Genealogy / Are all Poles blue eyed and blonde? [450]

I don't know where this stereotype comes from. Polish people have light pale to olive oil skin. I personally get mistaken for Persian or Turkish all the time, and both my parents are Polish. Everyone on both sides of our family has a dark complexion.

Historically, Poles have are the product of mixing. There is no 100% pure Polish look. We've been invaded by Vikings and by Turks, Tartars, Mongolians, etc... so perhaps that helps to explain the wide variety of signatures on our Slavic looks.

History / Polish-German alliance. [489]

This thread is sickening. Poland and Germany are antithetical nations. The main reason we are christian is so Germany wouldn't colonize our "heathen" pagan lands. We took baptism as a way to resist your attempts to civilize us.

Why don't you German "friends" start your own forum instead of colonizing this one? Or is that just what you do best?


If we ignore 1000 years of incursions, invasions, and wars which always necessitate such propaganda... we can start with anti-Polish rhetoric in 18th c. Prussia. The German naturalist, ethnologist, travel writer, and journalist, Georg Forster, dismissed the idea that the Poles were a part of European culture, comparing them to primitive tribes and portraying Poland as an underdeveloped, uncivilized land awaiting the importation of Kultur from "truly civilized countries". Frederick the Great called us the the "Iroquois of Europe" and "a barbarous people sunk in ignorance and stupidity". Many German academics in the 18th – 20th century, wrote about the difference between Germany and Poland as a boundary between civilization and barbarism; high German Kultur, and "primitive Slavdom".

Many racist texts about Poland were published between the 18th and 20th century, and these were republished by Nazi Germany.

Don't forget also that during those wonderful years of the partition of Poland, Poles were subjected to routine discrimination. Otto von Bismarck described Poles as animals (wolves), that "one shoots if one can" and implemented several harsh laws aiming at their expulsion from traditionally Polish lands. The Polish language was banned from public, and ethnically Polish children tortured at schools, just for speaking Polish. Poles were also subjected to a wave of forceful evictions (Rugi Pruskie).

No anti-Polish propaganda? Please, you guys invented antipolonism.

History / Polish-German alliance. [489]

What you could not do for a 1000 years, you are trying to do with you German led European Union. But the truth is Polish nationalism is not going to warm up to you anytime fast.

Here is a list of our Polish-German alliance as it played itself out through history. The battles Poland fought when it was first born (Piast period) are:

# 972, against Germany
# 1003–1005, against Germany
# 1007–1013, against Germany
# 1015–1018, against Germany
# 1018, against Kievan Rus
# 1072, against Bohemia
# 1109, against Germany
# 1146, against Germany
# 1156, against Germany
# 1241, Mongol invasion of Poland, with prominent Battle of Legnica
# 1326–1333, against the Teutonic Order, Battle of Płowce

Should I keep going (Jagiellon period is not much different)? You`ll find our friendship more or less develop in this pattern for a millennium. Don`t tell me we`re pretty much the same. We developed our sense of ourselves in the need to defend ourselves from your relentless appetite.

And for the record you invented antipolonism.

History / Polish-German alliance. [489]


Like which ones? Go ahead and name them.