USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

Hmmmmm

So maybe Poland is like a nice delicious milkshake. You got a problem with that? LOL

You might be onto something.

I heard a bunch of Germans, Austrians, Ukrainians, Hungarians, Russkys, Swedes and others came into Eastern Europe, mixed up with each other and became the nice milkshake we today call Poland. ;)

USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]


I didn't see in that article where it said Boehner was of full German ancestry but he does appear to have a German name. But I don't mind taking your word for it that he's a full German ;)

Anyway even though I'm not of German ancestry, I wouldn't mind seeing more German Americans like Boehner in political office. If Boehner's influence on politics is seen as a German American influence on America, I wouldn't mind seeing more German American influence asserted in the US.

USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

I don't know why Poles should be criticized for giving the leader of another nation credit in the Polish national anthem.

If anything it shows Poles are humble enough to give another nation credit which they felt it deserved and that maybe the Polish people themselves didn't always have the answers to everything. Its indirectly a humble self criticism of the Poles by themselves. Most nationalists of any country are NOT objective enough to give other nations credit for anything since they are blinded by their own nationalistic biases.

Most nationalists of any country are too ethno-centric to give other nations credit for anything, let alone do it in a nationalistic national anthem.

But I'm sure if the Polish national anthem was all about the Polish people and nothing else, the critics of Poles here would say "oh those Poles think they know everything', "their not objective" etc. lol

Genealogy / Americans of Polish descent. How many of us are on Polish forums? [216]


Holy cow I can't believe it, I agree with you 100% on this one LOL

America is a very special nation indeed. A great nation I may add.

Are you an imposter of delphiandomine? What did you do with him? LOL

USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]


What does that mean?

What's an example of a Polish American doing that, whatever that is?


LOL

Can you give some examples of that?

USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]


What do you mean by Polish Americans should have a decent critical viewpoint???

What do you mean by Polish Americans "have quite the opposite"??

USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]


Polish Americans should have a critical viewpoint?

Such as?

What do you mean?

USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]


Why should I believe him when its obvious he is giving you special treatment that other bloggers don't get? You get to throw around the word "Polack" but I get criticized for using the word "Russky".

You can go around bashing Polish people as "Polacks" which the moderator tolerates for some reason, but the moderator criticizes me for saying you are a "Russky" because I believe you sound like a "Russky". I mean its not like I used a curse word or anything. But then again maybe some people see being seen or portrayed as a Russky as being a curse.


I guess this is supposed to be some kind of Russky reverse psychology here? You are the one who has the FSB/Russian viewpoint on the Smolensk plane crash, NOT me.

Its interesting how your attacks on Poles started to go up after criticisms of Russia.

USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]


I agree. No doubt he is being provokative and he barely knows anything about Poland for all the time he supposedly lived there. It seems like he has some kind of vendetta against Poles.

He has barely learned anything about Poland in 2 years. After 2 years of living in Poland, delphiandomine can only barely speak Polish.

Either he's not too smart or he just doesn't want to learn Polish since he doesn't like the Polish which we can all pretty much see. Just about every other comment of his is an attack or put down on all things Polish.

But I doubt he reads any Polish publications since he only knows like 10 words in Polish. I seriously doubt he even lives in Poland. That's just his act. He reads English language news on Poland and then tries to use that news to make himself look like he is "on the ground in Poland" and an expert on Poland.

I believe he gets most of his English language news from Russian based English news sources like Russian RT news.

USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

Comrade why don't you just admit that you just wish all Poles would be sent to the Gulag concentration camps that people of your ancestry started.

You are nothing but a virulent Polish-hater who wishes that you can send Poles to your Gulag concentration camps that people of your ancestry used to do all the time because they spoke out against your sick commie people's injustices. You and the people of your genetic ancestry can't send someone like me to one of your nation's Gulag concentration camps so you are fustrated and hence attack people like me. You can go F yourself because people of Polish ancestry like me you can't kill like your people did in Stalin's day so it makes you go crazy.

The nation of your ancestry is a disgrace to human kind especially since it allied it selve with Nazi Germany. The fact that I point that out is why lately you have been bashing Polish people so much. I hope and pray that the cities of your ancestry are riddled with violence and attacks since that's all white trash mongols like your people understand.

F RuSSia. The most evil nation on this earth.

USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

LOL

Yeah delphiadomine every day whines about how he hates Polonia, Poles in Poland and always diminishes anything good the people of Poland have ever done. He keeps talking about all the things he feels are bad about Poland. Just the other day he said "its easy to find bad things in Poland" or something like that. BUT YET, he CHOSE to live in Poland and after complaining about all the things he hates about Poland and Poles he CONTINUES to CHOOSE to live in Poland.

Make's a lot of sense eh?? LOL

He is either a total moron for CHOOSING to live in a country he hates or he has been lying this whole time about living in Poland. I believe the latter.

He may have lived in Scotland but that's not his ancestry. His ancestry is R.......

USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

90%?????? I dunno about that.

OK so I posted that "negative" topic from Alex Storozynski about Polish Americans "complaining" about the reckless media use of the description "Polish death camps". Does that really make me a complainer? I thought that was a worthwile topic for no other reason that it came from a popular Polish American writer.

But, haven't you seen all the positive posts/messages of mine?

Like

-The great tennis player Caroline Wozniacki
-The Hot Slavic Women Tennis players like Wozniacki, Sharapova, Ivanovic
-The good Polish boxer Tomacz Adamek
etc

OK Con, I tell you what, maybe you have a bit of a point about guys like me. I'll try more to focus on more positive and uplifting things.

Another positive topic I had in mind that I didn't get around to posting was the current success of the tennis player Caroline Wozniacki. Not to get off topic here, but I will be posting that topic coming up :)

USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

Con,

It all depends.

I guess it depends on all the comments an individual makes about Poland. I guess as a rough rule of thumb if somebody has BALANCED comments that show sincere thought but are critical I guess its OK. But if all somebody does it put a microscope on the flaws of a nation and the try to use that to DEFINE the nation, then I would think that constitutes a bias against that nation.

There is an old saying.

If you look for what's bad about an individual or a nation, YOU WILL FIND IT.

If you look for what's good about an individual or a nation, YOU WILL FIND IT.

I dare say if somebody is always looking for what's bad or wrong about a nation, they WILL FIND IT and they probably don't like the nation.

I guess it all comes down to what is reasonable.

If somebody says he went to a Polish restaurant and that the food is bad, I would think that's a fair criticism.

But if somebody says EVERY Polish restaurant has bad food, then I would think he's generalizing and generalizing is a symptom of someone who is biased.

USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

LOL

I agree!


I agree!

American "plastic Poles" and regular Poles have to stick together against people bashing Polish people!!!

:)


LOL

I agree!That's because we all come from the same Polish family.

USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

Well I said the Polish American community was a CONTRIBUTING factor and not the decisive factor in getting Poland into NATO. Also speaking about Romanians and Slovenians, the Polish American community did not work by itself on this. I remember reading all the time

in Polish American newspapers how Polish Americans groups were working with other East European American groups on this issue since naturally other East European nations were also candidates for NATO.

From what I recall there were political forces inside and outside of the Clinton Administration that were for and against Poland and other East European nations going into NATO, or going into NATO in a short amount of time. For example Jewish American groups seemed to be split on it. I heard that some of them were contacted by some Polish Americans (and other East European Americans working with Polish Americans) and then there was more Jewish American support for East European nations going into NATO.

Also one must also give Germany credit since I heard Germany was a big supporter of Poland coming into NATO.

In a nutshell there were many political forces for and against it and in the end those who wanted Poland and other East European nations into NATO prevailed.

As for your critique on the Polish American community not being able to budge the state department on the visa issue, that's a fair point. Nobody is perfect. But if anything that should be a reason why MORE Polish Americans should be vocal against what they think is an injustice and not less vocal. But like most political issues, I heard that there are political forces opposing the visa issue which doesn't make things easier.


Hmmmmm

Well it all depends on the issue at hand. Maybe a little bit of all of the above? LOL

As for me being "qualified" on making a political decision in Poland, no I don't feel I am qualified since I don't live in that country, although of course I think I have a right to my opinion like anything else.

During the past Polish election I just made a general statement where I wanted to see the candidates who are good for Poland's economy, good on cutting taxes win. I did not pick candidate X or Y out of respect for those Poles voting.

