History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


Oh they had but, none of those Poles wanted to co-operate. Even a right winged anti-Semitic organization which I can't recall the name of right now had a member whom was bribed by the Nazis (or forced idk) and he got a bullet in his head for the very idea.

Also there is a story about Goebbels wanting to make the Górale have their own mini state and saying that THEY were the original Poles and the Poles predecessors which stayed by their culture but you know what they did to that newly made mini states leader?? They got him and hanged him. Then Goebbels put that idea into the trash. (I wish I remember the links sorry but if you look hardly enough I bet you will find one)

Also Hitler and his crew had vassal states all over Europe even one they had invaded (France, Nazi-Norway etc)

So why not try to make those Poles whom a lot earlier won against the Soviet Union their ally or partner?

I bet they tried all they could!

They even had Russian troops... (a small faction considering the numbers of course)
But still a faction, while the closest time of co-operation between Poles and the Germans (Nazis) was in the eastern border when the German withdraw and they "forgot" some of their arms so that nearby AK forces could pick em up after they had told them their "forgetting" some stuff.

And that was only a single event! I can't recall that it happened quiet a lot. But it did happen, once...

Name me a nation/country which was occupied by the Nazis and the Nazis had a tougher time being there!

Food / BREAD IN POLAND IS DETERIORATING [90]


Didn't know :o


Hmmm



You lucky bas*****


Ohhh....

Food / BREAD IN POLAND IS DETERIORATING [90]

If I only had a job and my own apartment I would married you! :((

Food / BREAD IN POLAND IS DETERIORATING [90]

No problem admin, so again what's the origin of Kaizerki? I really wonder it's sooo good. Impossible to be crappy! And if you want them to last longer you should freeze them geez...

History / Heil Poland!.....? Poland is a pro-Nazi state? [121]

Well I guess Sasha went through those same books but I don't call him "Ruski" or "Kacap" I can't recall doing so atleast. While I wouldn't been shocked if I did so with ConstantineK. I generally don't like Prussian lovers and Russian imperialists (BB is an exception)

Food / BREAD IN POLAND IS DETERIORATING [90]


Ahhh if I only found one in Norway! The paaaain! I wish I knew about a local butcher! :/

no more posts about meat
thank you.

Food / BREAD IN POLAND IS DETERIORATING [90]


You know that real quality food lasts very short, and crap food lasts very long because they put chemicals in it so it lasts longer... So if you buy crap food=lasts longer

If you buy quality food = lasts shorter

Same goes with milk, Polish milk is sooo good :D
Quite often I eat everything I buy before the end has gone in Poland so I never have problems with it when im there for vacations :D

I love Kaizerki <3
(They have Austrian/German past right?)

Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]


I always thought they said Amen, like "Amen" and not "Umain" or "Omain" thanks for the info :D

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


Joined or drafted? :)

History / Heil Poland!.....? Poland is a pro-Nazi state? [121]


Somebody asked why Poles get so "attacking" here, I answered because it was created&continued by an RUssian Imperialist what ever his (yours) motives are they would look at it as "Russian propaganda trying to put down Poland"

So if it was an stupid-non knowing Westerner (probably an American , talking out of experience not stereotype) most wouldn't been that attacking, but more explaining on why it is happening and etc.

It's like when a cat steals a dog's fish (he can rightly do so right? Because fish is typical cat's food right? but the fish is still the dog's)

So when after the 1000 time the cat tried to steal the dog's fish and asks how is the fish tasting out of pure curiosity you shouldn't be so surprised that the dog thinks "Oh he tries to steal my fish again"

Still a Cat can be a Cat and a Dog can be a Dog
and the Cat has all the right to get himself some food it's just about "how" he/she does it :)

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


My question earlier was about how many Poles do you think there are that weren't written down cause of time of war. Not everyone had a little piece of paper with him that was written "executed because he/she tried to save a Jew"

My point is, yes there were many Dutch people trying to save Jews, but those who re regarded as saviors of Jews in Poland aren't that much in Yad Vashem because there were fronts going through that place 3 times and not everybody had a piece of paper that said they helped a Jew, and everybody knows that dead can't speak among the livings.


that was my point thank you


That is actually a good point


Also some wouldn't have the courage of walking outside among Poles after reporting Jews to the Nazis? You know the Polish underground wasn't "inactive"

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


Which used Hungary? (just curious)


I would say adding a perfect statement about the topic?

Remember M-G that there are many unknown heroes from Poland ww2, many lie dead under that times Warsaw ruins. Those who tried to help Jews and got killed themselves with the Jews they were saving aren't numbered up right? How many dead Poles was there that tried to help Jews but failed and died by doing it? While nobody had any record of it and family members maybe thought he/she died because of underground movement fights (during Warsaw uprising)

You gotta admit that in reality I think it is a lot more Poles who helped Jews then somebody knows, just that nobody saw them or heard them? I guess there were some in Netherlands too but, not at the same scale?

Out of pure logic the Nazi German must have captured a lot of "savers" since they changed their directives when it came to punishment of those who helped Jews right?

(anyhow how many Jews Dutch ppl saved, it won't change the immage I have of the Dutch I mean come on allow drugs? what have they been smoking? :))

News / US to deploy Patriot missiles to Poland [405]


It is a weapon which would come in handy in war, any war. It's just that Russia doesn't like the idea of arming up and starting the race again (mostly because THEY KNOW they will lose)

Russki's see it as danger to their protection while Poles thinks of it as a bonus to their protection

hmm

History / Heil Poland!.....? Poland is a pro-Nazi state? [121]

cause the one starting this thread about Polish "Nazi's" is a Russian imperialist :)

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]


It's about Poland reputation here hello?!

