News / Thousands of Polish women attend Czarny Piątek rally in Warsaw [780]

@cms neuf
Then there would be proof of god.

Just back from Rynek. At least 30 police vans and cars full of officers protecting Mariacki. Not a single regular person standing in the way of thousands of protesters heading to the square. Two pubs open serving food and drinks outside and police doing nothing.

JK has turned his march to control into a powder keg ready to explode. When people take control of their own lives thats when change comes. PiS is nothing more than a religious cult carrying a political banner. The Pope doesn't even support these extremist's.

News / Thousands of Polish women attend Czarny Piątek rally in Warsaw [780]

amiga500 PiS already said they will not compromise on the law. Of course they are in control. Demonstrations wont stop and strikes will do deeper damage to the economy than these idiots have already done with nonsensical closures. The people they are making laws for many of them were not able to vote in the last election when you look at the protestor demographics. PiS supporters are dying and becoming outnumbered. PiS did not win by much in the last election. This is their death march. Seriously I have never seen a a group so lacking in basic intelligence and political strategy in power. Anyone who voted for them needs to look in the mirror and understand that laws today can be repealed tomorrow, and then everything that happened was for nothing. Compromise is what lasts.

News / Thousands of Polish women attend Czarny Piątek rally in Warsaw [780]

This is PIS, they cant even get their BS puppet court rulings timed right. They claim victory over COVID and it rages in Warsaw and other places. Where they underestimated every educated persons hate of absolute power. They make a mockery of democracy. I can not believe I am actually watching this. They keep pushing and the people will push back. Overnight, they passed the USA as the most politically F'd country in the world.

News / Thousands of Polish women attend Czarny Piątek rally in Warsaw [780]

Polish people should be embarrassed. This is how they want the world to see Poland? Shocking. I would not believe this is possible if I wasn't actually watching it live.

News / Thousands of Polish women attend Czarny Piątek rally in Warsaw [780]

Watching live on TV this government is a joke. PIS is the biggest group of pu$$ies in history. Calling in police to protect the potato? Kicking people out because they object and protest the dark ages politics. They need to be very careful or Poland will explode on them.

News / Thousands of Polish women attend Czarny Piątek rally in Warsaw [780]

Thankfully though it looks PIS has finally over played their hand. This is perhaps the dumbest group of wannabe politicians in history. They are on the verge of completely loosing control over the country. When police join protests like they are in Krakow, you have a problem with enforcement not just enacting rules and laws.

Real Estate / Can you use your last months rent to pay a deposit? Is it legal in Poland? [18]

The deposit then should be placed in an interest bearing account and returned with interest. Unfortunately though yes, landlords for residential property love to keep deposits and mark up common wear and tear as damage.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

@pawian @mafketis
While I agree with a lot of what you both talk about, civil unions and marriages will never happen in Poland. It is a waste of time argument when the vast majority of Poles don't support it. If they want to get married do so in a different country that allows it. They should however be allowed to "will" their partners their property at death, and they should be allowed to have access to medical information if someone is in the hospital. Basic rights like that would be fair.

Focusing on this issue takes away from the real issue effecting everyone regardless of political affiliation. The economy, taxes, ZUS, entitlements, freedom of the press, freedom of speech, and immigration. These are the issues, not gays.

USA, Canada / Is Poland currently able to ship packages to USA? [5]

I shipped to USA no problem using UPS. Expensive but arrived quick.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

@Spike31
I agree with your assessment in basic form. In the game of politics though, the threat of moving assets to a different country is very real. Trump is not always rational, and he doesn't really care about Duda or PiS. Trump wants what he wants and gets what he wants when it comes to personnel. He wont let PiS influence his choice. PiS runs the risk of pi$$ing Trump off and thats never wise. I think we can all agree on that.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

@Spike31
US doesn't need Poland for presence and irritating effect to Russia. Latvia is begging the US to come in. This is the Polish problem, they think the US needs them when the US only tolerates them as a government. The US never sticks to one country forever. They use them as long as needed and move on. Iraq, Kuwait, and others come to mind.

