Polonia / Elon Musk tells Germans to "move on"! [247]


My.....mighty busy for a fraud.....


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_career_of_Elon_Musk


I remember the worship by the world Left as his political views weren't known and everybody and his grandmom believed Silicon Valley and all these tech nerds are automatically also leftists.

Wow how that turned on its head as he dared to differ. Sometimes it seems achievements count nothing at all without the correct, accepted political views....

Reminds me abit about modern feminists....I learned nobody hates women more than feminists hate other women who disagree.

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1442]

Yeah.....Germany is going to miss them....to bad!

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1442]

@Alien

...just an idea, maybe the Wahl-O-Mat can help you with your choice? 🙂

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1442]


My Wahl-O-Mat result (today made in SPIEGEL):

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  No surprise somehow.....
  

History / Recommended Poland's history books [257]


...nice mentality! :)

But I wouldn't talk down "individuality" so much, after all that is the reason why the capitalist countries never have to ask for immigrants, they come running! The promise of fulfilling individual dreams...no "collective-ideology-society" can hold a leg to that, never could!

History / Recommended Poland's history books [257]


Serious question here....if you yourself could and needed to chose during Stalins times, where would you prefer to live....US or Sovietunion?

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1442]

.....yeah....she better shut her mouth, she did enough during her rule...

I truly think she did chose the wrong party after the wall fell, she should had made a career in the SPD...or PDS....or Greens....that would had been better for the country!

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1442]


No, they won't! Every survey and poll makes that clear, the majority wants a change....strongly and quickly!

But the people on the streets are alot better organized and used to protesting and screaming....but in three weeks is election, these results can't be demanded or forced. And the worse they behave now the more people won't vote for them...


I doubt that very much.....the numbers for the CDU and even Merz are stable in the actual surveys! A "disaster" would look differently...

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1442]

Actually Merz gave me hope, no longer the wishy-washy pussy....and Merkel criticized him, that is always a badge of honor!

Polonia / Elon Musk tells Germans to "move on"! [247]


Am NOT! :)

Polonia / Elon Musk tells Germans to "move on"! [247]

I doubt Hitler's ghost would be a good medium, neither would be Honecker's.....there is a huge difference between killing people wanting to get OUT and people wanting to live in your home, unasked and unwanted!

So....is that the way of a Leftie anwering a question he doesn't really like? ;)

Polonia / Elon Musk tells Germans to "move on"! [247]

Would you defending your home and killing the burglar also call a crime? Should the killer be punished?

What is the difference to a border? Is a nation not allowed to guard its borders like its homes? To keep control who is allowed entry and who not?

Polonia / Elon Musk tells Germans to "move on"! [247]


...that sounds rather human. Natural human reactions....but it must be said that wasn't a continous thing for all to all times.

As the Cold War startet the western allies needed the western Germans and toned down all that.....the same happened in the East. The Nazi crimes and the punishment for that faded into the background of actual politics.
As was mentioned already....it had been the "roaring Sixties", the 68er youth rebellion (if you call it like that), the next generation, which had nothing to do with that, which started to bring it to the forefront again and pointing fingers at the many ex-Nazis in gov and society....also only in the West that ist...in the East it was not much of a topic for forty years at all (especially the Holocaust that is) besides the glorious victory of Communism over Capitalism.

As I remember it became a big topic again in the course of the re-unificaton of West and East.....mainly stemming from fear of a to-strong Germany again...and unresolved reparation questions and re-negotiated borders and such...and here we are!

Polonia / Elon Musk tells Germans to "move on"! [247]


Yeah....there isn't an East German who does not remember that from school....and it had quite the impact on us. One of the main reasons ex-GDRler are often so much more Russia-friendly than their western compatriots.

Now I have to run....'night all! :)

Polonia / Elon Musk tells Germans to "move on"! [247]


Refreshing! :)

But alot more people do....and not apologizing/atoning enough is easily seen and called as "Nazi" and can negatively influencing a political career, national and international.

It is what it is and neither of us will change it in the near future! *shrugs*

Till tomorrow all *waves*

Polonia / Elon Musk tells Germans to "move on"! [247]


Now that is not that radical, I think....in german we call it "Erbschaftssteuer" (Inheritence tax), and it is widely accepted, even by the rich!

Polonia / Elon Musk tells Germans to "move on"! [247]


I doubt that actual Germans can truly apologize, they have done nothing wrong. Everything we do and say has to be fake, its the nature of the things. I think there are a few true responsible people still alive....but most are no longer!

