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...to Krim and Donbas? ;)

I guess the Irish would be very much happy for getting Ireland back already....

PS: ....interesting post just in:


x.com/MOSSADil/status/1935350659294896639

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What I mean is....Israel has been attacked and threatened since its inception with annihilation...if they haven't used them till now they won't....imagine the Mullahs with its daily screams and promises of destruction having once the possibility...you can't blame Israel for taking it away from them, can't you!

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That all needs longterm, excessive planning...but Iran is about to lose all these heads and deciders.....

Since the beginning of Israel's military campaign against Iran's nuclear and military infrastructure, the Israeli military has targeted and eliminated key figures belonging to the Islamic Republic of Iran's (IRI) military apparatus.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) launched Operation Rising Lion just after midnight on June 13, targeting key nuclear and military facilities inside Iran. The operation began with a wave of precision airstrikes carried out by Israeli Air Force fighter jets guided by intelligence from the IDF's Military Intelligence Directorate and the Mossad. Besides Iran's military leadership, the IDF targeted scientists working on the regime's nuclear program, air defense systems, and other infrastructure.....

A little list:

longwarjournal.org/archives/2025/06/israeli-airstrikes-eliminate-senior-iranian-military-officials.php

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.....I thought it to be sure and accepted between everybody and their grandmom that Trump keeps out of it (but also doesn't constrain Netanjahu).....

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....well they neither build some nor used some....so the Mullahs don't need either!

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...they don't need nukes for that!

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Yeah....me neither!

What do you think the Mullahs will do with these nukes once they get them working?

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Isn't it the other way around? Israel is destroying Iran's possibilities to threaten us in the West with nukes, they are fighting also for us.....and what do we do?

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Do you really wish Israel in NATO? Imagine to actually really having to put in men and material for its defense...

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...Turkey AND Israel in the same military alliance??? That could be funny quickly....

I guess this must be enough:

The NATO website describes their relationship:

"For more than twenty years, Israel has been an active NATO partner through the Mediterranean Dialogue, the only security forum that brings together NATO Allies with Israel and Arab countries.

In 2017, Israel established a permanent and official mission to NATO headquarters."...

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....the one attribute of all these 'isms, even when starting out with so much hope and promises, they NEVER deliver!

I wish people would learn from all that painful history for once....

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....or he is clever enough to cut his losses?


I just read that the Saudis raised their oil production shortly before it all started....they surely got a call!

PS: Doesn't look good for Russia and China....having bet on a soon-to-be-dead-horse....

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There are rarely official mass marches with burning US flags....neither the Saudis nor the UAE plan to destroy the West with self made nukes...quite the contrary, both are also hard core enemies of Iran!

Teheran is not known for clever foreign policies...making enemies left and right....I guess that will be their downfall, sooner or later.
The one "friend", Putin's Russia, has been also astoundigly quiet during the last days, not helping much. I guess Putin knows also more than we do!

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....and that doesn't tell you anything?

I would conclude from this image that they want to do away with the Mullahs the same way as they do away with the Abaya the moment they can!

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An isolated population is alot easier to control than one with access to the wider world!

Hence the Berlin Wall....or North Korea....Afghanistan....there is a system, a reason behind. Outsiders, other ideas, choices, possibilities....not at last contact to the opposition, which may gathering and organizing the resistance....

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I had rather the living conditions in mind....the fear of an allpowerful rulership.....which just kills any dissenters if they didn't already left the country.....the strict following of a holy book....the worshipping of declared "saints", the demonization of any other opinion...etc....such things....the real-day life of the common people under it, their forced lack of choices!

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....is there so much difference between Islamism and Communism?

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PS: Just some thoughts....

I wouldn't believe the official propagated pictures by Teheran so much, the ones with burning US-flags and "death to Israel" posters!
Because I also remember the huge parade for the 40th anniversary of the founding of the GDR....if you knew nothing of the reality in this country you would see only a strong marching military, cheering crowds waving GDR-Flags etc.....you could think they all truly loved their leaders and that oppressive system and stood fully behind all this....well....that parade was at 7th October 1989....only a few weeks later the people danced on the teared down Berlin Wall...free of the SED system at last...making their real, true opinions seen for everybody.

