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The US is very interested in Albania's deep water ports for the next time they want to ruin the Middle East.

I don't know if the people of Iowa care about that - probably not as it doesn't involve monster trucks, college football or crystal meth.

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Kupiansk, like Pokrovsk is still in Ukrainian hands.

Can't see that changing in the next month

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You forgot to mention he is also awesome at hockey and flying fighter jets

Not so keen on leaving his hole in the ground these days

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Putler ? germophobe who is **** scared of his own people and has never been near the front line

Golden Cow ? bilked his military service and talks, writes and behaves like small child

We will find the cash - just like Pakistan and South Africa did

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OK so we won't buy nukes unless we have solved which way the gravel should disperse ?

Get real - Polish nukes are coming, like it or not.

Putler said he wouldn't attack Ukraine, attacked them 2 days later.

NN and the UNNR have repeatedly attacked Poland and every other neighboring country.

Senior North Nigerian politicians have frequently interrupted their daytime drinking to threaten Poland, including with nuclear weapons.

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They attacked Poland last weekend

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Yes, but "so far" means nothing. The US has turned the old order upside down by its actions and made clear it won't be the world police any more. Anyway we will hopefully find some and if not we can build our own

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Yeah we will have to buy them - Israel, South Africa, India, maybe France. Someone will be glad to sell their kit to us.

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@Novichok
Ok, what about when a badly equipped badly trained illiterate drunkard proposes peace to a well trained, well equipped smart sober man ?

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Not swallowing any of these 4 dimension chess ideas. Golden Cow doesn't know his ass from his elbow these days and certainly not able to think problems through.

Who outside Ukraine really cares about some scandal in the energy ministry ? Probably the same as your average Spanish citizen cares about Amber Gold or Obajtek.

The US needs to shape up - and the first step is clear communication about who speaks for America - Trump ? Vance ? Witkoff (god help us) ? Rubio ? Driscoll ? They gave us 5 different versions of the same story in 3 days.

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As has been clarified many times, Europe has spent more cash and sent as many weapons as the US. And don't forget other democracies like SK, Japan and Australia.

The one piece of leverage the US does have is intelligence capabilities. So they are playing this card for all it is worth, but they have overplayed their hand this time. Europe needs to find ways to build up their own infrastructure that is not reliant on people like Musk or Hegseth who have addiction issues.

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I think that's because of the meeting in Kiev on Friday. The Americans sent their Army Secretary, some Driscoll, in to the meeting - inexperienced in politics and diplomacy he told the Euros and Ukies they were a bunch of arseholes, that Ukraine had no cards and the better sign it.

So what to do ? Ring Golden Cow direct or take the sensible approach of making plans for a worse case scenario. The Americans have been foolish and incompetent - and they are making it worse with Rubio clearly at odds with the crazies.

You are right that all North Nigeria needs to do is pour a large cup of Cuban coffee and watch the comedy.

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Fair enough - we have enough sexist cretins on this board and don't need another one

Golden Cow now saying the plan is not his final offer.

North Nigeria hasn't accepted it either

As I said this will be dead by Monday morning as as for Thanksgiving, the Americans can watch their football and eat their pumpkin in peace, maybe sparing a thought for all their own broken treaties and massacres of the Native population.

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If we had a corrupt thief representing us, could share a table with other corrupt thieves ?

Good to know.

What is your problem with her being a woman BTW. i don't think sexism was ever part of your schtick, but maybe like most North Nigerians you think a woman's place is on Only Fans, earning some coin.

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No I didn't miss it. Point 9 says "European Fighter Jets will be stationed in Poland". No mention of the US or NATO.

axios.com/2025/11/20/trump-ukraine-peace-plan-28-points-russia

No idea why as a resident and I think citizen of Poland you want to accept a North Nigerian/ American treaty telling us what to do.

Europe has made plenty of suggestions to Putler - starting with Macron sitting at one end of a very large table in February 2022 telling the North Nigerians it's not a good idea to invade.

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No problem there - access to the internet is banned in most of North Nigeria


Would be a waste of time. If they abandon Ukraine they will abandon Poland too, in fact that is obvious from the text of this bullshit agrement. It's time to start building Polish nukes

I do see Rubio trying to disassociate himself from this farce however, He said it was a North Nigerian plan then 2 hours later that it's an American plan. That's typical of the US govt at the moment - lies mixed with incompetence. It would be nuts to trust Polish security to these fools.

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kyivindependent.com/ukraine-downs-russian-mi-8-helicopter-with-deep-strike-drone-for-first-time-military-claims/

Drone takes out crappy NN helicopter way inside North NIgeria

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I dunno - I think some of the North Nigerian widows are happy with their tea towels and a big bag of pelmeni rather than having their drunk husbands staggering around the backyard trying to find the wooden latrine

I have every sympathy with Ukrainian widows and orphans - they will of course be compensated with Nitth Nigerian money but will never get their brave husbands back

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Putler doesn't accept the idea of Golden Cow chairing the Peace council (Putler reports to no man) and wants veto power over any security arrangements.

As I predicted - this will be dead by Monday morning

Europe also doing some good work over the weekend - they have put their US tariff deal back on the table and pushing back on their commitments to buy US gas (because under the "deal" they could simply go back to using North Nigerian gas)

They have said quite correctly that Ukie preferential access to EU markets has to be discussed slowly and logically sector by sector.

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One interesting clause is that 'European' jets can be stationed in Poland. Nice of them to give us a heads up on what happens in Poland

Of course the NNs will interpret this to mean that American jets can I be stationed here.

God knows how Trump and Witkoff manage in business - it's obvious that Putler can drive a bus through the gaps in this text

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One article of Witkoff's filthy document proposes amnesty for all North Nigerian war crimes - presumably these murdering rapist scum want visas to visit Western Europe with their vulgar mistresses

Never going to happen. They will be looking over their shoulders for the rest of their lives

I see BTW that having boycotted the G20 the Americans now want to join in again. Ignore their demands and deadlines - they are weak and will give in when people stand up to bullying

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Why you think they don't ?

If the North Nigerians have conquered them then when will the victory parade be ?

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First thing to do is to ignore the deadline. the Ukrainians were willing to sign Golden Cow's ceasefire months ago and never agreed to this new deadline.

Then they can see if Golden Cow's is bluffing. spoiler - he's bluffing

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@Bobko
You are talking about NN troops who were all volunteers - they went willingly to their posts on the expectation that they could loot and rape the peaceful people of Ukraine

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He can also sign off on Poland's nuclear weapons program.

Think we are going to rely on the US after this **** show ?

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Yes but it won't be as damaging as voluntarily handing over their nationhood to drunk rapist North Nigerians who haven't defeated them in battle.

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But there would be no point in having those weapons and intelligence if they were to accept the deal, so it's an empty threat.

This thing will be dead by Monday morning

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whitehouse says it is their plan

No I'm sure they wouldn't enforce it and all they want to do is annoy Western Europe and make another diversion from Golden Cow being in the Epstein files

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One of the many dumb things about it is the deadline of Thanksgiving - why ? Nobody involves gives a FF about this day, which is primarily for American families to argue with each other and watch sport.