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Smuggling illegals over the border?

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]

....MILO....where have you been!!!

And yes...having to pray 5 times during battle would be even better! :)

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]

Today in Germany's biggest tabloid BILD:


bild.de/politik/kolumnen/kolumne/kommentar-danke-polen-78230606.bild.html

(google translate)

It is one of the last lessons for Chancellor Angela Merkel: Poland is closing its many hundreds of kilometers long border!

What, according to Merkel, was supposedly not possible with us in 2015, our neighbors are successfully implementing in a short period of time.

Poland is thus impressively resisting a perfidious game with refugees. And shows the despots in Minsk and Moscow the red card.

That's right!

The EU states must not allow themselves to be blackmailed by Putin and Lukashenko. You must also prevent refugees from entering the country uncontrolled.

Poland does just that.

The government in Warsaw is also showing that it has learned its lessons from the 2015 refugee crisis. And thus helps the entire EU - including Germany.

The Polish government therefore deserves recognition for its course. Not malice and criticism.

Thank you Poland!

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*nods*


True...can't wait to end our dependence on THAT! (For the environment too, heh:)


Right now Germany reminds me about the interwar years, after the treaty of Versailles.....but it didn't take the Nazis long to rebuild, the expertise and the experience was still all there.


Depends.....do they have to pray three times a day also during battle? :)

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.....might be!

But that doesn't count for Islam, doesn't it....the most islamist countries are quite weak, backwards and no danger for Europe at all!

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Nah....if we Europeans would had stood true to our real own spirits and beliefs and not forget about all of our true roots for some far away traditions (christianity) we wouldn't today not need to be so fearful of some other far away traditions (islam)! :)


I would not want to live in a muslimic society....and if they have the same rights then they only need the numbers to make our countries islamic!

And I never heard from you an idea to stop them from becoming so many....the only other way to stop that development is to discriminate against islam!

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Seriously?



I know Europe being walled in is not such a nice idea, I agree with you....but till these countries get themselves out of the mud and can offer their people a perspective we don't have so many possibilities. Just taking them all in will overwhelm our societies....especially those "multikulti" ones where they with their stoneage religion would have the same rights as everybody else.

I for one and with me most other Europeans don't want to wake up in a muslimized society one day....where the muezzin screams over the streets and people have to get used to headscarfes etc.

If such a wall as the Greeks just build it saves us from that...so be it!

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Why? Do you think they can tear them down? That would be an act of war....

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


Not with real good fortified outer borders....that's why they are the next step!

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Maybe more of a "resentment"?

After all neither polish nor german immigrants were so coddled during the centuries....nowhere!

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Photos and fingerprints (from 14 year olds)....DNA only during a criminal procedure...

bamf.de/SharedDocs/Anlagen/DE/AsylFluechtlingsschutz/Asylverfahren/begleitbroschuere-asylfilm.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=12

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.....not in Ukraine!

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I have my doubts....and what is "G*rmany"?

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....the need to feel "good" is strong!

But I wonder if Ukraine could be bribed to take them all in....would that feasible???

And would the illegals follow? They must know that then Germany is a no-go.....

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Gerald Knaus just called (the advisor of Merkel...the one with the grande idea to pay Erdogan those billions).....he now says Poland should disturb Lukashenko's trafficker modell and take the immigrants in first BUT then distribute them across safe non-EU countries (Ukraine???).

The democratic countries should build an "anti-blackmail-pact" against Putin and Lukashenko.

focus.de/politik/ausland/lukaschenkos-schleusermodell-zerstoeren-xxx_id_24424798.html

I wonder what the Ukraine thinks of that idea.....

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....for all those self-declared "Menschenfreunde" people like me with more of a rational brain still on their shoulders we often were called "Menschenhasser" or "Rassisten"....or "Islamophobes" and what not.

Also very popular: We (especially Ossis) need more exposure to such illegals so that we come to understand and like them better (no joke)....


