History / Where did the power of Poland vanish to, since... let`s say, some 300 years ago? [180]


They just used the situation and pre-emptive striked. Without Prussia&Russia Taking lands from Poland. Austria wouldn't have a reason to enter in the first place. It was all so that Prussia&Russia wouldn't get too much. It was all grand picture plans about self defense.


Don't think they had any major power/influence until the creation of Austro-Hungarian Empire and that was AFTER the partitions...

I am starting to get Sok/I-S syndrome

History / Polish and other Slavic nobility in our time [71]


Even Jaruzelski was from an noble family, they made him a black sheep tho

History / PRUSSIA - Former Vassal of Poland later occupant | Nowadays Germany? [33]

I would say Germany does a lot better then Russia(former Soviet Union) after ww2 when comparing them both with their relationship with Poland. 1 big plus was that Poles and Germans shared their "animosity" towards the SU as them occupying their lands.

(both Western Prussia,Silesia and DDR hehe)

History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [871]


majority in the area, minority in Poland


read my sentence again


They were behind IT but all 3 agreed upon it

History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [871]

My family is an living evidence of that not being true, Mr
Also many other family's with German roots were allowed to stay. Most of those that went were opportunists or never wanting to see hell again. Or pro-Germany Germans. Those that didn't want it stayed.

Although fear of SU was a great motivator

Also Poland or Polish politicians had nothing to say, they were the losing side or pawns of SU (if you call those "Polish" commies Poles...) Soviet Union was the driving push of relocating any minority to where they wanted (Stalin to be specific).

History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [871]

So you were sincere in that "Poles expelled Germans and willingly wanted them out of the picture?"
No matter their political agenda?

History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [871]


"and the Germans got expelled in the West" Don't you mean?
and expelled the Germans, could be picked up as Poles wanted it and and did it by them self with great joy

twisting of words how lovely


There were minorities wanting peace, some other a Poland, some other an independent country of their own... Mix of mixing I would say :)

Back to the topic: Both nations have wrecked the country and killed Poles BUT, I can fairly add that an German soldier would offer some sausage to experience an family Christmas in Poland and Prussia (proto-Germany) tried to build up Polish terrain (for self gain, but non-theless) while Russian nation... Did what it did huhm

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]


You don't wanna know... I live in that country (if it's Norway ;))


yeah right... hahaha! Good one! Norwegians hiring a Polish women for an high income job LOL


Well ive been trained/learned to act like a knight :=) but it could have changed over the years...

History / Vikings in Pomerania (near Gdansk area)? [19]


That is correct, I remember from my history lessons of the Danes having huge influence in Eastern Norway.


Certainly but they loved France and Britain a bit more
I am guessing some of the Viking rulers/kings recruited men from the area of Pommerania for future campaigns in western Europe. I recall reading it somewhere...

History / How much Poles trust to France? [130]

After 1989 Poland was freshly out of the Warsaw pact and didn't "wake up" just yet.
I think you clearly know that a person which is asleep says no words

and while Poland didn't say any words how could the French know about Polish interessts in the balkans? I bet they even STILL don't know ;)

Nor care really
Napoleon's generation is gone and me like Frenchies no more

History / Polish pirates [58]

So adding any Polish pirates to "Pirates of the Caribean" would be "wrong"?

History / How much Poles trust to France? [130]


Those frog eaters sat in their trenches... Their airmen drinkign champagne as they hoped that it wouldn't be any war and their leaders praying for Mr. H to give up and sign a peace treaty! HOW ON EARTH WILL POLES EVER TRUST THEM AGAIN?! + Sarkozy was rude with the D-day celebration if I don't recall.

On the other hand De Gaulle... hmm
and that French anthem! :S

Some yes some no

Love / Polish girls and traditions (esp. between mother in laws and daughter in laws) [45]

I wish you good luck! and fun :)

Oh Get a grip!
Everyone has nightmares of brown-shirts invading your debating arena

News / "To understand Poland you must understand Frederic Chopin" (Stratfor Friedman) [74]

It has some points but the Japaneese has taken an economic path just like Germany did. Unless U.S.A will crumble or get so weakened it has nothing to say Japan will be where it is.

Food / Eat goulash from a cat and a steak from a dog in Poland! [114]


loco


We need it's oil and sometimes meat

Also it's a thrill to kill such a giant creature! ;)


LOCO II


goats eat everything ;)


the horror

News / Polish PM Tusk- dictator or not? What Poles think? [455]


You should know what they did when they got to know about the Germans wanting to take all their stamps! in 1939

gonon

What ye guys think? Crowist or un-informed slavo-phil or Polish patriot sharing some "slavic" feelings with his fellows slavic people?

Food / Eat goulash from a cat and a steak from a dog in Poland! [114]


I mean a real whale! Not a fantasy or a ... teddy like thing


indeed
Also the appearance! I don't have any sentiments towards Spiders but I wouldn't eat one...
and it's not per say disgusting like a snail

Food / Eat goulash from a cat and a steak from a dog in Poland! [114]

What's the problem about this whale stuff... Aren't we talking about pet's ---> food? Who has a whale as a pet? Come on! :)

(besides whale catching gives money so (censored) you all)

I would maybe have certain negative associations with food being made out of a dog infront of me (I would only think of my dogs) and if somebody would touch my dogs (like the police) they will taste my.... hidden powers!

