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Yes the majority modern jews are normal people.and well intgrated into polish society. However, the commie traitor scum and their descendants who later changed their names to more polosh sounding ones are frauds traitors and not true poles... perhaos at best citizens like me but certainly not blood like the 38 million poles and tens of millions around the world

Anyone who studied polish history from the interwar period polish soviet war ww2 and prl era would know that esp someone whos family lived in all those times. Unlike the vast majority of the libtards here =P

Facts are facts. At most poles killed several hundred to a max of 2k 3k jews following the ala civil war that followed according to nunerous historians. Jewish commoes killed far far more poles then tried to hide their deeds. The polish commie parties alone i believe puk amd pzpr alone were 70% jewish in the early days. Not to mentoon the security ministry, organs like ub and the prison admins, government ministers, etc... all this info is easily accessible online via wiki and essays of numerous historians, books, etc. Have u ever even read jan gross' fear? I have.

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Well biblical law doesnt fly at the un. Palestine was a sovereign country till it was given to the zionist rothschild in exchange for lobbying the us to support britain in ww1. The brits promised the same land to the saudis for helping them against the ottoman. Seems they have a track record of not honoring treaties and agreements.

If 100 is 'too many' than what is the tens of millions killed thanks to marxist-leninist ideology for the most petty of reasons like having a sack of potatoes in the attic or being loyal to your democratically elected government? What about tens of thousands actual poles killed by their supposed 'fellow polish jews' who chose to ally with an invading army and take up aggressive ideologies like marxism-leninism despite the help given to them?

Poland should've kicked the known traitors out after their collaboration with the invading bolsheviks in the polish soviet war. If they liked the commie ussr so much amd swooned over trotsky lenin marx and half the generals in ussr then they shouldnt left poland which the majority despised. Pilsudzki shouldve rounded up all these traitors and collaborators and forced them to leave for good. The polish government and military knew the extent of collaboration with the ussr during the polish soviet war and interwar period. Yet theyd get short prison sentences and go right back to attempting to overthrow the democratically elected polish government.

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If killing polish people, the most patriotic bravest souls from my motherland tens if not hundreds of thousands of whom risked their own lives to help the local jews - from ak members to peasants to generals to mere government in exile clerks, makes them 'more polish' than im glad you feel that way. Id never want to be grouped with backstabbers who kill their neighbors even after helping them and ally with an arch nemesis over a few rubles and a job. True poles would never sell out their countrymen and actually all of poland, to the ussr and to top it off kill their fellow poles by the tens of thousands.

This law is the first step in setting the record straight. Hopefully now patriotic groups and patriotic media outlets can take the opportunity to expose the extent of collaboration between so called polish jews and the ussr commies. There is no need to lie or embellish as theres tons of evidence and facts. Although polish adults, especially the older generations are aware of the horrible backstabbing of the motherland during these times, the youth are not. They must be educated on the fact that despite hundred of thousands if not millions of polish peoplebhelping local jews, majority of whom were totally unassimilated and didnt even speak polish let alone look or act polish not to mention the death penalty for helping jews - of whom thousands of poles received bc they wete caught helping or lying on behalf of jews, the majority of so called polish jews nonetheless backstabbed poland by fighting against the ak, killing thousands of its members, ran prison camps (morel) where poles from civilians to generals were executed, kangaroo courts (michnik) that killed poles even when the ussr didnt specifcially order ir, the UBs brutal oppression of mostly innocent poles, and immediately set upon killing poles esp ak members even though rhey helped jews through organizations like zegota, etc...

They must learn of this treachery and backstabbing so that history doesnt repeat itself a 3rd time - once during polish soviet war and interwar years and a second during and after ww2.

And to anyone who keeps insisting these so called polish jews are poles - they are not. Aside from the fact that they lived on polish lands and hence had pl/partition countrys citizenship, mainly in exclusively jewish areas there is nothing polish about most of them. The fact is that the majority of so called polish jews before and during ww2 most didnt speak or write polish, did not associate with poles, have little to no actual polish blood amd if they did itd only be due to miscegenation, did not participate in polish society or institutions instead going to yeshivas and parallel jewish institutions and even fought against poland and its institutions and people, did not dress, behave let alone look like poles, did not assimilate into polish society, and quite frankly the only contact they had with poles is if a pole went into their jewish quarter to buy something from one of their stores. The center of their lives were torah talmud organization which were the leaders of these jewish areas - not a polish mayor or something, no they had a rabbi instead.

Most of them didnt even know the words to mazurek dabrowski.... let alone how to sing it... but of course theyre the best poles that have ever lived on polish land... pffttt .... just bc you were born or live in poland or any country for that matter doesnt make you of that ethnicity. Theres plenty of white dutch people who were born and lived in rhodesia yet few would say their ethnicity is african or specifically Zimbabwean. Thats like saying johnny is jamaican because he lives there or saying that my chinese friend is of canadian ethnicity/descent because he was born and brought up in Vancouver... jews living in poland never were polish by descent or ethnicity save for some instances of miscegenation - which im sure the rabbi leader had a field day schooling a jew on sleeping with a shikza (the jewish word for a goy woman - implies *****, even used in polish today due to yiddish influence but has a different meaning

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It is well known that jews have created both zionism and communism specifically bolshevism, trotskyism, marxism, leninism, etc. These ideologoes that jews created and helped spread have resulted in the deaths of exponentially more people than nazism or any other nationalist ideology. That is fact - indeed marxism leninism trotskyism, all subsets of socalism/communism, are named after their jewish creators.

