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osiol   
19 Jan 2008
Language / Polish Swear Words [1242]

'Syf'

You could say 'Syf ucking mess.'
osiol   
19 Jan 2008
Life / Polish mentality towards Pakistan [108]

if you ask y instead of pakistani i used paki then plz spend some more time surfing the internet or try to use the computer more often which will broader your mind

Computers broaden the mind? That's like saying LSD really does expand conciousness!
Where did I say I was right about everything? On this thread? Read again (if you're still using this site).

In the UK, anyone I have ever heard using the word 'Paki' has used it as a racist insult.
osiol   
19 Jan 2008
Language / Polish Swear Words [1242]

I could sure use it when referring to the state of my workplace

It's not swearing, but you could call it a pigsty, a dump, a tip - a ****ing one or not.
'This place is in a (****ing) state!'

So, probably not - you just have to say what it is and decide which adjectives to qualify that with.

Oh! I've just thought of 'minging'.
osiol   
17 Jan 2008
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]

are you telling me all these things are imaginary

Only a bit. Where do you draw lines of commonality and difference? The rules are different for whichever part of the world you are looking at. Different people use different rules (which come from the imagination). Therefore it is imaginary. Who's to say though, that imagination doesn't count for something? Did I say that?

But let's take Asia for example.
Russia, Turkey, Yemen, Sri Lanka, Vietnam, Mongolia. What's the connection?

Of course Luxembourg and Monaco are in Western Europe

I disagree. Sort of.
osiol   
17 Jan 2008
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]

Europe is imaginary. Asia is even more imaginary. Look at it - one huge landmass and outlying islands, most of which are connected by shallow continental shelf. When I was doing all the working out for my last couple of posts on here with the maps and everything, I almost considered inventing one or two new continents.
osiol   
17 Jan 2008
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]

Indeed. There are only two entirely Western European countries.

I thought about the Northern-Southern thing a bit more. I have decided that because the Greenwich meridian seems to be so important for longitude in navigation and cartography, why not make it more important for latitude as well.

Voila! Poland is in Central Europe.
osiol   
16 Jan 2008
Language / Polish Swear Words [1242]

Yes.
But I realise you can't just take any old swear-word and throw it into the mix.
I just take it as being, like in English, you take a word like ****, sprinkle a bit of grammar on it, use it with a few other words and it might just alter the meaning, whereas using the word **** would make much more sense.

I'm censoring this myself, by the way.
osiol   
16 Jan 2008
Language / Polish Swear Words [1242]

It must be a bit odd though to qualify 'Chuju' as 'pizdowaty'.

It is time I turned round this highly memorable information and used it for the forces of good rather than evil.
Maybe not evil, but certainly naughty.
osiol   
16 Jan 2008
Language / Polish Swear Words [1242]

adjectives

Nice.
That's a kind of noun turning into an adjective.
Otherwise, I assume I just use something like:
jebany/jebana/jebane
pierdolony/pierdolona/pierdolone
etc.

As in 'Ty jebana pizdo!'
Although my occasional teacher never uses less than three swear-words in one go.

When I had a cold on my last holiday, one of my hosts described me not as 'chory' but as 'chujowy'.
osiol   
16 Jan 2008
Language / Polish Swear Words [1242]

This thread has always been a favourite of mine.
That is because I am a BAD DONKEY.

What I really want to mention is the vocative case, my latest area of study.
What? Grammar on a thread all about being rude and offensive?
Yes.

It seems that you can call someone any number of things using the vocative, with or without the word 'Ty' beforehand.
So far, I know the following. (Any other 'Swearing Thread' afficionados might want to help by augmenting my list with their own examples):

debil > debilu (not swearing, but it is offensive)
chuj > chuju (****)
pizda > pizdo (****)
osioł > ośle - donkey

How do I, can I, add a few adjectives here?
osiol   
16 Jan 2008
Life / Polish mentality towards Pakistan [108]

osiol suggests pure as well

As many people on here have knowledge of two different languages, we should all be aware of how one word in language A might been translatable to a choice of 3 in language B, and so on. Free, pure and peace. Hmm. Not a million miles from eachother, so for different situations each of these may be appropraite for the same word.