History / Was Daniel Fahrenheit a Pole? [138]


Indeed

That's why many people have a misunderstanding when coming to American nationalism... Many have ethnicities from Europe or other places and are have some cultural roots from there. But in nationality= American

History / Was Daniel Fahrenheit a Pole? [138]

They spoke German AND Polish! We still do! the "polonization" your talking about haven't had full effect until it reached my dad which knew zipp German what so ever! Now ofcourse he tries to learn soem as he is working in an German company but but...


One can still be ethnically German and consider himself Polish by nationality! Polish nationalism is a bit more open then the German one BB. It had to accustom to all the minorities that allways been living IN Poland. That's why for instance there were Jews whom considered themselves to be Polish! Like in the pianist! When they were marching and throwing bread over the wall they were singing a Polish patriotic song... go figuere?


Well thank the Nazi's... After ww2 anybody even reminding anythign about Germans were a bad thing! + add nobel roots! The commie party WERE NOT fond of my family AT ALL!

History / Was Daniel Fahrenheit a Pole? [138]


Utter BS! My family is quite a good example of en "pre-German" family that became Polish! Why do you think so many Poles have German surnames? Hmm? Is it becaouse they thought of it as a trend? COME ON!

Being more prescise about Fahrenheit it's a large chance he is German as Danzig until 1945 were mostly German. (Although through periods of history they resisted the "main-Germans" the Prussians... He could maaaybe feel more Polish then Prussian if asked.. But ethnicly he was probably German and spoke German.

History / Was Daniel Fahrenheit a Pole? [138]


What on earth are you talking about? When the Germans invaded Poland people got caught and shot in the streets for no good reason. Having a German "paper" would save you from that... But my family felt disgust over the Nazi's and their "lackeys" so they didn't think they really were Germans... They felt more Polish then German in that sort of sense

History / Was Daniel Fahrenheit a Pole? [138]


Culturally they were more German... But in sense of nationality they felt more Polish then Germans... Especially at those times

History / Was Daniel Fahrenheit a Pole? [138]


I was talking about my Grunwald/Szulc side, not Milde


???

History / Was Daniel Fahrenheit a Pole? [138]


You take that back! The Germans insisted that my family were Germans as they derived from "Schultz" (They wrote it Szulc) but they said: "NO! We are Poles!" :)

So don't come here and tell me no Germans wanted to feel Polish! Lies!


No "true Poles" would ever had done that if you catch my drift...

Polish nationality is so complicated... At the same time anyone can become one... at other time only a few... It's so confusing!

Life / Why Polish people should be proud of being Polish? [370]


and some Poles wanted to free their peasents as well, that's why the Russians had some support from Polish aristocrats
after the constitution EVERYONE was equal to the law. Pitty it lasted so short :/


Thanks, just trying to explain why Poles are Poles and it isn't sucked out of a finger ;) (Polish expression)


You don't wanna know

Life / Why Polish people should be proud of being Polish? [370]


That's becaouse Ukraine (land&territory) was inherited by Poland as Kiev Rus had no heir left, while Lithuania allied herself with Poland and later made an union. After the constitution was created all those lands were "legally" Polands in terms as sucessor of the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth. Remember that Piłsudski that wanted to restore the commonwealth tried to make "Intermerrum" but it was the National-Democrats that ruled Poland until 1926 when Piłsudski did what he did.

The National-Democrats wanted an Poland with Poles as dominant majority and enlarge the Polish middle class. No minority in Poland wanted that. Later presecutions (thinking of Ukrainians) were caused from "revenge" or making a stand like: Ey I actually control this place. None of the alleged actions was aimed as destroying the whole nation.

That's what is meant with Poland didn't go colonial. The ones having the largest urge of going east was "converted" Ruthianians/Ukrainians or "converted" Lithuanians as they wanted to enlarge their safety as far as possible from home. the "Crowners" (from Crown) in Polish, didn't worry THAT much about their eastern problem as their eastern counterparts.

Poland got her interesst in owning those land from having a "moral" or "legal" right to have them. moral as keeping them safe from eastern hordes (Russians/Soviets) as legal ive explained earlier in the post. Ofcourse there allways been an military thought behind it aswell. But now it's mostly gone to diplomacy.

This is ofcourse entierly different then what Western countries did to other parts of the world introducing slavery to them (in a much broader sense, in many parts slavery was there allready) While Poland-Lithuania aimed at making Cossacks into farmers and so on.

Genealogy / Just found out I'm Polish! [45]


I come with theories, it's up to any individual to accept those theories or throw them at the junkyard... No need to be hostile!


I can't agree with that statement


Oh fine! Miss polite!


I was 100% serrious! Of course there is an possibility that the persons mentioned family changed names early in the stage of settling but, blacking out all options... Hello?

Genealogy / Just found out I'm Polish! [45]


Maaaybe there was some settlers in Poland from England/America, and then move to USA later?


Congratualtions!

History / Polish and other Slavic nobility in our time [71]


They want to look good, as they see themselves as better/an example of what other people look/should look like