History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]

I believe the topic can also include ''What's your vote for the EU membership of Turkey ? and why?

History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]


It is the same for Armenians in 1915 in Ottoman Empire.
But our enemies are trying to call it genocide which is not.

History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]

What about Goths Genocide ?

History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]

Southern,
How many Goths Byzantine Empire killed in Arcadius and 1. Leon times ?
Thousands of Goths were living in Anatolia in that times and because of a Byzantine way of genocide they all killed.

In which way modern Byzantine nation killed their emperor Andronikos Komnenos in Hipodrome? Very barbarous''.

History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]

You have to read my mail # 372. You will understand the issue.

History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]

You don't understand what I say. Saints Cryllius and Methodius are important personalities. But can you say because of them Byzantium Empire did nothing bad to the nations of the countries which she conquered ?

This is the point.

History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]

I will conquer your country, kill you, take your everything but I will spread civilization ok? İt is really very funny.
Like USA say she brings democracy, civilization to Iraq. Iraq nation is very happy that USA brought its civilization and know how to Iraq. Iraq can make her own space program in 20 years :))))

History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]

As a result, Turks in Germany are not like Turks in Turkey and are not like Germans in Germany.

SO THEY CAN BE A BRİDGE BETWEEN GERMANY AND TURKEY.

(This means they have to stay where they are now until look like someone)

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In Turkey, Turks don't behave like this. How Turks chanced so badly has to be investigated. Congratulations Germany. İf you not exagerating, we can't admit this people to Turkey. Because we can't live with them. You say they are Turkish but they don't behave according to Turkish habits.

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EU is not everything for Turkey. But it will benefit to Turkey and Europe both.

From your words, it is very clear that Turks in Turkey and Turks in Europe are not the same. Turks begin to migrate to Europe in 1965. All the migrants were peasants and uneducated. Never see a city other than military obligation for men. Their economic activity was agriculture and raising livestock. In Turkey's GNP agriculture was one the first items in that years.

Almost 45 years past. Turkey and Turkish people changed a lot. High percentage of people are living in big cities, uneducated people are very few. GNP services and industry are ahead, agriculture lower. Dynamic, young population interested about world. High potantial.

How can Turkish people in Europe can not change in 45 years. I don't think it is the fault of Turkish people living in Europe. It is obviously the fault of European Governments for years. They did not think them their people. They seperate them from own people. Then reaction occured in the Turks.

Bradwurst boy says young Turks try to kill an old German who warned them not to smke in the bus. In Turkey if a young man sits in a bus and an old man stands, young man stands up and gives his place to old man. This is a Turkish tradition.

How can a young Turkish man do such a thing in Germany ?

Germans are really guilty. Because they couldn't manage to adopt Turkish people to their community.

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Yes, if Europe is a ''Christain Club'' we will never be in it. Because this means Europe is still managed by religion. In that age it is really funny. And Europe has no future with this point of view.

In Turkey, some of the people trying the same thing. Make Turkey radical islamic. But you see they can't manage. Because in Turkey islamic approach is ; religion is meaningful between one person and God not between two person. But unfortunately Europeans like bratwurst boy is like radical islamics.

The problem is Europeans thinks Turks thinks like themselves about religion but it is wrong. There is a great difference between the Otooman Empire and Turkish Republic. İf you always look 300 years ago you can't see today.

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Southern, you are really a problematic person. Although your knowledge in different areas are high, you can't make healty analysis. Because you are not open minded. You have some obsessions . One of them is ''Turks''


As you know, from the beginning of creation of humankind, humans fight, make wars each other without stoping. Last example USA in Iraq. If a country fells itself strong begins to attack other countries. Byzantium empire was the same, Roma empire was the same. England and France made wars for 100 years. Ottoman Empire was also very strong in that centuries and conquer a lot of country in Europe.

Why you think when Turks conquer your country, it is vandalism ? When Byzantium empire did the same it is not?


This is also same for all conquerers. Indians in USA will laugh you when they remember and compare what they live when the modern European man come to America.


Don't be so sure. There are also analytical thinking people in Europe.

Also, I can't tell I hate Americans, Greeks, Germans, Arabics etc. How can you hate Turks. This is pathetic. One case study : İf Southern is ill and only a Turkish doctor will have to take care of him. What happens ? My answer : Southern rejects Turkish doctor. Because he hates Turks.