Time and time again ziomist jews have pushed for one ideology for goys but the opposite for israel.

Even today i say a sign on some jewish center which said something about blacks and jews fighting together for equal human rights. Yet rhe majority of isreali jews, who are overwhemingly zionist, advocate for the deportation of african refugees... eveb legit refugees from eritrea, sudan, etc.

And since you stooped to insults, ill retort. I know its difficult for you to process facts which dont conveniently fit into your illogical liberal worldview. Care to offer a counter argument explaining how zionism leninism marxism etc arent jewish inventions responsible for the deaths of hundred of millions? Perhaps you should read zionism vs bolshevism by churchill since you fail to understand how one nation, jews specificakky, spread both zionism and communism - zionism to for themselves, communism for the goys.

Its time the jews pay up for what israel, zionists, and jewish communists have brought upon the world. If germany france switzerland can be collectively punished and exorted, so should the jewish people or at the very least israel

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Of course. And those jews in pl are far more assimilated than those living in pl during ww2. Most of them now have mixed polish jewish blood esp as after the 60s jews esp zionists tried ro hide their identity through name changes, marrying christian poles, converting or pretending to, etc.

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If poles should feel collectively responsible for pogroms like in kielce or jedwabne, then jews should also feel collectively responsible for the murders of ak members, generals, and even civilians as well as spreading aggressive bolshevism/communism, zionism, bombing schools and hospitals, massacring students walking out of their university, etc. But of course that wouldnt make any sense to blame a whole nation for what a minority did. If it was a majority okay fine but even then it doesnt mean 100% participated.

Perhaps jews specifically zionists and israel should do the right thing and pay reparations to all the people theyve harmed. Afterall, germany, france, switzerland and several others already had their citizens collectively extorted. Jewish inventions of marxism, leninism, trotskyism, and communism killed hundreds of millions of people - far more than nazism and any nationalist movements. Perhaps its time the jews collectivelt pay for the ideologies fellow jews created, instilled, and enforced through terror, murder, starvation, mass killings, shallow graves, ethnic cleansing, etc. Funny, because israel and its zionists still partake in such activities to this very day. Oh how quick the persecuted became the aggressor...

Its high time for israel to part with a few billion shekels...., or at the very least leave all illegally occupied lands and compensate those whos homes were bulldozed and families killed in ethnic cleansing campaigns to makr way for settlers. Indeed, the palestinians refer to the zionists livinf in illegal settlements and the idf soldiers (who protect their behinds as theyre too cowardly to walk the streets without their protection) as the occupation. Even politicians refer to the settlers thay way and it is a very accurate name - even the un calls the palestine campaigns occupation, ethnic cleansing, illegal, etc.

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Did you really expect different from Zionist Israelis?


Hasn't stopped them from trying to sue Poland as a nation numerous times.

This is how the Jews looked in Poland -

jewishsphere.com/JewishCustoms/JewishCustomsPoland.htm
kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/sanok/l
rarehistoricalphotos.com/daily-life-warsaw-ghetto-1941
pinterest.com/pin/229191068507624816

Clearly not the definition of assimilation - most Jews didn't speak Poland, were not integrated into Polish society, did not attend Polish schools, and the more religious ones would purposely go out of their way to avoid goys - unless it's to of course harm, kill, steal, etc.as the Talmud commands.

Now how could a Pole possibly hide any of the people in the above photographs? If it wasn't the distinct facial features like the nose, eyes, curly hair, etc. that'd give them away, it'd be their lack of polish - and even if they knew polish (which most didn't) their hardcore Yiddish accent would immediately give them away. And if all that failed a quick check of a man's member would be the ultimate test as Poles aren't circumcised. Not one person the above photographs even looks remotely Polish.

These people were not Poles in any way, shape, or form as they didn't speak Polish, didn't have Polish blood, didn't assimilate into Polish culture, and most importantly the majority fought AGAINST Poland and its legitimate government and the armies it commanded. Poles do not fight against their own people and country.


Good. Let them know that Poland doesn't appreciate their meddling and they're not going to write our laws for us. The least Poland and Poles as a people can do is spit in their collective faces for what most of them (not all of course) did to our heroes and their betrayal of the AK by siding with the commie USSR and even before that the Bolsheviks.

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That's because no one wanted to help them. Even when Pole (think his name was Karski or Krasinki or something) went around the US going from politicians to military figures to even Hollywood and explained how the jews were being treated they simply didn't believe him. Or, they simply didn't care. Don't forget that America refused refuge to Jews up until the very end of the war. America didn't want to be dragged into the war just like they didn't want to be dragged into WW1 although the balfour declaration changed that, but that's another story.

