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Joined: 16 Feb 2010 / Male ♂
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Interests: Pointing out the arrogant hypocrisy of most of the forum members...especially the Polish Expats and Euro Know it Alls.

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beelzebub   
16 Feb 2010
Life / Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage. [237]

I would like to commend you for not being such a patriotic jaggoff that you came in here cheering "Poland is the best country in the UNIVERSE".

My solution for you is simple. Stop worrying about pointless ego stroking things and live. The more "proud" someone is the less I generally like them. Humble people are best. Live well...be good to other good people...and you will be much more content than worrying about national pride.
beelzebub   
16 Feb 2010
Life / 3 reasons why winter is the best time of the year in Poland [58]

I lived in a building with mostly old folks. In the beginning when I didn't really speak any Polish I was always getting stuck in the lift with a few of them chattering away. I just smiled and shook my head "yes" a lot and it seemed to work because they smiled back and just kept talking. They either thought I was the nicest yank in the world or the dumbest.
beelzebub   
16 Feb 2010
Life / Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage. [237]

Then you have some common sense. Only idiots are that blindly patriotic. The massive Polish inferiority complex makes them annoyingly "proud".
beelzebub   
16 Feb 2010
Life / Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage. [237]

Oh give me a break. What have you done that honors them so much Timbo? The current generation would be an embarrassment to the WWII era Poles. Also...they didn't do what they did so YOU could do anything. They did it to survive. They are not different than anyone else who survived horrors...the nationality doesn't matter.

Why do you let your egos rule you so much? The more someone talks about how PROUD they are to be some nationality the more useless they are to that society as a rule.
beelzebub   
16 Feb 2010
Life / Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage. [237]

I don't care enough to go quote for quote with you and frankly I find people who pick apart posts like that annoying. But I did notice your last comment...people who encourage others to commit suicide are a special kind of disgusting. Good job showing the world your true character ;)
beelzebub   
17 Feb 2010
Life / Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage. [237]

This is the best therapy for me. de-constructing a fool.

It is good to see you are self aware and not embarrassed to deconstruct yourself. Maybe there is hope for you to shake the Polish pride complex yet.
beelzebub   
17 Feb 2010
Life / Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage. [237]

Krystal you said live in the US and seeing as your ancestors went to the US a long time ago I gather you have your whole life? I am asking because your English sounds like it's not your native language. Did you not grow up in the US?
beelzebub   
17 Feb 2010
Life / Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage. [237]

The people who go on and on about "Polish Pride" are the same ones who get drunk and sing those stupid football songs while waking everyone up and bothering people on the trams and buses shouting out how Poland is the "greatest nation on Earth!!!". Pride is an ugly and dangerous thing.

I have noticed in my years around the world that the smaller or less powerful the country the more often their people say things like "Yeah Armenia is the greatest nation in the world and our Army could kick your arse!!!". Give me a break.

I can't stand empty blustering and quite frankly wouldn't mind Poles so much if it weren't for the constant whining, arguing and blustering. I don't think a day went by when upon being known as a Yank I wasn't engaged in some "verbal challenge" or bragging about how great Poland is compared to the US. You are your own worst enemies.
beelzebub   
17 Feb 2010
Life / Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage. [237]

Oh, come on now - it's just banter. I don't think anyone takes all that talk seriously :-)

Well that's where you are mistaken. This builds up a reputation for you as a people and frankly it's not the greatest. If you want a better international reputation then stop with the bragging and nonsense. The "stupid" reputation of Poles comes from the stubborn unwillingness to do more than the bare minimum or admit fault. If Poles don't know something they will lie or blow it off rather than admit it and find out or fix it....people don't like this.

I can go on for hours with fellow expats about the "Polish way" and we often have each other in stitches because there is so much that is "different" in Poland and it's rarely "better".

If you want to be respected start acting in a way that deserves it.
beelzebub   
17 Feb 2010
Life / Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage. [237]

Americans are OBSESSED with patriotism and your bashing Poland? Reality check!

Have you lived in the USA Orzel? I have lived in both nations for a long time so before I bother replying to you in detail I want to know if you even have the actual perspective. I am doubting you do based on your above comments.

And Torq...you are the kind of person that keeps me from being able to say in all honesty that all Poles suck. Just like in any place there are good and bad people and reasonable and unreasonable people. You are fairly reasonable not because you claimed to agree with me but rather because you are willing to consider the view.