Any experts? Rather than just the usual bunch of amateurs!
osiol   
16 Jan 2008
Life / Polish mentality towards Pakistan [108]

i'm guessing that there is very little thought about paki.. it's out there in central asia.. no real effect on PL except for mountain expeditions.

or working in the UK. The agency that supplied Polish workers to the company I work for was run by a Pakistani. He personally was very unpopular for his habit of paying his workers late every month. That kind of behaviour is more representative of his profession than his nationality or origin.

Pakistani is the generally accepted term for people from Pakistan.
Supposedly, Pakistan means land of the pure, but also means

Punjab
Afghania
Kashmir
Sindh
Baluchistan

Somehow it seems to fall apart at the end with Baluchistan, seeing as there are so many other -istans.
osiol   
16 Jan 2008
Life / Poles are not racist [873]

go to poland - experience what it has to offer

First hand accounts say so much more than second-hand accounts and generalisations.

Negros are racist.

All of them?
osiol   
14 Jan 2008
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]

How did Kalininigrad jump out of Eastern Europe and Asia?

It is in the Eastern Europe & Asia zone. This map goes by which zone each particular nation state lies in. As part of Russia, it is PINK because it takes some of the sting out of Russia's geo-political positioning these days.

I did a north-south one, also based on Greenwich, but I couldn't decide whether Belgium's offshore zone would be enough to drag it out of Southern and into Central Europe.

If I had a scanner, I would have used crayons.

EXTRA:

spot the Eastern European a mile away by looking for purple people!

No. The Eastern Europeans are mostly blue. The pink ones may be Eastern European, but may be (Western) Asian.
osiol   
14 Jan 2008
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]

To illustrate the above point and also to draw more attention to it, I have done some colouring in (which is always quite fun, even without crayons). Here's a map to clarify to everyone what countries are in the east, the west and the centre. Enjoy.

I apologise to all Icelanders for not showing on the map that their country is in both Europe and North America.


  • Osiol Geography Lesson # 452
osiol   
14 Jan 2008
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]

It has been suggested that the geographical centre of Europe is in Poland, thus making it Northern Europe, Southern Europe, Eastern Europe and Western Europe, all at the same time.

However, the position of this particular point is widely disputed. There is a system of lines of longitude - the lines running north-south that you find on maps, with the universal prime meridian being the Greenwich meridian which runs through England, France and Spain.

Any countries west of here must be Western European - Portugal, Ireland, the Faeroes (if Denmark allows me to include them) and half of Iceland (the other half is North American, or more precidely: Eastern North American).

Countries to the east of here must be Eastern European - Belgium, Luxembourg, Andorra, Monaco to name just a few.

That leaves the aforementioned France and Spain (Central Europe) and the UK which is in a peculiar position of having England in Central Europe; and Wales and Scotland in Western Europe. Taken as a whole, the UK is most definately Central Europe. The only other country that may also be in Central Europe is Denmark. I mentioned Denmark before. Greenland is (Eastern) North America, the Faeroes Western Europe and Denmark proper: Eastern Europe. Greenland is neither Europe, nor is it, despite being a part of the Kingdom of Denmark, a part of the European Union, so it may (or may not) be removed from this discussion. So Denmark is Central European too.

All of Europe is north of the Earth's most important great circle - the equator. Therefore all of Europe is northern, so there is no such thing as Southern Europe.
osiol   
13 Jan 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]

Turks from Turkey or all Turkic people? I've never met a Yakut, so I couldn't possibly say.
osiol   
13 Jan 2008
News / Original cars manufactured in Poland [64]

Old polish promotional video for URSUS.

