History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [869]

Asking who you hate more, Germans or Russians is like asking what you like more, headache or toothache. The answer is “none”. Both these powers killed millions poles and would not hesitate to occupy Poland again under right circumstances. There is no doubts in my mind that WWII was not the last military conflict in that part of the world. Sooner or later the borders will be rewritten again. What Poland should do? Seek a partner with the similar history, similar size, and the similar suffering from German or Russian occupations. This country is Ukraine. Poland should help Ukraine to get to NATO and become economically stronger. After that Poland and Ukraine should develop nuclear weapons. Most of the military industry of the former Soviet Union was located in Ukraine, and it would not be a big deal for Ukraine to develop nuclear weapons again.

History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [869]


Using this argument, Germans should occupy western part of Poland to "spread civilized way" of building better roads.

History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [869]


So, how far back you want to go to claim "your" land. Sixty years, one hundred years, or one thousand years?

History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [869]

Filios1,
Where your hatred towards Ukrainians is coming from? Yes, there were fights between Ukrainians an Poles in the past, but Ukrainians, as opposed to Germans and Russians, never wanted to occupy and destroy Poland. All they wanted was to have an independent country. Can you blame them for that. What nation does not want to be independent?

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Were Poles happy with the Germans being in Poland?

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Celinski,

From your posts, one may conclude that you are hugely penetrated by Russian propaganda and present only the facts, which were often "created" by NKVD or anecdotal evidences.

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You are right. We must not forget any unjustnesses and genocides which happened in the past, but when you see from your posts that you are only ‘fixed” on Ukrainians, you may wonder that there must be some personal gain you are pursuing.

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Celinski,
Have you heard about Auschwitz or Katyn?
Again, what personal gain you are pursuing being so fixed on the historical conflicts between Poles and Ukrainians?
Do not give us the sh...t about justice. What monetary compensation would make you happy?

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It's unbelievable! This lady's family was sent to Siberia and you do not hear a word from her about a genocide done by Russians. Instead she is fixed on Ukrainians who were the victims themselves for so many centuries and didn't even have their own country until recently.

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Finally. When you do not understand the reasoning behind someone’s babbling about “justice” and “historical facts”, just follow the money. Thank you Celincki. Your future posts on this topic will not have any credentials.

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Of course it’s all about the money. When you have the people who live in the past, it’s always about the money. They dream how rich they would be if the history was different or what mansion they would live in (like in Celinski’s case). Their hatred comes from their inability to prosper or live a good life in the present time.

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You are right Grzegorz. We should be concentrating on the real or potential threats to Poland not on what happened in the past. The best way for Poland to protect itself in the future conflicts is to have nuclear weapons. And the best way to achieve it is to have a partner such as Ukraine for which it would be easy to develop that type of weapons

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So, what happened to your family? You just told us that they were sent to Siberia. How is it connected to your hatred towards Ukrainians.

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Your grandfather was saved by the Ukrainian family, and this is how you are paying off to the nation your grandfather's savers were belong to!!!!

It's unbelievable. But as I said before you just have to follow the money. Your innocent request for the Ukraine to say sorry is not so innocent. You live in the states and learned quite well that the first step in admission of guilt is to say "sorry". You know perfectly well that for Ukraine to apologize, as you demand, is the first step in admitting to be guilty in something which the whole nation was not involved at all. And you as a citizen of this great country know that after you admit to be guilty - you pay, you pay big money.

So, please do not sound so innocent asking for Ukraine to say sorry. We know that the real reason of you "exposing Ukraine's guilt" is to get a monetary compensation for the estate your family left behind.

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The Jews in Poland are treated quite well. But do not ask Jews themselves this questions. It’s advantageous to play a victim card, you’ll gain more.

History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [869]


Very naïve question. You are powerful when you have money and/or political power.

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That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heart. All they have what most other ethnical groups do not have is the UNLIMITED access to capital (money). And when you have unlimited access to money it’s easy to be or start another business even if your previous businesses were complete failures and you do not know what you are doing.

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I’m sorry but you seem to be so naïve…talking about the topic you evidently don’t know much about. What makes Jews from oversees better business partners or investors than anybody else? Believe me, Poles are as good entrepreneurs as anybody else, and it’s in Poland’s interests to rely on it’s own people and not to be controlled by multinational corporations.

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Professional degree from Canadian university.

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Am I interrogated? Get a life Seanus...

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Oh...children ):