As for me actually voting in an election in Poland?? LOL I didn't even know Polish Americans could even do that until I came to this forum and I would not even if I had the opportunity. I would leave that to the Poles of Poland.

USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

Softsong,

Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you!

Well said!

Yes what's most important is WHERE THE HEART IS!

Who cares if a supporter of Poland in America doesn't know about some little detail here and there about Poland.......what counts is what's in his or her heart. Does he or she like Poland and is interested in Poland or not is the key. I may not agree with every single thing some Poles say here or there, but NOBODY of any group of people agree 100% all the time on everything lol

No doubt delphiandomine started this topic in an attempt to divide and create tensions between Poles in Poland and people of Polish ancestry. All while he hypocritically acts like he is some great judge or arbiter of what's good for Polish people in general while he takes every oppotunity to knock Poles in Poland and Polonia. The other day he gleefully listed a long list of CRITICISMS he had for Poland and NOT Polish Americans. That's hardly the kind of person who is worthy or credible of passing judgement on Poland or Polonia since his heart is AGAINST Poland totally.

Delphiandomine seems to take delight in any negativity about Poland and its people. I have no problem with people criticizing Poles, Poland or Polonia if its constructive criticism. Heck I have done it myself. I have criticized bad Poles/Polish criminals on many occasions. But his criticisms of all things Polish is reflective of some kind of vendetta he has against Poland & Polonia. His comments about how he "likes Poland" are quite phoney in my book.

Also like you my ancestry is not 100% Polish, yet I have an interest in Poland and Polish people which I think is good.

Yes us Polish Americans are not perfect and yes since we try to be good citizens of whatever country we live in, our loyalty will always be FIRST to the country we live in - America. But that does NOT somehow disqualify us from being supporters of other people of Polish ancestry.

Also it never hurts having a vocal Polish American community putting pressure on government officials here to help Poland when it can. The Polish American community was definitely a contributing factor for the US to have Poland in NATO. There is a NY Times article which talked about how Polonia was pressuring the Clintons and other goverment officials to have Poland in NATO. Back then there was no gaurantee Poland would be accepted in NATO.

Now some may feel that NATO today is not that important but back 12 years ago it was seen to be important and if nothing else was a stepping stone for Poland to be better integrated with other European countries even on non-military matters.

USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]


But that's not your ancestry.

What is your ancestry?

Do I have to remind you?

I have talked about many nations and groups of people but when I discussed this one nation with you and had some criticisms for it, you took it SO PERSONALLY.

Even when nobody was really talking about this nation you went out of your way to bring it up saying that you hope nobody criticizes this nation for things it did years ago.

People fight tooth and nail to defend the nation of their ancestry which you were doing in spades not too long ago.

So why don't just be honest here about your ancestry?

USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

Its all in your paranoid mind about people making a "big show about being Polish". Look at the title of this forum? Its the POLISHFORUM NOT the PolandForum. This forum is about people of Polish ancestry all over the world. Don't believe it? LOOK at all the topics on the Polishforum. Half of them are about people of Polish ancestry OUTSIDE of Poland. You get it??? You think Poles in Poland are not interested in their relatives and friends outside of Poland???

Also by your twisted logic, if you feel that Polish Americans don't like Poland then by that logic that means Italian Americans don't like Italy, German Americans don't like Germany, etc.

Do you see how childish you sound??

MediaWatch:
Poles in general don't sweat the small stuff and its true Poles in Poland appreciate anyone who appreciates their culture.


Oh please.

NOBODY is talking about people being "TRUE POLES" but YOU!!

You are so childish that you are trying to make mountain out of molehills with this silly notion of "I'm a TRUE POLE and you're not.....nyaaahhh nyaaaahh nyaaaahh nyaaaaahhhh nyaaaahhhh" like something kids on a playground would say to each other.

How old are you? 10??

You are the last person to talk about Poles, Poland, Polonia, since anyone can see you have a deep hatred for Poles everywhere. You have an agenda AGAINST people of Polish ancestry everywhere.

That's why you diminish and bash Polonia and Poles in Poland. You have ZERO credibility on anything pertaining to Poland because of your psychopathic hatred of Poland. I noticed it picked up a lot after I defended Poland against Russia with you.

As for your claim that you are "on the ground in Poland", all I can say is LOL!!!!

Yeah and I got a bridge to sell you.

USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]


Well nothing is 100%.

