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gregy741   
8 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

might be in some manner equal to their converse

i think all this ,was a result of nations being subjected to extreme circumstances where humanity was degradation to the point of animal instinct of survival.

to some,at the cost of decency.many didnt pass the test of humanity.
but then again,wonder if todays critics of Poland would pass it.
reminds me of days of Londons riots few years ago and peoples behavior.wonder what would Londoners humanity end up looking like if those people were forced in such harsh conditions and terror for years like in EE
gregy741   
8 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

and here some true polish jew example,to change mood:
When, after the war, at a conference in California, where the United Nations was established, there were no Polish representatives . Polish pianist and composer of Jewish origin - Artur Rubinstein, indignant, played "Mazurka Dąbrowskiego" and ordered to stand up to delegations.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Rubinstein
yea,there were plenty of polish patriots of jewish roots as well.
gregy741   
8 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Indeed. He was klled by Jew Helena Wolniska-Brus and other Jewish collaborator scumbags.

prosecutors were :
Beniamin Wejsblech i Paulina Kern both jews
main judge - Maria Gurowska -jewish
other judges : Emil Merz, Gustaw Auscaler i Igor Andrejew all jews save igor-russian i think

To have our most patriotic AK members killed?

not o mention that he created the only europe organization helping jews zegota
gregy741   
8 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Ever asked yourself about the other side of the story, gregy, or did you just jump on the bandwagon like nearly everybody else? What was their motivation?

never quite understand this jewish motivation in murdering poles or russians.
there was one guy russian historian who studied documents from nkvd court and their prosecuting procedure for 30 years
he said what stroked him most that there was no logic no pattern in who they were killing and why? it seems like they were murdering people just for the sake of killing. completely random,sometimes villager sometimes young student.no evidence no motives.
gregy741   
8 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

German Jews when Hitler came on the scene, one never quite knows how events had unfolded had the image of the Jew not become demonized as it had.

to answer you to that i will tell you a story about the whole polish and ukrainian intellectuals ,professors ect.were murdered in most horrific manner by jewish nkvd in Lvow prison.just one day before wermacht marched into city.

people were kissing their hands from joy after what they went through horrors of jewish nkvd leadership
gregy741   
8 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

There were plenty of totally assimilated Polish Jews (and half-Jews) whose names I've mentioned several times on PF, who contributed richly to Polish culture!

true that..but Bolsheviks wars,nazi occupation and Stalinist time brought out the worst traits from humans.both poles and jews.
its stupid that we throw mud at each other now and whole world is watching
gregy741   
8 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

That's the point

not really..he later says that all this reactions was misunderstanding of Poland intentions.
and he was the highest rank Israeli official,leading this hostile attack on Poland,in strongest words.if he says it was misunderstanding,it indicate they changed position.

surely he wont admit that all new bill is correct and he will not say that he accept new bill becouse that would make himself an idiot when you recall how strongly he attack Poland few days ago.

politician will never admit his blunders
gregy741   
8 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

He said nothing about accepting the IPN law or that the Polish state did not collaborate with Germany.

he did :
"The Israeli Minister assured that he supported - as he said - the main component of the Act on the Institute of National Remembrance, i.e. getting rid of the term Polish extermination camps.

"I respect, understand, and speak about it in Israel," he said.
gregy741   
8 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

When did he say that? I know he said something quite similar a while ago,

today
tvp.info/35938300/minister-edukacji-izraela-chce-by-kazde-izraelskie-dziecko-wiedzialo-ze-obozy-byly-niemieckie
this is this guy who was banned from coming to Poland few days ago.
one week ago he said he wanted every child to learn that Poland collaborated with Nazis..today he speak different tone
gregy741   
8 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

looks like Israel is backing down:

"Israeli Education Minister: I want every Israeli child to know that the camps were German" Naftali Bennett.
he is leader of far right party in Israel and he was in strongest words hostile to Poland recently in regards to this new legislation.looks like he comes to his sense
gregy741   
8 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

some basic info for Israelis in regard of collaborating with Nazis :
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judenrat
" that without the assistance of the Judenräte, the registration of the Jews, their concentration in ghettos and, later, their active assistance in the Jews' deportation to extermination camps, fewer Jews would have perished because the Germans would have encountered considerable difficulties in drawing up lists of Jews. In occupied Europe, the Nazis entrusted Jewish officials with the task of making such lists of Jews along with information about the property they owned. The Judenräte also directed the Jewish police to assist the Germans in catching Jews and loading them onto transport trains leaving for Nazi concentration camps."