Trump is one thing. Loyal. He just proved that by pardoning Roger Stone. He didn't care what anyone thought. He wasn't going to see his friend in jail, and he wont let Poland push this one around either. If we're going to discuss this, lets at least do it honestly and not color it with hopes and dreams. No way Trump brings her home. She will resign if Trump is done after November.

Be careful what you wish for. Biden will put s very smart politician in place and Biden though a "nice" guy, wont allow himself to look soft. He will have a pandemic to deal with and he will have to be hard. What did Poland get under Obama? Nothing. And Biden will continue that with a huge troop reduction right away.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

@mafketis
If PiS is actually trying to force a Trump appointee out, it will not end well for relations with Trump. He does the firing and no one else. And if Biden actually gets in? Ohhh thats going to throw a wrench into things PiS is hopping for with the US. Biden will spend all that money Poland hopes for on special interests in the US and not in Poland. There wont be any new military base in Poland either.

While PiS won, and they will do much of what they want within Poland, as is their right as ruling party, they need to be careful not to pi$$ off others they depend on. This will be very interesting to see how political relationships shake out.

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

@KorkiTaczer
People might not exist in that time too. Far right ideals are not going to move Poland forward. They will crash and burn as they always have. The only path forward for Poland is the center, the left is a failed experiment just like the right. The problem is the nut cases on both sides who wont let go of crazy ideas. MAybe its time for you to take your meds now?

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

Lets not make excuses. Duda won. He won because Trzaskowski did not come out hard enough on some issues. He couldnt get voters to cross over. He was a very well spoken, and bright candidate. He simply didnt have teeth to go directly after hard votes. Poland gets what it deserves, another 3 to 5 years of backward spending government and a continued walk down the path of authoritarian government. So, more old people need to die off before things change. Its life and life moves on. So be it. My pierogi will still taste the same when I get home and my dog will still enjoy walks in planty. Little will effect me as long as I can continue to bring money in from outside Poland. In the end its every man for themselves.

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

@amiga500
Polish, you can pm it to me. In USA now picking up a truckload of cash to bring back anyway.

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

Elections so close they will not announce preliminary votes and will only announce final vote late tomorrow or tuesday. Last projection was Duda ahead by 160,000 and thats not enough if accurate and still waiting on the mail in votes.

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

@Ironside
Indeed. Shows a country divided. Much like the USA and that has not gone well. Regardless of who wins, they need to recognize they do not have a mandate for extremism. Exit polls early had Clinton ahead too. Lets wait for the official count, and then what may be a court challenge by either side.

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

@Dirk diggler
No I am simply not going to waste my time searching the internet for more things to post on here. I read enough and dont need to try to convince people with facts that can be twisted by anyone. I lived through the lock down in Poland, you did not. I see every day the empty store fronts, you dont. You are a visitor regardless of where you were born. I am a resident and I have a vested interest in several business operations in the country. You have nothing at stake. Thats a big difference.

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

@Dirk diggler
You have not been in Poland in years. You have said this. Any monkey can cite newspaper clippings and propaganda from PiS. Living and working in Poland is completely different. Mom and Pop shops are the lifeblood of Poland. Factories are not. Same as in the USA, and for the same reason Trump made sure small business got some money. Poland small business got nothing from the Federal Gov, and only 5000 pln from each voivodeship after the business stayed open for 3 months during the pandemic. Dont comment on things you didnt experience, it doesnt hold up to scrutiny.

All the auto plants in Poland were closed for months. Lets see how GDP is effected moving forward. Stop talking about the past. This is this forum's problem, no one talks about the future, its all arguing the past and homo's. Unreal how stupid the discussion is. Someone please tell me the plan for the future. PiS has no plan excpt to continue to consolidate power and destroy democracy while spending the country into debt like America is can never escape.

As for the Germans it is exactly why the USA is pulling forces out of Germany. Now with Latvia asking the US to put a military base there, where do you think the US goes? Definitely not Poland. The US still wants a free and impartial court system, both sides of politics accept differences in core beliefs yet neither would support the judiciary moves PiS has made.

