UK, Ireland / Warning to British people visiting Poland!! Don't get drunk and smash the place up! [447]

re: And that's wrong

- I think exactly the same - the club owners should not allow the troublemakers in but let decent folks in. And the vast majority of English and Irish (that's the two Brit isle nations I actually know) are decent.

What does get into SOME Brits that they act so outrageously abroad at times? I know that some Swedes act terribly abroad and one explanation for that is that they are too suppressed at home as regards alcohol consumption, etc. But what would be the motive with the Brits?

Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [231]

Hm, many Russians think that Dostoyevski was of Polish extraction. The surname is certainly Polish. But he was a bit of a Polonophobe, wasnt he? Also of Polish origin were Tiolkovski (space scientist), Stanislavski (theatre theoretician), Tchaikovsky (composer), Gogol (great writer - one of my great favourites), and others. But as you know I dont feel any pride in somebody else's achievements.

:)

Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [231]

Hm, my posts (pertinent to the discussion, including the one about Hollywood figures) have been deleted from this thread, and one highly offensve Polonophobic post by buttburst still remains (the one on 'Kopernikus,' his alleged 'german/austrian' origins, our alleged 'people grabbing' and with with the elegant expression 'f...ck' to boot). Does it mean the moderator agrees with the content of the post?

Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [231]

I was joking with Joyce, Bono and Neil Young, of course.

;)

Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [231]

Shawn, Neil Young is definitely Polish. I'll stand up to you on that any time, any place.
:)

Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [231]

re: Notable people of Polish descent:

- Jim Joyce was Polish too. And so is Bono.
;)

Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [231]

re: 'Were', dude

- Do you mean Austria and the Hapsburgs don't rule Hungary after all? Then who rules Hungary? Isn't it Hungarians who do?

If yes, then aren't they responsible for Budapest monuments?

re: if your point is wrong usage of a word.

- And what do you mean by this?

Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [231]

re: Austria, dude, The Habsburg Monarchy to be exact

- You mean Austria and the Habsburgs are the 'owner' of Hungary?

Huh, dude?
:)

Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [231]

re: Who was the 'owner' of Hung

- Well, is he still the 'owner'?

Huh?

Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [231]

re: so Austrians [...] a monument of the winner of this battle in Budapest

- Well, isn't it Hungarians in this case?

Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [231]

Joe, I was just kidding. All the best, man.
:)

re: it's thought that winner o'Battle of Vienna was Leopold I

- As usual, Germans have twisted historical facts pertaining to the Poles. Oh well, but many still know that it was Sobieski who defeated the Turks at Vienna. In England, Sobieski's victory has been immortalised in one of John Milton's writings.

Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [231]

re: Joseph Pilsudski

- You mean, ahem, yourself?
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Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [231]

El Gamal, as for the book, I remember seeing and scanning it in a big library in Canada. It was old, definitely Brit too; the language was, if my memory serves me right, Victorian. It had great illlustrations too. That's all I remember. I also remember an unbelievable novel titled, I think, 'Doctor Copernicus,' by (I think) an Irish writer (no offense to the Irish people and friends). It was definitely unfavourable towards Poland, crudely and stupidly ridiculing. A proof of its intellectual sophistication - a Polish military man, Kopernik's contemporary, appears in the novel, whose surname is Chopin....

:)))))))))))))))

Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [231]

re: in Wikipedia for example

- 'In Wikipedia,' oh?

Sorry, but I prefer my good ole Victorian English (?) expert on Copernicus.

I hope I won't hurt your self-esteem by saying that only idiots rely on the Wikipedia?

God, what times I am living in, and amongst what people.

Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [231]

re: Coppernicus [sic - P.] - his mother was definetely German (her name was Watzenrode)

- Really? And I saw a huge book (by an English Victorian author?) where it is plainly stated that Kopernik's mother was Polish (frankly speaking, I never cared about the whole subject - who really gives damn about guys such as Copernicus, Tyho de Brahe and Kepler anyway?). What source did you take it from that Copernicus's mother was 'definetely German,' Gamal?