I dig the music. I'd like to have seen more of the old tractors though.
osiol   
13 Jan 2008
News / Original cars manufactured in Poland [64]

Is that you

The one I drive is much older, but that did look like fun.

ursus.com.pl/en/index_en.html
Ursus home page

The 50-something year-old Massey Fergusson

correction: 40-something year-old Massey Fergusson.
The company is only 50 years old.
osiol   
13 Jan 2008
News / Original cars manufactured in Poland [64]

In case this thread starts to run out of steam, may I bring up the subject of Tractors.
The 50-something year-old Massey Fergusson I drive at work has been said to be remarkably similar to a Polish tractor that goes by the name 'Ursus' or something like that.

what year was that in ?

A bigger number than you can count to.
osiol   
12 Jan 2008
Food / Bigos Recipe [183]

Rye

* Donkey adds various things to tomorrows shopping list *
osiol   
12 Jan 2008
Food / Bigos Recipe [183]

I could always invite PF members to come along and share

Are you offering to cook for us? Zgubiony's recipe looks like it could feed the 5000.

allspice berries

A little bit of the Caribbean.
osiol   
12 Jan 2008
Food / Bigos Recipe [183]

It does look like it makes quite a large quantity.
osiol   
11 Jan 2008
News / Original cars manufactured in Poland [64]

Who cares about horsepower when you can have donkeypower?

<< This post almost wants to be sent to random chat. >>
osiol   
11 Jan 2008
News / Original cars manufactured in Poland [64]

Other than the Fiat 126p? Although Fiat is obviously an Italian company, I think that was manufactured there.

edit: It was manufactured there. As for a home-grown company producing cars in Poland, someone who has an interest in cars or a bit more (ie. some) knowledge of Poland's manufacturing industries will have to answer that. I don't even drive a car - I can't stand the things. Bicycles rock! Unicycles are pretty cool too.
osiol   
8 Jan 2008
Food / Pierogi recipe and filling from my grandmother [179]

roast beef NOT ground beef that she cooked then put thru a grinder with onions and such

I'm not Polish, but my mother used to do a similar thing with what was left after the Sunday roast ceased to look appetising after a day or two. Not the bit with pierogi, of course, but I imagine it was probably a fairly common way of dealing with leftovers.
osiol   
8 Jan 2008
Love / Polish Women Versus Your Local Women ? [289]

negative attributes

There aren't enough of them where I live (I could just be talking about my town, but I could be more specifically talking about my flat).

Was that a negative attribute, or just grounds for my lack of detailed knowledge?
osiol   
7 Jan 2008
Food / Where can I buy lamb in Poland? [89]

Sent it for a post-mortem, followed by cremation

Cremation looks like a better word than incineration when talking about someone's pet.
Somebody was unpopular after the sad news was broken - he tried to share a lamb rogon josh with the distraught owner.
osiol   
7 Jan 2008
Food / Where can I buy lamb in Poland? [89]

Lot of sheep in Zakopane, but they milk them.

Mmmm! Ewe's milk cheese!

I keep hearing stories from someone at work whose lady friend kept a lamb as a pet. It used to live in the house and follow her round like a puppy. She went away over Christmas and left it with a nearby equestrian centre. Unfortunately the shock of real life, combined with a diet of just grass (the poor thing hadn't been weaned off bottle-feeding yet) led to it's untimely demise.

Wrong country, and there's none of it available for eating, but I just thought I'd throw that little (sad) story into the mix. A previous thread I started highlighted the unpopularity of lamb in Poland.
osiol   
26 Dec 2007
Language / Polish Swear Words [1242]

I leave Polish swearing to the Poles in the main although the occasional kurwa is therapeutic

Better to understand a bit of bad language even if you're not going to use it yourself.
Imagine having a little bit of phrase-book Polish, going on holiday, asking for directions and hearing some kurwa and various words based around the root pierdol-. You might not know where to go. (Although you might guess that elsewhere to ask for directions could be the answer).