If anything, we Poles were the one of the very few nations that actually helped them from the very beginning. And what do we get in return? Our most patriotic soldiers and officers from the AK killed... the same organization that set up Zegota to help the Jews and raise awareness.. This is why the whole topic of Polish-Jewish relations during WW2 and the early PRL years is such a touchy subject for both Poles and Jews.

As far as USA, today Jews who receive holocaust reparations are able to deduct that from their taxes. Blacks receiving reparations from slavery, victims of commie regimes, and anyone else receiving reparations all are unable to - only Jewish holocaust survivors are able to.


Supposedly the majority of holocaust survivors living in Israel are pretty poor. They likely received tens of thousands of dollars, but certainly not hundreds or millions..

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Well the court systems, the UB, indeed all the state organs that had the power of life and death over people were disproportionately jews. The sad thing is, oftentimes Stalin and his regime only singled out the top echelons of the AK to be killed. But the Jews weren't satisfied with just killing a few dozen, or even few hundred of the top leaders... No they wanted thousands upon thousands of dead goys.


The sad thing is that most young Poles aren't aware of all this - the older generations are but so much of this has been glossed over, perhaps intentionally. An information campaign explaining the facts (no need for embellishments or exaggerations, there's plenty of facts) behind zydokomuna, the collaboration between soviets and 'polish' jews, the UB and courts crimes against Poles, etc is desperately needed. Most Poles believe that it was all Soviets doing this to Poles. The reality is that the 'polish' jews were the ones carrying out the killings - a lot of which weren't even ordered by the soviets yet they felt like killing the most patriotic Poles, AK members, and even average poles - especially if they wanted to appropriate their house, or farm, or merely out of sheer hatred for Polish Catholics, despite the fact that Poles tried to help them in countless ways. That meant nothing to the communist Jews or Zionist though, they just wanted to kill Polish goys and instill a reign of terror which the vast majority of Polish survivors will tell you was 100x worse than what the Nazis did to them.

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The UB, who's leadership was at least 50% filled by Jews, arrested 300,000 Poles and killed 6,000 which were deemed to be AK members. If this is the thanks Communist Jews and Zionists give to Poles who actually risked their life for them, imagine what they'd do to a Pole who does something bad to them?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zgoda_labour_camp - run by Commie Jew Morel
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Public_Security_(Poland)#Soviet_control_and_political_penetration - run by Commie Jew Berman

Bastard escaped to Israel who REFUSED to extradite him even though he was directly responsible for killing at least 1,000 people
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armia_Ludowa
'Jewish partisans instead more often joined the Armia Ludowa of the communist Polish Workers' Party and Soviet guerrilla groups, which increasingly clashed with Polish guerillas, contributing to yet another perception of Jews working with the Soviets against the Poles'

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanis%C5%82aw_Radkiewicz another Jewish hater who loved to destroy churches
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Ochab - another Zionist scum who sold Poland out to the Soviet Jews

but of course no such thing as zydokomuna....

Hopefully Poland will one day finally create a museum or day of remembrance to all those who suffered due to the Jewish/Zionist collaboration with the Soviets. While yes, there were Jews who supported the AK - I'm not denying that. Nonetheless, the majority sided with commies and Soviets.


Indeed. He was klled by Jew Helena Wolniska-Brus and other Jewish collaborator scumbags. This must've been a nightmare for him. Being such a patriot trying to save Jews yet he's prosecuted by a Jewish prosecutor, sentenced by Jewish judge Maria Gurowska, and sent to a prison system run by Jews like Morel...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helena_Woli%C5%84ska-Brus
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Gurowska

This is what Poland helped the Jews for? To have our most patriotic AK members killed? NEVER AGAIN!

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Yet they couldn't even fill that.... there were at most 5k Jewish officers in Polish forces. The reason why is because the majority of Jews were not on the side of the legit Polish government and the AK. The two Jewish groups fighting under AK command were tiny. The largest Jewish group was the AL which first fought against Nazis and later turnbed their guns on Poles and AK members - as directed by the Jewish commie leaders in PL and those in Moscow.

The truth is when the Soviets came in from the east they were welcomed by the Jews, especially as communism was the prevalent ideology especially amongst intellectual Jews. The Communist Party of Poland had a lot of Jews in it, not to mention the AL. While the USSR brought communism into Poland and established a puppet regime, the Jews certainly helped them a ton in their efforts. They were the foot soldiers and administrators of the commies - killing Poles as they saw fit especially AK members. Even the Bund and Zionists (despite Zionism being against Commie ideology) were far more loyal to the soviet commies than the Polish state. They straight up COLLABORATED with the soviets to take over Poland and had NO QUALMS about it - even though the AK/Zegota helped them against the Nazis. The jews, as a reward for their loyalty in suppressing Poles fighting for freedom from both Nazis and USSR, wre given high positions in schools, PZPR party and PL government, and especially the UB and as prison officials. Hence, zydokomuna - which is no fairy tale. A Jew, Berman was responsible for overseeing propaganda and the implementation of communism - which the Jews were more than happy to bring about.