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

@Dirk diggler
The economy is artificially inflated by employment in state industry funded by EU dollars. That was until corona. The employment numbers in Poland do not account for all the jobs lost by Ukraine migrants who will not get those jobs back because record numbers of business closed to not reopen again. You havent walked a street in Poland to see how many empty storefronts there are. I have in many cities and its scary to see.

Economic GDP is slowing, and it will begin to fall now. What happened before corona is simply not how things are now and not how they will be moving forward.

Spending on military is required by NATO. If they dont spend they dont belong, one of the reasons Trump is complaining about other EU members. It is also the only way Poland gets time with Trump and PiS knows it. Fort Trump isnt happening, Duda came from the last meeting with nothing. Right before the election he got nothing. Companies are finding it hard to get qualified people for what Polish companies will pay, not because they arent out there. They are finding it hard because educated people typically dont choose to move to an oppressive or overly taxed community. The Polish military without NATO or the United States is no better than the Michigan Militia.

Culture is the only thing PiS has going for it. But the gay stuff, and alphabet soup issues really makes the country look stupid. Gays are not going away. Homo's have been in Poland since the beginning of time.

Duda and PiS are the past, they can not move the country forward.

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

@johnny reb
Your point on foreign investments makes no sense. Foreign investment is not coming. Taxes are being raised, ZUS is being raised, and purchasing a Polish company is nearly outlawed now. It is an anit growth business sentiment in government. The red tape is astronomical. This idea of yours is simply not going to happen and PiS doesnt know how to make it happen. Really, they are completely incompetent when it comes to economics, a community college graduate could do better. Please dont insult me with this train of thought. I respect your other opinions even if I disagree but this has zero foundation.

@Ironside
Actually it doesnt have to be part of the package. A real candidate, and IMO the challenger is the lesser of two evils, but a real candidate would be a centrist. Not some left or right wing freak who wants to believe in "ideals" that no one will adhere to. A centrist who says no to immigration, no to additional free money, and yes to spending money on the people in the country's education, medical services, and job training. This would be a real candidate. All the other side show issues are simply BS.

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

@johnny reb
Actually everyone I know with a small business in the USA received at least 10 K. That helped them a lot. So it did actually work in my opinion. The fact that larger business raped the system again is a problem. The church should not have gotten any business funding. Thats a joke. Like the church doesnt have enough money.

As for what Obama did, its irrelevant. Trump was no angel either. Neither Trump of Hilary are/were clean. Trump is the only candidate in the US who wont allow the country to collapse IMO. Biden will bury the US in depression level of debt with social spending. So will PiS and Duda.

Being a conservative is not only about family and immigration values. It is about economic values, military values, and standing strong for national economic growth spurred by innovation and creativity. This is where PiS fails completely.

Once again though no one wants to talk about real important issues. Economic issues. Polands future will be determined by the economy and nothing else. Without a plan the country is not attractive for major investment or innovation, and the young will continue to leave as soon as they can.

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

@Ironside
I simply do not support any party blindly. I believe religion has no place in government, but people keep bringing it in because they think it somehow should guide a population. That hasnt worked so well for Muslims. Sooner or later all religious government shrinks or disappears. Rational thought will always win in the longest of battles.

I do not confuse gay and LGBTQ. I think both are equally a waste of time discussing. The more attention we pay to those "issues" the more distraction they become from the real issues. I dont believe in "movements". Everyone on the planet needs a stupid movement to get behind for social injustice or so called social growth and acceptance. Everyone should mind their own personal business and focus on growth. This is the problem with both sides.

Pollution and the other items I mentioned are real. Would anyone drink the water from the rivers in Poland unfiltered? Hell no. Sabotaging the works of a government that is not working for the people is not sabotage, it is called change and improvement, innovation. Those things spur growth.

The future of Poland under PiS is the continuation of ideas proven by PiS not to work. It is the burying of the future in financial burdens that are not necessary. When PiS is gone, then and only then will the rest of the world take Poland seriously. When they are gone, someone will lead real innovation, and it doesn't matter what the party name will be. youth is the future of Poland, not those who are currently in power. They will be dust in short order, and its only a matter of time.