But I think this kind of thing happens with all nations and their diaspora from time to time all over the world. No?

USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]


Me too.

I never heard the phrase "Plastic Pole" before coming to this forum either.

I guess somebody somewhere, with a lot of time on his hands, sits down and makes up these phrases LOL

USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]


Yes you are right.

Poles in general don't sweat the small stuff and its true Poles in Poland appreciate anyone who appreciates their culture. Its just like how Italian Americans appreciate Italy and vice versa, German Americans appreciate Germany and vice versa, etc.

Most Poles in Poland and people in the Polish diaspora are generally easy going people. They are not as anal as this anti-Pole delphiamdomine tries so desperately to imply.

The last person to make comments on Poles in Poland or the Polish diaspora is this angry guy delphiandomine.

I really hope delphiadomine gets some psychiatric help soon.

USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]


Good Gawwwwd. Talk about desperately trying to make mountains out of molehills to bring divisions between Poles in Poland and their relatives outside of Poland.

Nice job troll LOL

Its amazing that in a Polishforum, a blatantly childish anti-Polish thread can be started to try to create divisions between Poles in Poland and the Polish diaspora by someone who has admitted that he is not of Polish ancestry, has admitted he speaks Polish badly (he couldn't care a less about speaking Polish) and who has attacked not just the Polish diaspora but Poles in Poland. Then he has the nerve to imply that he is the great arbiter and judge on all things concerning Poles in Poland and their relatives in the Polish diaspora.

Delphiandomine can throw around slurs about Poles being Polacks but God forbid I give him a taste of his own medicine and call him a Russky. For that I'm criticized by the moderator for some reason. I don't know why I should be criticized for my thoughts when this blatant Polish-hater delphiandomine can get away with bashing people of Polish ancestry all day long and not posting anything productive. I personally notice his hostility goes up after I make comments about Russia in reaction to his condescending comments about Poland, Poles in Poland and Polonia.

Even though delphiandomine has bashed Poles in Poland he then hypocritically tries to act like the great champion of Poles in Poland despite all his bashing of them and almost always diminishing any kind of achievements from Poles.

But nevertheless this forum is not just about Poles in Poland. That's why its called the Polishforum and not the Polandforum. Its about people of Polish ancestry everywhere in the world which seems to drive the Polish-Hater delphiadomine crazy. There is a reason why this forum is in the language that most of the Polish diaspora speaks.

News / Polish IQ ahead of France, USA, Canada, Israel, Ireland... [47]

How do you define lag behind?

Its amazing how people throw around generalizations about Poland on this forum.

Although I think Poland could always do better I think for a medium size European nation it has done OK. It still has the scars of communism that its still overcoming. It shouldn't be taken for granted that great men that changed the world significantly for the better, like the past Polish pope, came from Poland.

Poland has also held its own in international Scholastic events such as winning the difficult world IBM Battle of the Brains computer programming contest. Students from Poland beat Germany, Japan, India, China and even the MIT students from the US in 2007.

2007 IBM Battle of the Brains World Computer Programming Winners are from Poland,

USA, Canada / Why are Polish Americans mocked in the American media? [226]

ShortHairThug if I'm not mistaken that Opie & Anthony anti-Polish segment was about 11 years ago. No doubt that was anti-Polish slur propaganda, no doubt. But I used to listen to Opie & Anthony and in fairness to them they generally ignored the Polish and mocked just about everyone. They made fun of the Black Wrestler "The Rock" and made subtle if not overt ethnic & racist slurs against just about everyone. Even the Jews!

When they said some things about the Jews one time, a Jewish Holocaust survivor called up to tell them to stop it and then they made fun of him!

Here Opie & Anthony mock Jews and even mock a Jewish guy Ben Stein here. They throw around the phase "Jew me down".

This anti-Jewish segment occured about a month after their anti-Polish segment.

youtube.com/watch?v=MP0_wqgWilE

Opie & Anthony seemed to always have a hard time staying on normal radio. They would come on in some big cities for a couple years if not just a couple months, get thrown off then come back then get thrown off. Eventually they were thrown off all normal radio because of their failing ratings. I guess people like this crude humor at first but only a tiny crude element listen to it continuously.