Here is some info on Berman - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakub_Berman for every one famous person like Berman, there were tens of thousands of communist Jews that were more than happy to kill AK members, steal average Poles' homes and property, all with the approval of their commie bosses and UB which was disproportionally run by Jews (along with the government as a whole). Anyone who argues that zydokomuna was not the reality in Poland after the soviet invasion and the early years of PRL clearly don't know about Polish history during this time period.

They sold Poland and the AK out - plain and simple. Every Pole must be aware of this collaboration with the Soviets and betrayal of Poland and AK, despite their help. If they were true patriots and cared about Poland they would've fought against the Soviets - not collaborated with them to murder thousands of Poles. The fact is they killed scores of patriots fighting on their behalf and setting up zegota to save their sorry jewish asses, all because the soviets promised them money and power plus they already had an inclination to communism and hatred towards Poles for whatever reason. Polish historian Chodakiewicz explains that thousands of Poles were killed by the Jews alone - not counting the tens of thousands the soviets killed i.e. katyn, gulags, exile to Siberia, etc. The historian explains that Jewish admins and officials later adopted new Polish-sounding names to cover their murderous tracks and appear as a poor innocent jewish ww2 survivor who would never betray someone fighting to save their life - which many continue to have to this day - for example politician Dorn, which was previously called Dornbaum.

Indeed, this section of Churchill's essay can also be applied to the Jewish subversion of Polish society during and after WW2:

fpp.co.uk/bookchapters/WSC/WSCwrote1920.html

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You too if you were a polish ww2 survivor would also say that the treatment under the Nazis was far far better than that under the Soviets, UPA, or the UB agents that terrorized anyone who fought on behalf of the legit Polish government and the armies (AK/NSZ) that they commanded - which helped jews in numerous ways.

Wouldn't you too be upset? You help a group of people, the jews, then they turn around and join the enemy and after the war kill people who served in the army that did the most out of anyone to help the jews?


They didn't really kill Russians - if anything they were allied with the Russians/soviets. The jews killed Poles I believe either for 'revenge' or simply because the soviet establishment told them to eliminate any threats to the communist system, which Jews overwhelmingly supported over the legit democratic government in exile. They performed the soviets' orders with brutal efficiency murdering thousands of AK fighters who had helped them even as recently as months or year before. I believe for most Jews it was a mix of desiring power and taking revenge - it's likely that the soviets propagated things like that the AK killed Jews (which the NSZ actually did but AK did not) to help convince the Jewish UB agents, judges, etc. that they were doing a good thing. The fact that they were already leaning more towards the commie governments certainly helped them believe that they were doing the right thing.

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yes, it's unfair as there's plenty of jews, muslims, blacks, etc. that aren't like that. nonetheless, when some action that relates to a stereotype is constantly repeated, well then that idea/stereotype is continually reinforced. break the stereotypes, change peoples' opinions, and hten gradually such stereotypes will disappear.


Aboslutely. And I've repeated this numerous times on the forum to our friends here that reside in Poland. Go ask a bunch of WW2 survivors - soldiers, civilians, whoever. I guarantee you the vast majority will tell you, as certain members did here as well, that the treatment under the Nazis was FAR BETTER for the average Pole than under the Red Army, NKVD, and collaborators like UB


When Nazis come into a village and give adults bread and milk, and chocolate to the kids, don't destroy anyone's homes, while Jews hiding in the forest loot their homes whenever the residents were gone, soviets come in and burn homes, rape wives and daughters, and steal everything inside of the home and then even after the war UB agents come and kill people accusing them of being in the AK - who had helped jews thoughotu the war in numerous ways - and this type of story is repeated over and over and over gain by Polish ww2 survivors, what would you think?

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The difference is during the Polish-Soviet war, true Poles meaning Polish Christians by blood and not paper and ink mostly fought on the side of Poland. The Jews, especially the intellectuals, overwhelmingly supported the Bolsheviks - who's leadership and generals were also disproportionately Jewish. The Jewish Bolsheviks sat in the Kremlin giving orders, the Bolshevik goys were cannon fodder.


The Jews themselves CHOSE not to assimilate - just as countless migrants CHOOSE not to assimilate into European society today. They could've gone to Polish schools, learned Polish, dressed like Poles but they chose not to - they instead went to yeshivas, only hung out with other jews (the Talmud states that Jews shouldn't even sit at the same table as goys), and primarily spoke Yiddish, not Polish. At best, Polish was a second language to the Jews living in Warsaw and Lodz and even those who did speak some Polish spoke with a very heavy Yiddish accent.


Which is partially the Jews' fault. It's the same with blacks in the us or muslims in Europe. If blacks didn't commit so many crimes and were responsible for the vast majority of murders, then cops wouldn't be so jumpy. If the majority of black areas in the US weren't havens for open air drug markets, then people wouldn't automatically have the picture of a barren poverty stricken wasteland in their mind whenever someone says 'black neighborhood' - you don't think of beautiful homes and carefully manicured lawns when someone says 'black neighborhood.' it's just the way it is... and it's up to both blacks and the rest of society to change that. same with muslims. If muslims didn't commit so many terror attacks, so many rapes, etc. then the Europeans would be more welcoming. In the same sense if the Jews didn't have the stereotypes of clannish, non assimilated plotters and usurers, then perhaps Europeans wouldn't of kicked them out of over 100 different countries.

