man Festival. Search it on YouTube.


HAHAHA you wish. I watch lots of Polish TV and i always hear "beeeep". Even programs rated 16+ in Poland censor swear words and nudity. Only light swear words are allowed on Polish television.

"kur(beeep)" "je(beeep)" "ch(beeep)" "spier(beeep)". "gow(beeep)" HAHAHAAH

Here is a Polish TV show about topless protesters from Ukraine. Why are the nipples censored though??? You Poles so offended by the sight of a nipple??? They completely blurred the nipples=[[

vimeo.com/34556229

Here is another video from TVN24 about topless sledders in Germany. Again, the nipples are censored. WHY ???? You Poles are uptight about a topless woman.

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Again, you're wrong. We have 5 nude beaches in Michigan. We love public nudity in Michigan. Here is a news video about the famous "Naked Mile" in Michigan that happens every year. The movie "American Pie" was based off this. Again, i bet this wouldn't be allowed in Poland =]]]

youtube.com/watch?v=TPN4b4KUkh4

I find it funny that you live in a country (Poland) that does not allow public nudity or sunbathing topless at public beaches.

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You're making me laugh now. You Poles hardly use swear words (even in public). In America, the word "fu*ck" is very common. I hear this world like 2000x a day. My professors back in Michigan always said "fu*ck" in front of the classroom and no one cared.

Most American movies these days use the F-word over 150x per movie. I actually find it annoying that every sentence people say "fu*ck". But it's become normal talk in America to talk like this. Here is song by lady gaga and it says "f*ck" over 30x in the song ...

Even our Vice President, Joe Biden, said "This is a big f*cking deal" on national television to Barack Obama in front of millions of viewers. No in America cared. It's common language of politicians and everyone.

youtube.com/watch?v=N4x_0el7j8I

This is stupid though. Why are we honestly arguing over something like this ?

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Yeah even though i've provided you with dozens of YouTube videos and websites proving what i say. Maybe you just don't bother looking at them? Go through all my comments and i prove everything i say with videos and websites.

I'm 100% American and proud. Why would i make this up?

BTW this was meant to be a short thread by me and you Poles turned into a long debate way off topic.

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I've never noticed that. American movies are full of sex and full-frontal nudity.

Watch the movies "Brokeback Mountain", "Bruno", "Taking Woodstock", "American Pie", "Harold & Kumar". Almost all American movies these days are full of full-frontal nudity and sex.

Here is a good sex scene movie for you Poles with Angelina's tits. It doesn't look "shaded" to me. This movie is soft in comparison to what we have now.

metacafe.com/watch/1344713/angelina_jolie_antonio_banderas_original_sin


No you can't lol.

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That website said public nudity (for no apparent reason) was not legal in Michigan. But it said there was 5 privately owned (membership) nude beaches in Michigan... which is what i was referring too. And if you watched the video about the "Naked Mile" you would see it's a tradition every year for thousands of college students to run naked. The movie "American Pie: The Naked Mile" is based off Michigan

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You're talking about laws from 30 years ago ? Again, provide me with some current information. I just gave you a list of movies that feature full-frontal nudity and graphic sex scenes. Here are some good American movies for you (if you conservative Poles can handle them) =]]

-American Pie
-Harold & Kumar
-Forgetting Sarah Marshall
-Bruno
-Taking Woodstock
-Virginity Hit
-Wet Hot American Summer
-Project X
-Zack and Miri Make A pûrn
-American Beauty
These are the types of movies that come out every week in America. They are full of sex and nudity.

BTW you made yourself sound really stupid because Poland use to censor all sex and nudity from movies HAHAHA =]] Here are some websites about Polish censorship of sex and nudity in case you forgot:

[i]Censorship and the Polish film

Nearly half a century of history of post-war Polish abounded in strange and symptomatic phenomena , showing the original nature of his countrymen Hub Kolodziej . The fact is that PRL was considered the gayest barrack in the camp fenced off by the Iron Curtain unreal socialism. And this was due to the flowering of satire official and illegal activities, including in numerous cabarets of television Cabaret Old Men at the helm.

Interesting phenomenon occurred also in the film industry and film culture that even mention the existence of a Polish film school , where most courageous stories and document creators have tried to reflect the social reality on the screen and some historical reminiscences .[/]


You're talking stupid again. These are 100% public-accessible beaches ran by nudist organizations. They are freely open to the public. Michigan is a small state of 8 million people. Why would our government spend money creating public nude beaches when Michigan is cold most of the year and bankrupt? We aren't surrounded by a beautiful sea like you are in Poland.

Now try comparing to California to Poland (which has the same population as Poland) and you get owned haha. California has over 30 public nude beaches. Black Beach California attracts thousands of nudists each year. People actually go to nude beaches in America...unlike you conservative Poles. I bet the nude beaches in Poland are empty lol =]]

The "Naked Mile" takes place on public property through the city of Ann Arbor (not private property as you claim).

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The truth is here my bracia. £isten to what i have to say and accept the truth.


Okay, let's compare Vermont and Poland. Vermont has a population of only 626,431 people. It is much smaller than Poland in terms of size --yet Vermont has 9 public nude beaches. A baby state like Vermont has more nude beaches than the entire Poland. Again you are owned. Just give up sweety =]]]


Sorry for my mistake. I can't speak Polish well. But you act as if The PPL didn't suppress nudity and sex in the media??? They obviously did. I read an article many months ago about how PPL strictly banned nudity and sex during the communist years. I can't find the article now though and i don't have time to look for it. But let's not forget that Poland tried to ban erotica and pûrnography only a few years back (even after the collapse of the Soviet Union). It's obvious that much hasn't changed in Poland since the Soviet years.

Nudity and swearing is still censored on Polish TV. I'm still trying to figure out why this non-sexual video of topless German sledders is censored in Polish media?

I also want to know why this 16+ rated TV show censors swearing . I guess 16-year-old kids in Poland are still not old enough to hear swear words. You Poles are pathetic. Even a program rated 16+ still censors the swearing HAHAHAHA.

youtu.be/3frDkumcvRQ

I have to leave soon because i actually have a life. I can't spend my entire day on the computer. But here is a very interesting article about Polish censorship before i go.