I can't help compare that situation to the Iran of today...I don't believe these official anti-West demonstrations in Teheran either!

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I dunno.....I remember the time before 1989 and how very much many of us back then at the wrong side of the wall wished for some more foreign influence to get rid of the party baggage in East-Berlin!

And how would you call "West-Radio" or "West-TV", free information, uncontrollable by the leaders, which played a huge role anyhow....

I'm fairly sure that many, many Iranians also hope right now for some more foreign interfering, but yeah...in the end they must do their part too!

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Does he know something?


You and what army???

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Erm....even if that would be the truth, my belief is in Israel that they bomb them back to the stone age before they let that happen.

One survived genocide will be forever enough!


IMHO its the other way around.... the decision by Trump to not support Israel in that way anymore might have swayed Netanjahu to give the nod to this attack...it might have been different if the US would still be ready and willing to be a player in the ME....

There has been intense talks shortly before between Washington and Jerusalem....and the Pentagon knew everything ("Pizza night"), but they did nothing. I guess that's how its going from now on!

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How else do you try to decide what for other peoples would be right or wrong?


Hency my couldbe-scenario!

Unlikely to happen again but did happen before....and you can't tell me seriously that any try (and success) to take Hitler out before 1939 wouldn't had spared Poland and Europe including Germany and even the world lotsa suffering and grief!

So...yes...it would had been an attack....but yes, it would had been the right decision!

Its the same with Israel and the nearly-nuke-ready-Mullahs! They just can't wait till the Mullahs press the button!

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...humour me and imagine the rise of a new Hitler in Germany. A new '33 if you so want....a new-Hitler which becomes immediately best buddy with Moscow.....and wants former german land back, and generally has not much use for Poles as neighbours, who would find a direct border with Russia so much better.....should Poland do something before the **** hits the fan or just let it all play out...again! What would you advise?

What would be right and what would be wrong in this situation?

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Persians.....and then came Islam!

Another example what happens to great people if they don't fight islamization....

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I thought about that....and frankly I doubt that.

Trump is not that important in the greater scheme of things. He is neither that charismatic or that smart or really that suitable for his job, but he has become a figurehead for a whole movement/development that happens everywhere in the West. He was at the right time in the right place, so to speak!

But even if not successfull, the reasons for that movement he stands for, promised to work and to speak for, are still relevant, still unsolved, will exist further even without him.
In the US the Dems, in Germany the SPD/Greens, have yet to acknowledge these developments, have yet to find answers, have yet to change/adapt their positions to become again an electable alternative for the majority.

And till that happens I doubt the US will/can go back to the old times before Trump. Frankly spoken, even when Trump doesn't fulfill his promises, I very much doubt someone like Kamala Harris will profit from it, as a majority of people still want these promises fulfilled!

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Trump is in power for how long just now? ;)

That whole bureaucracy behind must be a nightmare.....that will probably take years. Not to forget the economical influence of such a base and their importance for intelligence gathering.
Even if no longer taking part in any skirmish physically, the US will need to keep their eyes and ears very wide open!

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With Trump no longer....and Netanjahu accepted. No longer rescue from the US in the worst case, he has to rescue his people alone.

The same recalibration is happening in Europe too. No matter what or who comes after Trump, that will be his (great) legacy!

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They can nuke each other to their hearts content.....as long as they don't threaten us in the West! Hence Israel is neither attacking Islamabad nor New Delhi!

Stop playing the ignorant...we are talking about the Mullahs....


That!

They know very well that nobody else will solve it for them...so they have to do it themselves, and they just did!

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So....you prefer the Mullahs with nukes?

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They are saving YOU and your loved ones from being nuked too....for the Mullahs YOU and your loved ones are the enemies, and once they would have fully functional nukes they will use them. That's them Mullah's for **** sake. They kill their own people for not obeying their religious nuttery!

They are no common rational power gamer....for them killing "unbelievers" is a holy duty...for them you are just another "useful idiot"!

Nukes in the hands of religious nutters....a nightmare Israel is just saving you and me from!!!