Opie & Anthony were known for pushing the envelope. Basically whatever they said was what normal civilized people did not say. Their crudeness was basically a referendum on what most people shouldn't say.

They got thrown off one time for saying that the Boston Mayor died (when he didn"t) which scared the Mayor's family and they also got thrown off for their mocking of Catholics. They pushed things too much when they had a stunt where they prompted a couple to have sex inside church at Saint Patricks Cathedral in New York City.

Also former Senator Arlen Specter apologized for saying so called Polish jokes two years ago because both Polish Americans and Non-Polish Americans thought he was wrong in saying these anti-Polish slurs. Specter also lost BIG in Pennsylvania. No doubt Arlen Specter's anti-Polish slurs did not help him.

upi.com/Top_News/2008/12/17/Specter-apologizes-for-Polish-jokes/UPI-44361229547951/

I think most American people are fair minded today and don't like seeing people being insulted. That's part of the reason why Arlen Specter got into so much trouble saying jokes against Polish people.

The only people who like ethnic/racial bigotry against other people are generally unsophisticated crude people.

USA, Canada / Why are Polish Americans mocked in the American media? [226]

Trener,

I agree with you.

Different groups have been put down by the TV media. Things have changed in the TV media from the 60's and 70's. You're right in general the white guy is portrayed as a bumbling bafoon while the non-whites are kind of put on a pedestal.

The one thing I have noticed which I think should be obvious to just about anyone is how African Americans are portrayed.

Just about any show or movie about Lawyers, military adventure, drama, etc, the black guy is either the authority figure, the guy with all the answers, the good guy, or the hero.

That one movie with the asteroid hitting the earth in the 90's the black guy was the president of the United States (Morgan Freedman)

"Passenger 57" the black guy (Wesley Snipes) is the hero.

"Independence Day" The black guy (Will Smith) is the hero fighting the Aliens.

"Mars attacks Earth" The black guy is the American General

"LA Law" The black Guy is the smooth talking attorney

Just about any time you see a black character in a movie, he's the good guy. Maybe not every movie but I would say about 95% of the movies and shows.

I have nothing against seeing Black people being portrayed positively since indeed they have a history of suffering. But Holy Cow. At least they can't complain about racism in Hollywood. LOL

I just hope its not meant to indirectly put down white people :(

But you are right many in the entertainment industry are a bunch of corrupt white liberal elitists (bashing their fellow whites)

Have you ever listened to Radio talk show Host Michael Savage?

He is a conservative Jewish American guy and he always talks about the "Sewer pipe from Hollywood going into American culture"

Savage is a very wise man.

USA, Canada / Why are Polish Americans mocked in the American media? [226]


It depends what kind of jokes you are talking about.

If they were the mild pierogi or Kielbasa type Polish jokes then you are right. If they are were the more "popular" subhuman intelligence jokes about Polish people that Network TV introduced and made popular and pushed hard into America during the 1960's and 70's, then I think that should be a main concern for Poles (if that was still happening like it was in those days) , since even the Lefty TV/Hollywood anti-Polish Bigots ADMITTED that the inferior intelligence jokes about Polish people were pushed to CONDITION the American public to regard all things "Polish" to be backward, dumb and inferior. It was basically using the tremendous influential power of TV to push anti-Polish propaganda.

Are there any Polish Americans out there who have that little booklet by the Polish American Guardian Society that gives detailed examples of how past TV shows used specific anti-Polish sound bites and anti-Polish jokes to condition the public to have anti-Polish sentiments? I can't find mine and since this topic comes up from time to time I think it should be published on the internet. Nobody can read this book and not see that the TV media in the past did indeed use specific Anti-Polish sound bites and "jokes" to condition the public to have a negative opinion of Polish people. That Polish American Guardian Society book should be in the homes of all Polish people as well as anybody else who is interested in how the power of motion pictures and TV can be used to build up or tear down a group of people. Or an indidual, company, nation......you name it.

There is a reason why politicians and large companies spend MILLIONS OF DOLLARS on TV advertising for themselves. Its because IT WORKS. TV imagery both good and bad is very powerful on the human mind in shaping people's opinion on things.

Don't forget in the 60's and 70's there were few TV channels so just ONE TV channel could easily CONDITION the minds of 30, 40, 50 million people at a time with its anti-Polish propaganda.