No, it shouldn't....but our "Menschenfreunde" feel themselves so much superior to everybody else...

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Well.....it's not such a clear cut black-white case, and 2015 was such a disaster we still haven't fully recovered from....the changes in the german political landscape are profound and there to stay. There is no appetite for more of that!

Understandable...but longterm the biggest change will be the break of the taboo about fortified EU outer borders, the "Festung Europa"....mark my words!

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It won't be only brainless leftists becoming nuclear waste if pushes came to shove and someone presses the red button....me in Berlin too! You are gonna miss me, so there! :(

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Erm....


the-sun.com/news/4040068/us-nuclear-germany-eagle-hypersonic-missiles-moscow/



Might have something to do with that?


bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-11/u-s-warns-europe-that-russian-troops-may-plan-ukraine-invasion

....The U.S. is raising the alarm with European Union allies that Russia may be weighing a potential invasion of Ukraine as tensions flare between Moscow and the bloc over migrants and energy supplies.

With Washington closely monitoring a buildup of Russian forces near the Ukrainian border, U.S. officials have briefed EU counterparts on their concerns over a possible military operation, according to multiple people familiar with the matter....

Still.....going nuclear now? Over Illegals???

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Hopefully our next chancellor has more of a spine.....

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And here I thought Poland would be also glad to keep the Illegals away from the polish border....what exactly is your problem now?

I find it more humiliating that Merkel is begging Putin for help....that's much worse! As if Lukashenko does anything without Putin's approval....

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]

Blame Trump for the detoriating relationship between the US and the EU....that was never wanted by Germany!

That was a stupid thing to do to put the US trust to Russia and China....

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Well...it wasn't as if Trump had much love for the Europeans in the first place....put the blame where it belongs!

The first thing he did once in office was showing the Europeans the finger and brownnosing the Chinese....what do you expect?

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I doubt that....that call was about Lukashenko, not Poles....why do you believe she talked about Poland?

twitter.com/bopanc/status/1458385013502844929

Merkel called Putin to ask him to influence Belarusto stop "inhumane and inacceptable" use of migrants at the EU border

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Interesting....Twitter now says:

#Migrants at the border were offered to ask for asylum in #Belarus or return home

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1458780738153816067

That means there is no reason to try for Poland and the EU anymore.....

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Everybody needs a friend....Crowie too! 🥺

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Poland Putin's puppet??? I find that hard to imagine....with Hungary I'm sadly not so sure, Orban is also a fan of China! :(

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*nods*

I think the same...

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Now it get's interesting:


reuters.com/world/europe/lukashenko-belarus-will-retaliate-against-any-new-eu-sanctions-could-cut-gas-2021-11-11/

...On Thursday, he raised the possibility of cutting off the Yamal gas pipeline that carries Russian gas across Belarus en route to Poland and Germany.

"We are heating Europe, they are still threatening us that they will close the border. And if we shut off natural gas there?," Lukashenko said in comments published by the state news agency Belta.

"Therefore, I would recommend that the Polish leadership, Lithuanians and other headless people think before speaking," he was cited as saying....

But for that he needs Putin's backing....will he dare? *gets popcorn*

PS: But that of course is exact that situation why NordStream was being build in the first place....to cut out such unreliable middlemen....

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Well...most of Germany has....that where originaly are "only a few thousands" on the Autobahns can become quickly a million knocking on your door! And that we don't want a repeat.......and I think the rest of Europe has learned by watching. Not every bad experience you have to make yourself!

No "refugees welcome" poster with teddy bears this time....

I wouldn't downtalk Frontex so much, the german leftist hate them....they blame Frontex in the Med for pushbacks of people, especially his chef Fabrice Leggeri has become some kind of enemy for our open-borders guys and gals!

spiegel.de/ausland/frontex-skandal-europapolitiker-fordern-ruecktritt-von-fabrice-leggeri-a-c8c447f3-1982-4d07-80ee-cf2592736254