:)

Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [231]

re: Czesław Miłosz

- Not really Polish. Rather a Lithuanian Polonophobe scribbling in Polish. Not great poet at all, by the way, only much promoted by, ahem, certain influential amigos in the US book-publishing industry, for his brownosing to their ethnicity and his slinging mud at Poland and the Polish people (which the aforementioned amigos love to see). A sinister figure - a former Stalinist bureaucrat who defected to the other side of the Iron Curtain solely in order to promote his own scribbling career. I wouldn't be surprised if it appeared that he spied for the Russkies against America. He scribbled eloquently enough (even though rather obscurely) about 'the captive mind,' that is the Marxist mind, but remained to his dyting day (and he lived long, alas) basically Marxist himself. He got the Nobel in 1980, ostensibly for Literature, but in reality for Politics, i.e. 1980 was the year of Solidarity and Lech Walesa being topics number 1 in the so-called Western media, so a patriotic Pole should have been given the Nobel for something. And so Milosz was chosen, even though he was neither Polish nor a Polish patriot; in reality, he was a bitter Polonophobe of Lithuanian extraction, scribbling in Polish solely because it was a language giving him a greater chance of success than Lithuanian. Anyhow, the Nobel Prize for Literature has long gone to the dogs; it has been given to such monstruously bad writers (e.g. the Italian hack Dario Fo, the dreadful scribbler from the US Toni Morrison, the former Waffen SS-man Gunther Grass), and denied to so many truly great writers (e.g. Leo Tolstoy, Rilke, Borges, Graham Greene) that its moral value is zero. Dno i babelki (the sea bottom and bubbles), as they put it in Poland.

Milosz is, in a sense, the Stalinist equivalent of the Waffen SS-man Gunther Grass.
:)

Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [231]

Hmmmm, it seems to me that truly great nations don't brag about their great people. Take the English - the nation that has more reasons than any other nation in history to be proud of its greats. I've never met a (real) Englishman bragging about Shakespeare, or Newton, or the Beatles, or numerous other geniuses his nation has given birth to. Or the Japanese - do they ever brag about Murasaki Shikibu, or Saygyo, or Ueda Akinari, or Dogen, or Hakuin, or Katsushika Hokusai? - I dare think that only essentially mediocre nations puff themselves with pride at their presumed greats, and look down on those nations that they regard as having none or fewer greats than them. All this in order to lift these creepy mediocre nations' low self-esteem. Besides...well, for example, the English are a truly great nation (perhaps the greatest, most influential nation in history), but how many times have they been attacked and belittled by little nations that owe everything to the English and would have meant nothing, zero without the English?

Yeah, only little creepy mediocre peoples brag about their presumed greats and attempt to put down others.
:)

Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [231]

re: I have asked before what the poles have ever contributed to european civilisation.

- Hm, who really cares about what you have asked or whom you've heard of? Are you demanding that the Poles' jump and brag about their achievements, and compete in bragging, just as such mediocrities as you do? We will leave this jumping and competing, and disgraceful arguing about who is better than whom, to folks like yourself.

The real question is what you as an individual have contributed to European civilisation? Hopefully not just stink and psychopathic hatred?

By the way, you have shown yourself to be a Polonophobic racist. Hence I wonder why do you stick to this forum like a louse to hair? Why would such an ubermensch as you seek the company of those unimportant, bereft-of-great-people Poles?

:)

Kopernik's mother was Polish. Hmmm...doesn't it make him Polish? He fought the Germans - the so-called Teutonic Knights - when they attacked Frombork. Prussia was then part of Poland. Kopernik's birthplace was actually called Torun, not 'Thorn.' Actually, it's still a Polish city, still called Torun. But frankly speaking, I don't give much damn about whether Kopernik was Polish or not. What does it really give me if he was? Does it give me some personal greatness, raise my personal value? Only mediocrities and human inadequates brag about the great deeds of others.

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Genealogy / I am 1/8 Polish on my mother's side - not Polish enough / Lithuania and Zmudz in Poland's ancestry [110]

Miranda blurts out:
'so not 100% Polish either but 50 % Jewish. You are such a fake.'

- Why am I not 100 % Polish, according to you? Why would I be '50 % Jewish'? Explain.

re:' Your family was knighted - can you prove it???'

- I can if need be. We have some ancient papers, and also my ancestor is of a certain significance in Polish history.

re:
'Who do you indentify with if you are only 50% Polish(or maybe Ukrainian - he, he)'?

- Why would I be 'only 50 % Polish'? Explain. Why would I be Ukrainian, and what would be so funny about it? Elucidate, please.

Re:
'Are you sitting on a fence???' What has made you ask this question? Have I given any grounds? What grounds?

re:
'What a joke!!!!!!!!' What's so funny, and why?
:)
PS. By the way, to me a real Polish, English, etc. person is one who puts the good of his own country and people above the good of other countries and peoples. At present, the good of any European country and nation includes the good of Europe as a whole.