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Some Poles DID assist the Nazis - so did Jews.... Some people were all too happy to extort Jews (known as szmalcowcy) or turn them in to the Nazis for money. Everytime Israel brings up Polish crimes against the Jews or any perceived collaboration, it is the duty of Poles to point out that Jews too collaborated with Nazis and even more so the communists. They backstabbed the very same group, the AK, who had set up Zegota which was an organization specifically designed to help save Jews and indeed saved thousands of them. The AK also tried to liberate the Warsaw Ghetto and blow up the walls but was thrwarted by the Nazis. Despite the AK's heroism and high death toll in operations specifically designed to help the Jews, the Jews decided to kill AK members anyway. Poles must point out that Jews were all too quick to join the commie ussr backed AL and Red Army as well as occupy the ranks of the UB and commie kangaroo courts, which sentenced countless AK soldiers who had just a few years ago risked their lives to help Jews. That doesn't matter to such Jews though - they just wanted power and money and the USSR gave it to them. People like Morel and Michnik betrayed the same people and groups who had saved Jews just years before. It mattered nothing to them. They wanted to kill AK members despite the sacrifices of this group, and kill they did - thousands upon thousands of AK members including top generals who sent their own men to die just to help Jews.

This is the kind of thanks that Poland gets from Israel.... What's the moral of the story? If this ever happens again, don't help the Zionists because if they're given a license to kill years down the line they'll just end up killing you anyway, regardless of your own sacrifices and heroism trying to help them.


Of course there were - as I wrote above. Nonetheless, the majority of Jews living in Poland were not assimilated into Polish society. They set up their own parallel institutions in their own neighborhoods, which Poles permitted and would even frequent for shopping. Most, again not all, Jews did not speak Polish - they spoke Yiddish, especially in the Jewish quarters of Warsaw and Lodz. This is one of the reasons why it made it so difficult to hide Jews as so many simply didn't speak Polish and looked straight up Jewish.

Imagine you're a Pole and hiding a young Jewish boy. A Nazi comes in and even if that boy speaks perfect Polish, you insist that he's your nephew or son or whatever, so the Nazi asks the boy to pull his pants down - instant giveaway. If their schmekel didn't ultimately give them away, their hard Yiddish accent, curly hair, appearance, etc. would first.

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That is up for debate. Whether he was ambivalent or not cannot be determined as he is dead. As a general, I highly doubt he took cowardice and desertion lightly. That's the worst thing a soldier could do is desert. It's one thing to disobey an order, a totally different thing to desert/go AWOL.

He likely didn't pursue them because they were in Palestine when they deserted - foreign territory to say the least. Plus, it is likely the British told them not to pursue their deserters as afterall they had been kissing Zionist ass ever since the balfour declaration decades before. Palestine was already technically British territory as the balfour declaration was signed during ww1. Anders likely didn't bother to pursue them because either he was told by the brits not too (likely after Zionist intervention) or he thought it was more important to focus on the upcoming battles than chasing a few thousand Jews in a foreign territory owned by the british thousands of miles away from home.

The sad thing is that Israel made a monument that honors these deserters and heros.. pathetic...

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Soviets encouraged Jews to join the AL and Red Army. With the exception of the Polish II Corps which had very limited support from the Soviets aside from being given safe passage so they could link up with the Brits, the Soviets despised any Polish force that was loyal to the government in exile. It would make no sense for the Soviets to tell the commie leaning Jews to join an army that was under the command of a rival. Instead, they encouraged them to join the commie ussr-backed AL.

The jews of course would later turn on Poles - especially AK/NSZ soldiers who had just recently set up Zegota just to help the Jews. The majority of Jews loyalties' did not lie to Poland. It was first Israel and other Jews followed by commie groups whether it be the AL, Red Army, or later UB which gave them a license to kill which they definitely took advantage of to kill real patriotic Poles - the AK - not some foreign commie group of thieves and rapists (the amount of rapes of Polish women by the commie Red Army is staggering) like the AL or Red Army.

What Poland needs to do is carefully research the crimes i.e. murders of AK members by Jews. The world needs to know the scale of the atrocities communist Jews committed against the most patriotic Poles. Every Polish child ought to learn the true history of the Jew's betrayal of Poland and the AK fighting on both Poles' and Jews' behalf by collaborating with the Soviets. The Zionists want to talk about how Poles collaborated with the Nazis and harmed Jewish people, perhaps we should talk about Jewish collaboration with commies and Red Army and how the Jews killed thousands of AK members and ordinary Poles in the immediate years following WW2.

