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Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]
I will expand further tomorrow evening as I have to go to bed now as this topic needs to be explained more in depth,
Interesting, because this in particular needs explaining:
- he was planning it much earlier, but the reactions to the Euthanasia program made him realise that he could not do so in Germany herself
The German public outcry was against the euthanizing Germans not Jews.
Why didn't he do it in Poland, France, Holland then? German public opinion again? :) We are talking prior to 1942.
- the idea at first was simply shoot them, but when they tried that, it became too expensive
No, The Jews were forced to work for the Germans till 1942.
- then he wanted them to work themselves to death,
No again, laboring in the ghettos in German factories was not murderous at all.
- by the end of 1941 it seemed that not of these solutions worked satisfactory
You can stop here since you are talking about the first two years of the war.
I think Martin Gilbert has explored this territory, but I will look into that and else there are unfortunately only Dutch historians who have gone in depth into the topic.
All historians dealing with WWII understand there was no plan to exterminate the Jews prior to 1942, but it will be interesting to read what Dutch historians came up with that no one else knows.
I have not read Sir Martin Gilbert's works but he has turned out some of the dumbest Holocaust "historians" on this planet. Here's is one Robin O'Neil on Armia Krajowa and the Jews:
The AK net spread far and wide,... Whether they were really effective against the German invaders, or in the protection of the Jews, as they might like history to think, is another matter. They did not buy any arms from deserting German soldiers until very late in the war. No partisan detachments of any importance were established by it before 1943, and, anyway, not only were Jews not accepted in the AK ranks, but a number of AK detachments were actively engaged in hunting down and murdering them.
If the AK succeeded in removing more than 200 Germans it would be surprising. Some say they killed more Jews than they saved; they were certainly hunted down during the war, and after. Through the whole conduct of hostilities on Polish soil and their relationship with the Jewish agencies, the AK was a reluctant band, who utterly failed the Jews in their greatest hour of need.
jewishgen.org/yizkor/poland/pol001.html
From his wiki entry:
and is a regular lecturer at universities in the United Kingdom, United States, Israel and Eastern Europe.
Now, this clown travels around the Holocaust circuit giving lectures. He should be challenged publicly on those statements, and either sent back to school or sued for defamation. But let's not dwell on him, your statements are more interasting.
