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Tja...that ist the big question....not to mention that lower labour laws DO actually help rising economies to attract companies, investments and jobs and so to help their own workforce and economy. After all the living costs are still also lower...

That puts a different spin on your tale of "colonization through stronger economies", doesn't it? ;)

These strong economies suffer too in such a market, not only do they lose companies and high wage jobs, alot of workers with low wages expectations are immigrating in high wage countries and help to push the wages down...

But in time though everything will (hopefully) even out, with former low wage countries rising up and with their economies also the wages rise and the gap will close in time, surely but slowly...

If there is a better way for a Union to synchronize their economies please do tell...

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@Ironside

So, what we truly need are the same wages in all EU-countries...fair play for all workers...no big profits for the fat cats because of moving their companies for lower labour costs...means alot more integration (labour laws, social laws, tariffs etc.) than we have now!

A "common market only" - Union won't cut it...

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.....that is actually a good idea!

Maybe then to produce in "cheap labour" - countries won't make any sense for these companies anymore and they will come home, re-building lost jobs here again?


They should build alliances to re-negotiate the EU treaties then...alone breaking them would end their membership and the other countries won't have to keep to their own parts in those treaties anymore either.

Maybe PiS knows that exactly (I can't believe they don't have researched all about it meticulously) what these treaties bring to Poland and decided that they still get a lot more out of it than otherwise?

One has to wonder why PiS and Co aren't angling for a PolExit if a future outside of the EU would look so truly bright....

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@Spike

A competition ambitious Polish companies will also have to contend with soon, not only with "local" European rivals, but the big global player...

Maybe then, closing ranks with your European partners would make us all stronger....just an idea! :)

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Just think about it Spike....if GB had been Poland's neighbour through the millennia (with Poland being the unwilling part of their Empire building) you would sing the high praise of Germany today! :)

Neighbours have always much more difficult relationships than with far away countries...there is no use in categorizing countries and whole peoples into "good" or "bad" because of their geographical location and consequential shared history....just keep that in mind!

And no, because of our geographical location Poland and Germany will never be just "distant neighbours"...

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When Germany does the same you somehow never find something admirable about that,but rather lament the mean bad Germans and their "meddling ways"...why is that?

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@Spike31

How would you know...how many Germans do you know?

And what would that mean for "achieving bigger things"? Usually "collectivists" achieve more than individualists...

You like your stereotypes much, aren't you? :)

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What would that be?

PS: Great Britain seems to be disintegrating...

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8839179/Support-Scottish-independence-soars-record-high-new-poll-58-cent-UK-split.html#comments

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Should I copy/paste every sentence made by stupid polish politicians now?

Do you think Barley is the Führer of the german EU-Reich?

PS: She has been criticized for that remark in Germany...an apology is still missing though!

rmx.news/article/article/german-politicians-slam-mep-barley-over-her-remarks-about-starving-hungary-and-poland

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*nods*

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If she would be really the "Führer" of the new "Reich" as you implied Poland would have taken in as many of them as Germany wanted and said "Danke Schön"!

Somewhere your argumentation is faulty....maybe mixed with some regret?

Are you really a Pole? I'm always abit dumbfounded about posters on a polish board with the Hitler number 88 in their nick...

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Only one vote, like every other member....what a Reich!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_in_the_Council_of_the_European_Union

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Nope...I never said that...not even East Germany got rich overnight, not even after the "Anschluß" to super rich West Germany!


Love you too, Iron! :)

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One of the biggest is oil!

"... Since the discovery of North Sea oil in Norwegian waters during the late 1960s, exports of oil and gas have become very important elements of the economy of Norway."

Till Poland could brag about a similar discovery and becoming practically super rich overnight I would avoid compare Poland's economical challenges to Norway's...

And yet, even Norway does his part:

"... Although Oslo does not pay directly into the EU budget, it does contribute to a compulsory instrument known as the EEA Financial Mechanism. ... Norway currently pays €391 million per year, plus some extra for access to various other EU instruments, according to a new paper from the People's Vote campaign."

The "Norway-model" was actually talked about during the Brexit campaign, as a possibility for GB...there have been made some important points:

irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/brexit-explained-what-is-the-norway-model-and-is-it-an-option-for-the-uk-1.3712387

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....and the time before the EU had been such a high point for the white countries of Europe. I believe to remember Poland got nearly annihilated...but I could err...

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I have done my thinking and like to believe I have influenced some of the future of my country, now it's the next generation...it's their future after all, they have to shape and to live it!


...is that so? Something in the water? Or the toothpaste? :)


I now came to think that wouldn't had stopped Hitler at all. His rise could and should had stopped. IMHO the end of WWI was handled so badly it paved the way.

But Poland profited mightily from the treaty of Versailles. So...I'm searching for a more fair treaty for both of our peoples but I can't find any...especially not with the French sitting on the table.

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So....Poland did always everything right? How come it still ended up so often in such a ****** position during it's history?

Listen, I really don't want to start another dick fight...I'm just saying that defeats can teach you often more valuable lessons than victories. Even as they are much more difficult to handle, especially mentally. Who doesn't prefer a nice victory parade plus pride overall...understandable.


Agreed! :)

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....well...I personally will surely have died out till then, so... :)

History / Battle of Vienna - history movie about Poland / Commemoration [36]

I would be proud to have some Neanderthal in me...that would make me double NATIVE, heh:)

But frankly all that "dying out" talk is useless...not even the Native Americans have died out....not to mention that they too hadn't been native to the Americas but immigrated from somewhere else.

What you really fear is the end of the Western Civilization as you know it, the top spot for a few white people getting lost...that could happen in the future...but that isn't synonymous with "dying out" which only can happen if your DNA gets deleted from the gene pool. And frankly, watching more and more Afro-Americans with the phenomenon of blue eyes (THE definitive proof of heritage for Europeans) I doubt that very much.

I wish you would vocalize your fears more clearly!

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The mainstream 30 years back was IMHO (at least in the West) also a lot more conservative/rightist.

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The mainstream was different 30 years back!

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Nothing! *wanders off to Random*

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Well....if that's so then he deserves all the CNN reporter of this world!

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That's what I wonder! What would have made this man even mention these studies in a political speech, no matter where. What point exactly was he trying to make with that?

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]

Why did he make it to a topic at all? Does that have anything to do with his politics?

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Well, that article gives proof that there is something to that, men and women differ in many ways, this is a fact....but that is a far cry away from "women are dumber than men". I think most people object to THAT, and that isn't a scientific fact at all!

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I never heard of that....do you have a link?

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Agreed...it's a similar revolution as the invention of the letter print machine once was.

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That didn't start with the Internet.....to listen to several news sources is an old thing....just remember back to WWII or the times of the Cold War. Radio waves couldn't be hold back by the Iron Curtain. People in East Germany even watched West TV when they could. It was also a propaganda war!

It's not so much a question of availability but trustworthiness. A survey found out that a majority of Germans still watch and believe the "mainstream" news, even as they inform themselves also through various Social Media. The Internet has become an addition, not a full replacement.

The tipping point, where a majority completely distrusts the mainstream media and only believe their own opinion bubble has not been reached....yet. Maybe will never.

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Wouldn't that be cool? That would give Poland's voice much more weight...

I wonder what that would mean for Warsaw's policies in Brussels....and it's alliances...


Neo-Marxist, Islamic AND Nazi!!! WOW!!!