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Yes and no. The largest Jewish populations lived in Warsaw and Lodz. Lodz is still like the 'Jewish capital' of Poland. There were some jews that lived out in the countryside prior to the war and a lot of the city dwellers moved out to the countryside at the outbreak of the war. They would hide in forests and would loot and pillage villagers' homes. The AK was sent into numerous towns to do patrol due to all the jews that would plan hit and run attacks on peasants.

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You realize that austria and germany were 2 out of the 3 partition powers? And to my understanding reform judaism is a much more recent movement.

The jews had equal rights as poles ever since they begged to be let in. There were laws against forced baptisms for example under penalty of death. In the 1900s jews continued to have the same rights, arguably more than poles. They were free to establish their own parallel structures like schools, leadership councils, etc. They operated as a sort of jewish state within a polish state with near full autonomy. If a jew wanted to go to a polish school or join the polish military or government, they could. If they wanted to instead go to a yeshiva and study to become a rabbi they could as well.

Actually the partition powers took away much of those freedoms as they launched a campaign to either russify or germanify all those living in poland - including jews. However, even at that time there was a disproportionate amount of jewish judges, prosecutors, etc in germany so in a lot of cases they remained free to live as they felt.

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Depends on the jews. To this day some jews in new york still dont have wifi in their homes and only stick around their own kind. The west was more cosmopolitan and wealthy than poland thus allowing the jews to apply the same types of usury on a larger scale as they had for centuries which is the primary eason why they were kicked out of every european country, not because of racist catholics believing in blood libel. They applied the same tactics and set up the federal reserve in the early 1900s i believe 1914. This gave them defacto control of us ever since. Indeed, rothschild leveraged such connections to drag us into ww1 after being promised palestine by the brits. Ever since the creation of the zionist run fed the value of the dollar has declined, gold standard was eliminated amd even made illegal at one point, and to this very day the fed is disproportionately run by zionist jews. Nearly every fed president since its inception was a zionist jew as well. Later came other zionist scams like the war on terror to further dupe americans of more shekels to be sent to israel - which receives more money from the us than the entire african continent despite being far poorer.

As the zionist jew rothschild once said - give me control of a nations money and i care not who makes the laws

Its the same tactics in poland, only instead they used the soviets to help them gain power and take over the most inportant institutions like the ub which gave them a license to kill, and kill they did - thousands upon thousands of ak members who had set up zegota just years before specifically to help polands jews. That did not matter to the commie zionist jews who betrayed poland, granted they had little to no loyalty to begin with, but certainly zero gratitude for the same peoples who had helped them.

It od course wasnt all jews. 100% did not join the soviet backed organizations like al or join the red army. However, the amount of jews who did fight alongside the ak, polish ii corps, etc were a minority. And out of those who did fight, most deserted esp out of the polish ii corps. And no, it wasnt that polish officers let them go awol or desert, they simply didnt pursue them as they were already in anotger continent and were more focused on the future battles at hand.

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@Atch

Why? As i explained before they were a foreign presence. They are not poles by blood and felt little loyalty and patriotism for thr country. Not all of course as yes there were jewish soldiers but most jews had a feeling of somewhere between neutral to hatred toward poland. They came to polamd begging to be let in after every other country kicked them out ans they had nowhere to go. Just like the parasitic migrants coming to europe today, they too did not assimilate. They set up their ghettos, spoke yiddish not polish which most didnt bother to learn, and attended yeshivas not polish grade schools or high schools. Furthermore, and i think this is the most important, jews leaned towards communism as it was esp popular in intellectual circles. Indeed most of tge figures in the bolshevik revolution were jews like trotsky, lenin, etc. This is why jews were so quick to ally with ussr and kill ak members.

And so it remains to this day with zionists siding with far left commies to help them establish a new world order. Luckily iran russia amd china has thrown a monkey wrench in their plans.

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They deserted because 3/4 were too cowardly to continue on and fight alongside the british. They preferred to stay in palestine and lay the groundwork for future ethnic cleaning campaigns. Israelis are only courageous when they have guns and tanks and their opponents are palestinian teens armed with slingshots and rocks

Most so called polish jews didnt even speak polish. The majority had absolutely no loyalty to the legit government or the polish state. They were all too quick to side with the soviets and ussr backed AL amd red army almost immediately after the invasion. Most politically active jews were commie sympathisers and regularly sabotaged and informed upon polish operations even in the polish aoviet war. After the war, the surviving jews that remained in poland took their rage upon average poles and ak patriots who risked their neck. Due to much soviet bootlicking, they were given positions in the ub, nkvd, as prison admins, etc which they promptly used to kill real polish patriots and real soldiers from the ak and nsz. Facts are facts. For every few hundred jewish officers killed in katyn there were thousands of jews who killed ak and nsz members.

