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*ja genau*


I mean....Britain independent??? Your footie team would be world champion by now if the US hadn't come to your rescue during WWII....jawoll! :)

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Yes...that....thanks!

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Why absolutely? You only count a few very rosy advantages....


I don't know about Poland, but eastern Germany's old men squad would had been nothing without Moscow's thumb....it wasn't for luck that they all fell down as said thumb got weaker and vanished.

But yes....it could had ended alot worse, as in Peking on their monster-place...whatsitsname?

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Sorry, Bobko....


It could have been different....without Hitler....I learned at first the russian soldiers surrendered en masse till they realized they didn't get liberated or even treated better by Stalin's enemy...

One can't help wondering what could have happened with better treatment and even support.....but then Hitler and Co. would had been different people and everything would be different...probably!

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....not Poles!

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There are??? And they do???? Man....I had no idea!!!!

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Why not just let them go? Leave them alone? I doubt they will like you more if Moscow comes again...


Heh:)

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So....there had been a hostile past?

It really sounds as if the country has been historically split....pro-Russians and pro-Ukrainians....maybe a real disconnection (as with Chechia and Sloviakia) would bring lasting peace....

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Seemingly not from the Germans?

It seems (I'm not an expert though) that Bandera and the ukrainian SS are seen as freedom fighter/guerilla against Stalin/Russia.....after they were gone it followed decades of russian oppression....that needs an outlet, somewhat.

Is that anti-russian mood in Ukraine really that surprising to you as a Russian? Was there never anything of it during the times of the Sovietunion?

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.....yeah....I guess I see it....but you hopefully too?

If France or the Netherlands would be today in a fight for independence...or better call it: statehood....they would maybe reach back to that too.

It's a kind of desperation, but as similiar felt as back then...."The enemy of my enemy...."

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...na ja....they weren't alone in that! The SS was once called "the first european army":

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffen-SS_foreign_volunteers_and_conscripts

There were units from nearly every european country....

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....not a german problem....this time! *phew* :)


Na ja....it's a difficult history.....the SS fanboy could also ask why that veteran did fight for the opressor Russia?

I guess the land is still split....imagine Hitler would had been smarter and Vlasov would today be heralded as liberator and savior....

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....I guess that is meant as a big, fat middle finger to Moscow....no?

That whole region is crazy.....

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....you look older than 35!

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I'm surely not.....in my family nobody either, nor in my 'hood....I think there should be a debate about that with a following plebiscite about that!

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Why not?

Alone the territories imprisoned under full ice today will be tomorrows green plains because of the experts global warming....that's alot more empty space waiting to be filled than Europe ever had!
Not to mention the resources under the former ice waiting to be found...

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Keep feeding them our money and make sure they stay poor! Why should those with the full pockets change a thing?

It has become just a convenient excuse to blame everybody else and his western grandmom when one gov is to unskilled or mostly just to corrupt!

The much better idea would be let their smart heads, their young ones wanting a better life, their trouble makers there and not inviting them here! That might have a bigger chance of success for the big, so necessary changes, than paying the corrupt govs with lotsa so called "Entwicklungshilfe" and stealing their young generation!

Leave them alone!

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....but that happened before! Climate changes....continental shiftings....today's green grass plain is tomorrows ice....today's deserts are tomorrows seas and lakes....islands drown or get born.....neither land borders nor climates have ever been steady or "forever" in our planets history!

Wanting to get paid for it is a bad joke!

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....I guess with more and more rightist/nationalist govs winning european elections that will be a main topic for the next ten years, or so.....

There is a counter-movement to all that globalism of the last decades growing!

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I wonder about that actually.....all the young men who should fight their corrupt govs for freedom and prosperity.....instead they look elsewhere, in far away places, for a better (and easier) life.

Their govs surely won't stop the masses, they are glad when the potential troublemakers are leaving....I'm somewhat sure all the western goody-two-shoes don't think about that at all, but who should make these poor countries better when the young generation just quits?

Maybe stopping the immigration from Africa and Arabia would long term do more for these countries than inviting their people into our western lands....just saying!

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....I better go now, my typos get worse and worse! :)

*waves and takes helmet*

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Oh, of course....how could I not know or forget him! :)


....and of course, he is right with that too....I wonder if any gov with its Chancellor has been ever that unpopular in Germany!

But its not always the Ukraine-war.....especially not as the "freshness" is gone and it seems to develop into a long, drawn-out war! The problems with illegal muslims, as only a few days beck with the Solingen-murder shown again, are alot more important with many people....

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True....the GDR tried to invoke abit prussian spirit....to build on some of it's traditions...contrary to the West....you could be onto something....

Even if that might also to be about that the western lands were less traditional prussian lands as Berlin and Brandenburg and such...western states have other traditions....Rhinelander, Bavarians (not to mention Austrians) etc. see themselves traditionally as different to Prussians (former and actual wannabes:)!

Prussian virtues (German: preußische Tugenden) are the virtues associated with the historical Kingdom of Prussia (1701-1918). They were derived from Prussia's militarism and the ethical code of the Prussian Army as well as from bourgeois values such as honesty and frugality that were influenced by Pietism and the Enlightenment. The so-called "German virtues" that include punctuality, order, and diligence can also be traced back to Prussian virtues.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_virtues

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Really? How so?


*phew* :)

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Na ja....the other brilliant idea is that Eastern Germany is alot more like Poland, Slovakia, Hungary etc....meaning not so much invested in wokism, multi-kulti, green/leftism and all that western flavour (meaning here mainly West-Germany, France, Britain)....40 years of living together in the Eastern-Bloc has left clear traces in the people and the land and that is not going away...

Once you can convince me Poland will be happy about millions of muslims from North Africa...Syria...Afghanistan etc...will still be glad about them, wanting to support them even after countless rapes and knife murders, blaming the Poles instead for their behaviour too...then maybe I will think we really are "wrong" and not rather NORMAL!


Wot??? You didn't like be before??? 🥺

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They aren't and they don't!

If that would be so nobody would chose the AfD....

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....what is decent about it to want to keep the borders open for murderer and rapists? And when they kill and rape then they will not even punished and thrown out but cuddled and pitied....because, of course, the bad Germans are to blame...

What in the hell is decent about that?

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Okay....good to know....

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Okay....don't come running when AfD-Germany prefers Russia...that will be then no longer german domestic problems, but polish problems too....just saying!

Some Poles still seem unable to grasp that Poland shouldn't **** off both her neighbours at once....that did never end well....

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What is so amazing about that?

You are make our pro-Ukraine gov look weak and ridiculous....think about that when the AfD gains grounds, from election to election to election...she wins votes also because our gov looks weak and without control. The AfD says "Thank you"!

But hey....who needs strategic, long term thinking, right? A short term humiliation is so much more fun....right!