Do you put the good of Poland and Europe above the good of any other country and continent, miranda? ;)

PS. , to miranda. Forgot to ask: and why would I be 'a fake'? Please, explain.
:)

Genealogy / I am 1/8 Polish on my mother's side - not Polish enough / Lithuania and Zmudz in Poland's ancestry [110]

Ola, as long as your 5 % is not connected with those 'Ukrainians' who committed the unspeakable atrocities in the Eastern Borderlands in the 40s, then there's no problem.

Hm, and maybe you're more Ukrainian than the 5 %? Some of your postings don't seem to sound very Polish... they sound kind of savage.

:)

My family on my father's side were converts from Judaism in the 18th century. They were knighted by His Majesty King of Poland, and suffix 'ski' was added to their surname.

Mom's family - petty nobility from the Eastern Borderlands. Part of this family, including numerous babies, was savagely murdered by the Ukrainians during WWII.

Life / Why are Poles always so miserable? Why do they never smile? [512]

Hm... I wonder if this 'antimonopole' feller is really Polish, or if he only lies that he's 'Polish,' and is, in fact, of totally different extraction? Let's check it out. 'Antimonopole,' are you against the Jewish occupation of the Palestinian land and against the Israeli army and settlers' murdering the Palestinians? Yes or no? My second question to you is: would you call 'buggers' the numerous African folks in Britain? There are scores of them in London alone, much more than, in fact, the Poles. :) There are also, reportedly, in London alone, hundreds of thousands of French. Would you call them 'buggers' just as well? :) And how about the countless East Indians, would you call them 'buggers' too? :) And how about other Asians - Chinese, Koreans, etc.? :) 'Buggers,' or not? And how about the very numerous Jewish folks in Britain? 'Buggers,' or not? :) So? :) PS. Your postings seem to sound quite grim; there's absolutely no sense of humour in them, only, it seems, the psychopathic lust to hurt the Poles, to put them down. Therefore isn't it actually you who are a grim, smileless, psychotic type? Don't you project on the Poles your own grimness and total luck of humour? :)

Genealogy / Why are some Polish people dark complected, and others very light [511]

Any evidence that I'm 'talking ****'? Prove it, shoothead.

Genealogy / Why are some Polish people dark complected, and others very light [511]

Espoona, why should I 'go to sleep'? Explain. Are you able to?

Genealogy / Why are some Polish people dark complected, and others very light [511]

Artur, I have proved already that you're a racist: you give the thumbs-up to another racist's Polonophobic tirades. Therefore I doubt it if you're Polish. And even if you were born Polish, your conduct on this forum has discredited you as a Pole. I promise you, ********, that this will never be forgotten. :) PS. You're also a slanderer. You accused me of being a 'hanibal lecter of racism' [sic] and other stuff, but when I asked you for evidence to back your accusations, you didn't give any. A liar and Polonophobic racist - that's Artur.

Genealogy / Why are some Polish people dark complected, and others very light [511]

ArturSzastak, you scribble to me: 'your the hanibal lecter [sic] of racism. You take it to a new level.'ArturSzastak, prove that I am 'the hanibal lecter of racism' and that I 'take it to a new level.' Give evidence from my postings, ArturSzastak. And, ArturSzastak, you are an anti-Polish racist, probably a non-Pole who lies that he's Polish. :)

Genealogy / Why are some Polish people dark complected, and others very light [511]

ArturSzastak, you scribble: 'From what I can gather from your posts, you think whites are better than everyone.' Prove, using evidence from my posts, that I think whites are better than everyone. Good luck with the task. :) You also scribble, Szostak: 'Jose's a good guy.' Is he a good guy to you because he's been viciously insulting towards the Poles ? If so, if you give the thumbs-up to his racist rambling, aren't you a Polonophobic racist just as well? Aren't you lying that you're Polish, just as he's been lying that he's 'Latino'?

Genealogy / Why are some Polish people dark complected, and others very light [511]

Well, if 'Admin' should not let in racists, he should not let in Josecipo the phony 'Latino' in the first place, because of Josecipo's vicious racist Polonophobia. I wonder why racist psychopathic human crap like Josecipo keeps on pouring into Polish websites?

Genealogy / Why are some Polish people dark complected, and others very light [511]

Hey, Artur. Why do you suggest that there's a 'nice white Pwoer' (sic) website there for me? Please explain what do you mean. By the way, are you happy with Joseducipo and other racist psychos insulting Polish people on this website? Are you at all Polish, ArturSzastak? :)

Genealogy / Why are some Polish people dark complected, and others very light [511]

Josecipomadupera, have you had an incestuous relationship with your mother or father? If so, how did it feel? How does it feel to be a vicious psychopath and racist? :)