Sadly for Poland the national reputation is not a great one...some of hat is undeserved and rooted in the past and some is well deserved and current. Nobody is criticizing the Poles who fought and survived the occupations...nobody is saying Polish genes are defective...what we ARE saying is that modern Polish culture has some huge changes it will have to undertake if it want's respect.
beelzebub   
17 Feb 2010
Life / Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage. [237]

Poland is the only country in Europe that has a positive growth of BNP now.

Way to illustrate the Polish trait of taking credit for something they didn't have anything to do with. It was a matter of coincidence that this all occurred while Poland was in this particular stage of it's economy. With the massive amounts of credit Poles live on (more than the Yanks on a per unit income basis) there is a BIG mess coming. Nobody can afford a 500,000pln flat on 2500pln a month yet there are plenty of those around.

BTW Swede you quoted someone else but put my name on it....I didn't say that.
beelzebub   
17 Feb 2010
Life / Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage. [237]

Here here Torq...I cheered out loud at the "get rid of 90% of rules and fire 70% of clerks" bit. Actually I wouldn't want people to lose their jobs but FFS require them to actually KNOW and DO their job. They are the biggest obstacles to getting anything done in Poland. I actually was nearly kicked out of Poland 3 years ago because some official went on holiday for 2 months and my papers didn't get signed. For nearly a 1/4 of the year I had no papers and no explanation from them or way to prove I was legal. Made a real mess.
beelzebub   
17 Feb 2010
Life / Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage. [237]

I realized I misspelled and was going to change it but now it just looks like I am editing it because I was busted ;) So I will leave it. I have no ego really. I am always doing that with it's/its site/sight etc. Oh well..at least I don't type in text speak like most people anymore.

I had two types of people I dealt with in any Polish office (especially immigration) 1. The cute younger ones who flirted and helped you as long as you smiled and were nice and 2. the other 90% some young, some old who were not even hiding the fact that they despised even having to talk to you and treated you like crap.
beelzebub   
17 Feb 2010
Life / Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage. [237]

Yet another example of the Polish knee jerk "blame someone else and deflect" tactic. It's inevitable. Can't you ever just say "yeah that's something we should work on" without saying "but"?
beelzebub   
17 Feb 2010
Life / Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage. [237]

And why is that ?
To tell you the truth I couldn't care less!

Well since you don't care I will skip answering your question ;)

The "world" won't be kissing Poland's arse ever, that is a fantasy of the extremists.

People are not beating down Poland's doors to live their either. In fact cheap labor and the EU backdoor are the only reason the international community cares about Poland at all.
beelzebub   
17 Feb 2010
Life / Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage. [237]

We don`t need your cares...

You need our money. Without foreign investment you would be living in the dark ages. Get off your ego trip and accept your place in the world. You are not going to be in charge that's just life.
beelzebub   
18 Feb 2010
Life / Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage. [237]

The answer is simple - don't invest!

Sure I will call the heads of states and the IMF and let them know...what are you on about? Simple? Hah.
beelzebub   
18 Feb 2010
Life / Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage. [237]

But if nobody invested the majority of Poles WOULD care when the country went to hell. Can you really be that stupid to not see that?

You NEED the investment but your ego prevents you from even admitting that.
beelzebub   
18 Feb 2010
Life / Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage. [237]

What exactly is YOUR problem in Poland ?

That's a long list...if I could ask one thing of Poles it would be to take responsibility for your inadequacies rather than make excuses and shrug your shoulders. I have never been somewhere where people make more excuses while doing nothing. You make the French look downright efficient.
beelzebub   
18 Feb 2010
Life / Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage. [237]

No I am not talking about ungrounded prejudice...I am talking about clear and obvious behaviors exhibited by certain cultures. You can try to dismiss it by calling it a stereotype with the negative connotation that has with it, but everyone knows it's true.
beelzebub   
18 Feb 2010
Life / Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage. [237]

You must be kidding right? It's common sense if you look at salaries vs real estate costs. Also look at the cost of goods, cars etc. It is an impossibility for people to be buying all they do on what they earn. But you knew that.
beelzebub   
18 Feb 2010
Life / Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage. [237]

Me? Hah...boy your observational skills need some tuning. I am inferior to those superior to me but that's it. I am firmly confident that I am in the upper half at least :))

And Marqoz you are deflecting as is so common with Poles. The GLOBAL crisis is one thing. Poland's credit party is another.
beelzebub   
18 Feb 2010
Life / Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage. [237]

I didn't say respect your superiors...YOU and your confidence problem brought that out. I said accept that you are not a superpower and stop making excuses for everything.

And a Pole living in Canada acting all nationalistic about Poland....how original. Why is it Poles who live abroad are always blabbering about this kind of thing? Sell out.