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]

Religiously = Western

Culturally = Western (when we think of the times when art and everything was coming from Italy and France? Also today fashion and food types don't come in a main stream from Russia...)

militarily = Western with eastern past

geographically = Central/Eastern (just a slightly bit of east when you consider Poland's historical borders)

politically in general it's = Polish ;)

Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]


That was exactly the problem in Poland, the most anti-not so merciful Poles were the fascist-right wing nut jobs towards Germans. (any enemy really)

Now back to the thread.
Ive heard there were plenty Jews siding with Poles during uprisings is this true?

News / "POLISH death camps" term used by "Parade Magazine" Anti-Polish Bigots [249]

"Though the Poles were anti-semitic, they were usually satisfied with random pogroms."
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wth?


Nope, the peak was after ww2

Before the war it was only some line on how many Jews could get to study since the percentage was higher then the Polish population. Also later on, can't remember if it was 1938 or 1939 that at Universities there were Jewish section and non-Jewish section or something.

I can't recall pogroms in pre-war Poland

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


Finally I found my source of admiration of German helmets! :o
I never though of it! (/&)(=!/)?(=`")?¤!

Life / Are foreigners welcome in Poland? [275]

"Are foreigners welcome in Poland?"
No, they are hunted. There are always wanted posters on criminal foreigners everywhere every time!

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


...
I thought he was French with a non-French accent ;)?

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


Ohh, fuew


wtf?!


Because Poland WANTS or thinks of herself as the eternal ally of the west, but that is changing dear friend! ;)

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


It was the only death camp? OMG! :o

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!?!?!?


That's why many Poles don't look at commie-Poles as Poles but more of as poles :)
(or just komuch they are their own "nationality")


For the last time... THE WERE SOVIETS!!! They had Jewish roots but they were SOVIETS!!!
Or some even Stalinists which is worse


I think it was the Dutch, their behind everything! I must have read somewhere that Hitler had an Dutch assistant. It's the Dutch fault!!!! (sarcasm off)

Huge impact of "Jewish" commies were transferred to Poland right after ww2 because
1. They wanted to get rid of them (theory not fact)
2. There were not many Polish commies left to give them the control because of the purges (even at that they were most unreliable if they didn't go through the Moscow "training") (Fact)

3. The communists in prewar Poland weren't even noticed so to speak, 1 of the reasons why "Nazi's" didn't occur in Poland or hard hated commies weren't that catching was because communists were in a tiny tiny tiny tiny little fraction

"Yet the party only managed to win 130,000 votes and two seats in the November 1922 elections."

"Despite that the KPP was now to be swept into the maelstrom of paranoia and suspicion that culminated in the Moscow trials and purges. First a number of its members were accused of being agents of the Polish regime, now led by The Colonels since Pilsudski's death in 1935, and liquidated as a result. Next almost the entire leading cadre of the party were enveloped by the Purges and murdered. Among those killed were: Albert Bronkowski, Krajewski, Józef Unszlicht, Adolf Warski, Maria Koszutska, Henryk Walecki, Lenski, Stanisław Bobiński, Ryng, Józef Feliks Ciszewski, Henrykowski, Sztande, Bruno Jasieński and Witold Wandurski. And still Stalin could not trust the Polish Communists and so finally the leaderless party was declared dissolved as a hotbed of Trotskyite agents. Most of the activists perished in the Great Purge, but some - particularly lower level - remained. During Soviet invasion of Poland in 1939 they were instrumental in organizing local population in Kresy to welcome the "liberators" of the Red Army.[2]"


Even the workers weren't that into this party because they opposed the new Polish state and was pro-Soviet Union during the Polish-Soviet war

This party had very little influence what so ever, later on "it" suddenly had great power after the war and many of the top leaders in the party had Jewish clinging names or looked Jewish or spoke kinda like Jews would speak when they tried to speak Polish. They were noticed, it still doesn't mean that the majority of Jews were commies in Poland (thank god ^^)

There were some Jewish parties during interwar Poland
Many of the Jews voted on Bund so I've heard from an former Isreali ambassador

Genealogy / IS SWAROVSKI POLISH? [19]

I can remember my mom telling my about his glass or something and that's what she likes about Poland for instance, having a lot of his glass. No idea if he has any Polish ancestry or not but. His glass is here no? :)

History / History of Poland in 10 minutes. Really worth seeing! [169]


Nevah ;)


I <3 it

Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]


Reminds me of Sweden

Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]


Indeed indeed


I wonder if there were any Jews in Poland giving flowers to the Wehrmacht hoping for a better future like the times of when Prussia was ruling, right BB? ;p

Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]


Let's hope so :)


Nope, neither was any of my grandparents but they were in Warsaw and I can't remember them telling me they were killing Jews and that they were doing it with a smile or anything really


Extremists in general I would say. People get desperate (my teacher from history and philosophy said that after a time they would seek a strong man like Napoleon, Hitler etc)


Ive got some in the cellar but I am not allowed to touch them sorry
(I also hate wine so now you know)


Yeah I guess so
(even "prostitutes" got their hair done in a bold fashion in Band of Brothers)
biggest hamper for Poland in this matter is the lack of documentation among Western historians.[/quote]
I completely agree with that one


Look at what people have written and respond? ;)

History / History of Poland in 10 minutes. Really worth seeing! [169]


BUT I WANT TO SEE IT!!! :(((((((((((((((((


WE ALL WANT TO!!!


Anti-Polish buah? Hhahahahaha that's a good one Sasha anti-Polish lalalala funny
That's like calling me Germanophob lol