Fortunately Anti-Polish and other ethnic jokes against anybody today is GENERALLY not in the mainstream media. But when they sometimes do pop up, I think Polish people should speak out against them, the same way other ethnic groups in the US speak out against slurs against them.

USA, Canada / Why are Polish Americans mocked in the American media? [226]

Sometimes elements of the American media can disrespect an ethnic group.

Italian American Groups have protested the portrayal of Italians in the new MTV Show "Jersey Shore". They feel it mocks Italians.

Italian American guy hits Italian American Girl in face
youtube.com/watch?v=vcd2u2gejeY

youtube.com/watch?v=_Un0yTWugew

youtube.com/watch?v=rexAijqKgQI

USA, Canada / Why are Polish Americans mocked in the American media? [226]

Polish-Bashing in the "American" media happened a lot in the 1960's and 70's as far as anti-Polish mocking, as in portraying Polish people as having "inferior intelligence". It then gradually subsided after Polish American groups spoke out against it and people like the Polish pope was in the news.

Anti-Polish bias still exists today, but its nothing like it used to be decades ago.

What kind of mocking are you talking about? Do you have any recent examples?

Also the American media today is a big place. I have noticed that the conservative American media like Talk Radio has been relatively fair to Polish people and from time to time has been nice to Polish people. Like radio talk show host Laura Ingraham (Laura is half Polish) who is not shy about talking about her hard working Polish mother who put her through law school or talk show Host Michael Savage who is not shy about talking about how he likes English Writer "Joseph Conrad" and gives him credit for being one of the greatest English Writers even though English was his second or third language. Michael Savage is not shy about talking about Joseph Conrad's Polish ancestry.

I was pleasantly surprised the other day when I heard former Republican Newt Gingrich plug his Pro-Polish book about the Polish Pope & Poland, on the Sean Hannity Radio talk show (2nd Biggest talk show in the US) as well as plugging it on the O'Reilly Factor which is a popular cable show.

If you go to Youtube and do a search for "Quiet Hero" by Rita Cosby (who is half Polish) you will see the media has been pretty fair to her about her promoting her Pro-Polish book about her father and Poland.

Martha Stewart for years has had her own TV show and was NEVER SHY about talking about her Polish ancestry. She used to have her mom on the show and they always talked up the Polish traditions in their house when she was growing up.

I do agree there still is anti-Polish prejudice in some ELEMENTS of Hollywood and the media. I have talked about this quite a bit in the past. But in fairness, we Poles should also appreciate the positive and fair portrayals of Polish people when we see that as well.

We should always speak out against anti-Polish prejudice in that element of the media when we see it, but ALSO give credit to those elements of the media that have fair and or positive portrayals of Polish people in that part of the media complex.

The media in the US has its bad and good just like anybody else.

As for American Jews in the media, it would NOT be fair to paint them with one brush. I have seen anti-Polish Jewish Americans just like I have seen Jewish Americans who are fair and friendly towards Polish people. I personally like listening to Conservative American Jews on the radio. They seem like good American patriots in my book.

History / Should David Irving, Holocaust denier, be allowed to run tours to Poland? [246]


Chopin was half French yes but Copernicus was not half-German despite the recent German propaganda blitz that he was half-German just because his mother had a German name and spoke German.

My grandmother had a German last name and spoke fluent German but that did not make her German. She was 100% Polish. Poles have a long history of speaking German so its utter nonsense to say that just because somebody had a German name or spoke German, that that gauranteed that they were German. Especially in mixed Polish-German areas.

Copernicus' ethnicity was 100% Polish. In the the general area where the lived which had pockets of Poles and Germans, most of the ethnic Germans went Protestant after Martin Luther was pushing his religion. Most of the Germans back then like today were very ethnocentric and gleefully followed their fellow German Martin Luther. Virtually all of the ethnic Poles DID NOT follow Martin Luther's new religion but virtually every German DID in that area. Copernicus and his entire family fiercely resisted the German Martin Luther's religion (while virtually all the nearby Germans did the opposite) which should say something about Copernicus' ethnic background. Ethnicity had a lot to do with who followed Martin Luther in Copernicus' area.

USA, Canada / Poles and Americans, what do you think, are we friends or enemies? [187]

This is just another silly topic.

Of course the US and Poland are friends even though there have been ups and downs in relations.