sent it to Netanyahu cretin,no too late to get some knowledge,so he wont have to talk out of hes arse
gregy741   
7 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

good book for Netanyahu:
kansaspress.ku.edu/978-0-7006-1358-8.html
150 000 jews in Wermacht.
"150,000 men, including decorated veterans and high-ranking officers, even generals and admirals"
its more accurate to say that Auschwitz was jewish death camp

its just getting hilarious.
countries that officially condemned Poland for adopting this bill apart from Israel:
Norway,Ukraine and today -France.
now,what those countries have in common in regard of SECOND WORLD WAR and Holocaust??Vichy anyone remember?
now waiting for condemnation from Estonia,Italy,and Slovakia
gregy741   
6 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Duda confirmed his readiness to sign law that forbidding use of term 'Polish death camps'

am surprised.Dudas is totaly surronded by jews.hes wife is jewish and one just need to look at the face of his spokesman
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krzysztof_%C5%81api%C5%84ski#/media/File:Krzysztof_%C5%81api%C5%84ski_Sejm_2015.JPG

ohh that nose ,soooo not polish
gregy741   
4 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Jan Gross did!

nope he didnt..and not a single scholar regard him as historian,because of hes manipulations and outrage lies
Gross's critics have argued that Golden Harvest is based on a one-sided interpretation of its sources, the vast majority of them secondary ones. and thatch what is commonly regarded among scholars-as c.r.a.p

Gross is school time colleague of Michnik(hes family being wanted for Stalinist crimes in Poland),not even basic historian background.
gregy741   
4 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

So who are the best people to listen to about history, then? Poeple who study it, like historians, or people who don't?

you use one book as source is called Plagiarism
2 books -history book
3 books-deep analysis
them today's "historians" sit at home,farting in chair ,pick up 12 books and write 13-th
nobody uses primary sources anymore.
best are memories,notebooks,and ppl who uses primary sources or experiences.i use to even read notes and letters to family from Wehrmacht soldiers ect

not c.rap from some canadian jew or Gross kinda like rubbish
gregy741   
4 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Polish professors and historians

YEA..Historians such as Gross...
one quote another and call it research.wait until this bill come to life,all those historians will run back to Tel Aviv

Well plenty of people know about Rumkowski

how bout Morel? do you know he was protected by Israel and regarded as hero till end of his life?
gregy741   
4 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Strangely, you never seem to hear about the 2nd one.

and about solomon morel who murdered few thousands poles,and about koniuchy,naboliki,about millions poles prosecuted by jewish NKVD.
about naftaly frenkel,about 6 millions starved ukrainians by lazar kaganovitz,
about
Pawel Kukiz graddad,killed by NKVD jew and his dad sent to syberia by jewish prosecutor.
and about jew Chaim Rumkowski who sold small jewish children to be killed by german Nazis
and about most brutal NAZI collaborator that is black jewish ghetto police and on and on
gregy741   
4 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

one more question Michael..
do your historian know exact quantity of Lampshades and made from human skin by Poles.and how many shrunken head did we manufactured while collaborating with Nazis?and how much soap we made from jewish fat?

from what i remember all those things were 100 % proven to be truth by your king of "historians" even proven to be true in Nurberg
gregy741   
4 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

To be so brash in terms of this kind of law, further isolates the country from the West.

you delusional? or 12 years old. Israel is hated in the west europe. almost all west Europe leaders are pro Palestinians..Poland was a rare supporter of Israel policies in middle east.

To go full on against Jews is very unwise if Poland wants good relations

fok relation with fascist state of lairs..good bye

EU who have already condemned the Polish government for pushing this law.

what? where did you get this from?is that sort of garbage they feed you in Tel Aviv?
and for the rest garbage with bad Russia...best not to comment such idioce..
guess what?they would never call Auschwitz a "polish death camp"
gregy741   
3 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

@gregy741 - yes you can call the Japanese hiroshima bomb the "Japanese nuclear bomb" in English

got it..my english is not perfect,so i take your word for it.
so french wermacht army fought french army in battle of France,and Polish wermacht army fought Polish army in September campaign...now."polish death camps" make sense

also i believe english luftwaffe fought english air defence in battle of england.
gregy741   
3 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Why the wow ? Germans have invested a lot into the whole "call them Nazis

didnt expect Germany to get involved,especially on Polands side in this conflict.all this pushing blame on Poland was in their interests after all.

good that they had decency to say it laud that Poland had nothing to do with it..look even Donald Tusk said nothing,but blamed PIS.