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@Ironside
You are so focused on gays and LGBTQ you don't even understand what I am talking about. Gays and those issues are nothing. Miniscule issues compared to the economy, infrastructure, business growth, positioning Poland to lead Europe in the future instead of being laughed at for backward thinking. Your thinking completely ignores the challenges facing young people when the old people are dead.

Pollution, transitioning the coal mining economy that the rest of the world is killing for Poland, developing new industry and technology centers to keep Poles from leaving for other countries, creating an investor friendly environment, reducing tax burdens on business, reducing spending on non essential items like public TV, investing in hospitals and schools. You know, the $**T that makes countries great, the $**T that turns countries into leaders instead of followers and puppets. Those kind of actual important and impactful things.

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@johnny reb
While I respect your opinion, the future of immigration is a Polish idea, not JK. Most Poles are against the EU immigration idea, its not an original JK thought. Most Poles are also not in favor of open support of gays, again, not an original thought. The election should not be about these two narrow subjects. It divides the country into the educated and the non educated. Really both sides are quite stupid in this regard in not finding a centrist way to bring cross over voters.

@Lenka
Christianity out of politics? Like the separation of church and state in the USA? LMAO of course this is highly successful (sarcasm)

This election will once again come down to the poor, and uneducated voting for Duda and the educated, young voting for Trzaskowski. The young and educated would vote for a ham sandwich before voting for Duda and PiS has no way of ever getting that vote. This is the PiS long term problem. As each term in office ends they have less supporters simply due to people dying off and people becoming more educated. This election or the next they are done. Its too close to call for sure now for either side.

Its the voter who lost his job or business that should decide this election. People who actually continue to suffer because the "shield" failed the majority of small business in Poland. That is what matters. The EU money will be reduced in coming years, Poland will become a net payer into the EU, and then where does the infrastructure money come from that PiS has been spending to create jobs that are long term temporary?

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@johnny reb
Only problem with that theory is the church got 1.4 billion in bailout money from the US government. Seems they are also capitalists.

This election should be about the future or Poland. Instead all anyone talks about is the past. PO past abuses, and PiS 18th century policy. Not one person talks about the future of the young people and children of Poland who deserve better than what they have. The future does not lie with PiS. This election or next, they are done. JK simply is not representative of the future, he is a dinosaur that should be extinct. Maybe somehow related to Kieth Richards, but neither should lead a country.

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@gumishu
Some good points made. I see some of your arguments too. But 500+ also gave a lot of people money for vodka and nothing else. It created a class of people having babies to make money and not work. It created a low level welfare state in many cases. Cash should never be given to the poor, food stamps or programs like this in the USA are the only way to ensure money is spent appropriately.

You can not just lump PO in one group. Using the past as the argument against the future is juvenile. That's like saying the lightbulb shouldn't have pressed forward n development when the first one failed.

You cant get better teachers, hospitals, doctors and other items if you dont invest in those area's. PiS continually refuses to spend the money where it is most needed. TVP and 3 billion a year ire the perfect example.

Sorry to say, but only a Pu$$y gets the questions before a debate handed to him. Because a person like that is incapable of leading, and incapable of being strong in the face of adversity. Anyone following that person is the same as the one answering the questions IMO. Comparing him to Trump is like comparing a squid to a lion.

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@Crow
Duda striking a suspiciously Nixon looking pose there. How did that work out?

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The fact that the debate didnt take place because Duda demanded it take place on TVP shows everyone he is a coward. Trump debated anyone and everyone the last election on all television stations not just FOX. That is what a real leader does, he doesnt fear anyone. Duda is simply a puppet and looked like an idiot last night babbling off all the things he says every day to the same audience. Undecided voters are not considering Duda they are considering to vote against Duda or stay at home.

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

Free media is not funded by the state. Free media is a business, not an economic burden that is a gaping money pit like TVP. 3 billion a year that should have gone to schools or medical care. Thats completely irresponsible use of state funds. Did you happen to watch the video of JK I posted that contradicts everything PiS wants? Probably not.