The jews were aware of zegota and the aks help towards esp warsaw jews. That doesnt matter to the jew or zionist. As the talmud says, ally with those who are helping you then turn on them when the time comes. Amd the jews did just that by slaughtering scores of ak members. And they knew all about the talmuds teachings considering jews didnt go to polish schools, no they went to yeshivas. If they knew polish itd be easier to hide them but when you have some dude with curly hair around his ears he cant speak the native tongue... well what do you expect

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Not exactly. They werent the largest civilian group as there were far more soviet and chinese civilian deaths. In fact the amount of germans and poles who perished is closer to the amount of jews. But where are the billions going towards poles, soviets, chinese, etc? Where are the annual hollywood movies portraying the struggle of poles or even soviet citizens? Where is the ukranian or hungarian equivalent of the fraudster elie wesel? Why isnt katyn watched all over the us including in colleges but yet movies like schindlers list are?

Its high time to focus on the tens of millions of others who perished. The jews already received enough of the spotlight and more than enough billions - a lot of which was based on fraudulent cases as the number of holocaust claims to receive money filed by jews exceeds the number that actuallt died.

Well this is just the first of hopefullt many more steps to finally set the record straight and let the woeld know that jews werent the only civilian victims and in fact arent even the largest group.

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Oh and as far as so called jewish soldiers serving in the polish forces, out of 4k jews all but 1k deserted the polish ii corps. Some soldiers rofl. One of the yellow cowards would end up being pm of israel.

@Dougpol1
Well if wr didnt do such research then wed still believe that 4 mil jews were killed at Auschwitz and not the now recognized figure of 1 million. The earlier exaggeration was clearly political and actuallt the original figures cited in the 50s was millions more. Such moves are just one step to destroy the holocaust industry and challenge the zionists claims. No more focusing only on jewish victims and more focus on the tens of millions of others who perished. Theres no reason for israel and jews to be thought of as the only victim or even the largest group of ww2 victims.

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Not just that. They'd also have to learn to respect countries' sovereignty and not become involved in domestic political affairs. The average European views the purpose of the EU as a mainly economic and social institution that's supposed to bring the economies and societies of the EU nations closer together. However, the EU quickly started pushing far left wing agendas. Tens of millions of Europeans are very much against that - and it's not just right wingers and nationalists. Libertarians, centrists, and even quite a few people on the left feel the same way. Poles are sick and tired of having to abide by ridiculous dictates by the German dominated Brussels. Poles feel as if even though Germany caused a ton of problems during WW1 and WW2 and surrendered, they've ended up becoming the bully in Europe again. However, now instead of panzers and stukas they have dictates.

Want to stop the rise of the right and far right all over Europe? Simple - stop pushing far left dictates and forcing countries to take in people they don't want. Stop telling them how to run their court system. Stop pushing gay and tranny propaganda literally encouraging kindergarteners to dress up in different genders' clothing and play drag queen. Stop trying to dilute each nation's culture and Christianity. Then the left and right will be able to get along and you won't have things like Brexit, the rebellion of the V4 against Brusells, rise of the AfD, etc. Although, it's probably too late for that. Thanks to Merkel and the libtards in the EC and EP, Europe has faced a literal deluge of migrants from every sh1t hole country known to man. This is going to change the demographics forever. Well, we don't want that in Poland and neither do the citizens of many other European countries. We're not going to become Germany France or Sweden and have no-go zones surrounding our capital, were not going to allow Islamic terror attacks and preachers who praise things like suicide bombings and call for a total invasion of Europe and forced conversions. Yet despite all the problems they've caused, the left continues to apologize for the migrant crimes and rationalize all the terrible things that have happened ever since Merkel opened the floodgates.


America has given billions to Africa. Well, since it's such a corrupt sh1thole most of that money was stolen by politicians and military officers. The Chinese are making greater in roads than anyone else. The reason why is instead of giving donations and hence causing the country to eventually become reliant on donations giving them no incentive to develop the country and clean up corruption, the Chinese instead built infrastructure, mines, factories, etc. THis is a WAY better long term strategy and the US should've done the same. Instead of repeatedly giving donations, it's not only more economical to build a factory or set up a gold mind and give Africans work at such a facility so they can feed themselves. Mugabe eventually relented and allowed the plantation owners to return - but not to become owners again and merely manage the farms. Meanwhile, Mugabe and his wife Gucci Grace travel around the world and spend hundreds of thousands on shopping trips in France - all money stolen from plantation owners and donations from western governments - which UK has cut off because of Mugabe's behavior. Thank goodness he's finally gone now. Although, it is highly likely that another guy that's just as corrupt will take his place and perhaps be even worse. Such is the story of sub Saharan Africa.

On the note of Zimbabwe, when Europeans ruled the country it's economy was in an infinitely better stage. Zimbabwe, aka Rhodesia, use to be the bread basket of Africa. Europeans knew how to run it and hence the average wages went way up, there were tons of exports especially food, unemployment was low, etc. But what happened? Mugabe and his African generals screwed it all up. They simply don't know how to run a country. Immediately the country went into a recession, Mugabe flat out stole the best plantations to give to himself and friends, and the country went from being a major food exporter to not only importing food - but relying on donations of food so the people don't starve. That is how so many pathetic African leaders are and very few actually care about their people. It's the same story with South Africa which use to be very prosperous. Poles even went there in the 70s and 80s for work. However, now the country is messed up, has among the highest violent crime rates in the world, upper middle class people have to live around barbed wire and armed security all the time, and the government is dominated by nepotism and corruption. This isn't what Mandela had in mind that's for sure.