One actual example....recently Robert Habeck, the leader of the german Greens posted on X a video with him seen walking through Auschwitz....he took part in the memorial ceremony for the 80th anniversary of the Liberation. Of course he showed atonement, his great-grandfather was a convicted Obersturmführer in the SA.

x.com/roberthabeck/status/1883957857495953822

So....tell me Iron....will he truly ever be in the right position to apologize for the deeds of his great-grandfather? And....would you ever believe him? Even knowing it has to be fake?

On the other hand, he can't do nothing, can't he? A german politician ignoring that place, that date....how would you react? Would you accept that?

Polonia / Elon Musk tells Germans to "move on"! [247]

@Barney

Who do you think should do that? How should that work?

The moment one gov leader makes moves to restrain that wealth the holder of said wealth just moves to another country....and takes his industry, his patents, his tech with him. Leaving only unemployed and poorer people behind.

Polonia / Elon Musk tells Germans to "move on"! [247]

Thing is....when has to take the wealth from the rich EVER made the world better?

We have now some experience with that vision...it never ended well. Maybe it's time to accept that people, economies don't work that way!

Polonia / Elon Musk tells Germans to "move on"! [247]


There is alot of truth innit!


Frankly I think he doesn't know much about that....and how could he, a south african inventor and developer come tech mogul....

Polonia / Elon Musk tells Germans to "move on"! [247]

.....that brings me back to my absolutely unnecessary lament earlier....the east german dictatorship from '49 to '89 was very nationalistic....we were big on flag-waving and glorifying hymn, adoring poetry and everything, after all there war nothing else to keep the people together, also something nobody seemingly took/takes offence with, surely didn't put it into one direct line with the Holocaust and the Death Camps, I guess.

But maybe one reason why the AfD finds it more easier in the eastern half of the country, today.

Polonia / Elon Musk tells Germans to "move on"! [247]

I always wondered about that.....it's nothing wrong with "never forgetting", but most people seem only be concerned with our history till '45....totally "forgetting" our history which ended '89.

All that "never again" still happened nearly as a true copy (without the death camps mind you) in one half of the country for decades afterwards, only then called "socialism". All that one-party-dictatorship with the military parades, the kids in uniform and streamlined one-opinion-media, with a populace 99% pro-gov (or else!)...quietly, disturbingly ignored!

Off-Topic / AfD Party is growing ever more powerful throughout country [187]

Trump was the start....now all depends if and how he "delivers". Is he successful than his allies in Europe can and will build on that, the world is watching!

Off-Topic / AfD Party is growing ever more powerful throughout country [187]

*nods*

And that most leftists don't acknowledge the fact that their vision and ideals helps mainly the big rich capital and their firms supports your judgement that they are just not very bright! *shrugs*

Off-Topic / AfD Party is growing ever more powerful throughout country [187]


Think back to '89.....the end of "history"! For decades highly guarded borders fell and people were able to move again....open borders were seen widely as a good thing, meaning freedom!

The other big part was that the economies internationalized....wandering worker masses meant less production costs because of lower salaries....for a few decades lotsa people profited from open borders and open economies, from unified countries....nobody thought that would ever change, but change it did!

The age of globalization is now ending, the economies are about to be re-nationalized....hence the anti-immigration movements are winning....at the end will be re-build borders.

But you can't say that only leftist morons were for open borders....quite the contrary....they did build an unholy alliance with the great capital, the big firms, their sworn enemy, to keep the borders open and the cheapest workforce coming. I doubt they have accepted and acknowledged that fact till now actually....

Off-Topic / AfD Party is growing ever more powerful throughout country [187]

....frankly IMHO the AfD is incredible successful from the opposition bank right now! There is no need to become part of the gov.

The "old" parties can't do to much differently than the AfD demands, knowing the majority of the people is behind her (in the migration question).....tricky situation for her enemies and a truly sweet spot for Weidel, Höcke and Co!

Off-Topic / AfD Party is growing ever more powerful throughout country [187]


Does that mean we won in the end??? Heh:) 😎

USA, Canada / Will Americans flee from the US to Poland? [186]

Jon is okay.....and anyhow, talking with myself and likeminded gets boring quickly! :)

USA, Canada / Will Americans flee from the US to Poland? [186]


Just waving to a crowd can easily end up in such a "salute".....it's a danger for every politician.....there are photos!


Musk a Nazi???? Wot???

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  Politicians making the salute....
  

USA, Canada / Will Americans flee from the US to Poland? [186]

.....at least most people tend to forget to avoid using that special form regularly....

Then there are those who use that purposely, but usually people know that when they do!