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Well, numerous historical events and documents as well as powerful political groups show otherwise - from the balfour declaration to the odin yinon plan to the numerous Zionists lobbies which totally control the us to the secret alliances between groups left, right (like EDL, breitbart, etc), and center, etc and especially the Talmud which clearly explains the mindset of the supremacist Zionist. Also, the dancing mossad guys and spies captured on g.w. bridge after 9/11, the numerous incursions into sovereign countries like Iraq, Syria, etc., the public announcement by an Israeli PM who stated that goys only exist to serve Jews - yea all those things cause people to believe that yes, Jews or more specifically Zionists are carefully subverting societies to get their way.


Kind of like how today Israel is destroying people's homes, setting up settlements deemed illegal by the UN, having a secret weapons program and refusing to allow UN inspectors, bombing schools and hospitals in Gaza, West Bank and occasionally Lebanon, etc. They turned from persecuted to persecutor VERY quickly

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Its part that, but really its a message. The message and symbolism behind the law are more important imo than the law itself. It tells the world this is poland, hands off - poles make their own decisions and laws and we dont want any outside interference whether it be from israel or the eu.

The truth is poles and jews got along great at the beginning of the war. However by 1941 1942 the relationship changed drastically due to all the jews gradually siding with the red army amd ussr whilst rejecting the legit government and AK. The AL, a pro commie pro ussr force, had far more jews in it than the ak or the nsz, although with nsz its understandable why jews didnt join. Many of those al jews would later end up in the ub, killing AK/NSZ members and collaborated with the soviet administrators following the red army helping usher in the prl. Its likely that poland wouldve become a satellite nation either way, but the jews serving in al, red army, etc certainly helped bring it about. People like the so called 'polish jews' like michbik and morel were more than happy to enforce ussrs desires and kill polish ak soldiers. A real pole would never do that - he would never kill ak members as they are patriots of the highest order to actual poles by blood, not ink and paper. Poles and so called polish jews fought against each other for decades up until 1967 when many left or changed their names to more polish sounding ones. Poles ought to be united whether jew or christian, but the jews didnt want that and sided with stalin and the ussr. Oh but these jews are real poles right - the most patriotic people poland ever had, yet they killed true poles like ak generals who helped their sorry ass at the start of the war. Not all, but a significant portion (majority) sided with ussr. They were soooo polish that they had no problem siding with polands nemesis at the drop of a hat.

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Awwww did duda hurt your feelings?? U zionist b1tches never fight your own battles. Even this time you had to call in the us crying for help (much like you did to poland begging to be let in centuries ago because no other european country wanted you guys) but even rex tillerson and the zionist occupied government of USA couldnt help you. Perhaps this will set a new precedent of countries standing up to israel. Perhaps one day syria will liberate the golan, lebanon will come in from the north (you already lost against them before, so you had to retalliate by bombing lebanese schools and hospitals) iran will occupy the knesset building, and palestinians can finally have THEIR land back.

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In any case, duda signed so its poland 1, israel 0

Everyone knows this law really isnt about some phrase. Its about nationalism and standing up to israel/jews with a clear message - Polska dla Polakow!!! This government and its supporters arent going to take **** from anyone - especially israel or some jews meddling in polish affairs.

I give duda a standing ovation - he managed to **** off israel, defend polish pride and dignity, and get rid of one of the biggest zionists in pl - the israeli ambassador.

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So it's been established that yes, some poles did kill jews during ww2, absolutely and no one is denying that. However there were no death camps set up by poles. What would be interesting is if we conducted research on the poles that were killed by jews such as those in AL, UB, etc. We know of the many murders of AK leaders killed by jews such as michnik, but we dont know how many rank and file ak members were killed. It has to be in the thousands if not tens of thousands. That would be interesting to research. Perhaps one day such studies and research will be undertaken. All poles know about the atrocities committed by jews following ww2, but we do not have a good estimate of the deaths.

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First off hopefully id never do something that isnt in thr interest of Polish Christians (aka true Poles by blood, not a piece of paper) or the Polish nation as a whole, like support a foreign nation in a conflict or vote to suspend my own countrys voting rights like the po traitors did. Naturally, agnieszka being a half breed with an English last name is not of pure polish blood and neither is she a 'good pole' as she took israels (surprise surprise) position rather than polands, which a true polish christian would not do. Its like with friends or family, they may not always be right but you still gotta back them up. Poland and poles may do stupid things here and there but id never go against my nation and my people. This isnt thr first time half breed holland took an anti polish position either - like many zionists and even non zionist jews, their loyalty is first and foremost to israel, not the natiin they live in or have citizenship in. Holland is clearly no different. Even her movies like europa europa focused on jews, not poles further illustrating to whom her loyalty lies - with other jews, not poles. Id give my live for poland, i guaruntee you holland wouldnt as poland and poles simply arent where her loyalties lay.

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Just read this

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Dayum as i said its all about nationalism