History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]

Ewa Faryaszewska was born in 1920 in Dąbrowa Górnicza. After her father died in 1938 she moved with her mother and siblings to Warsaw. She was a scout and studied painting at the Academy of Fine Arts in Warsaw. During the Nazi occupation she was a corporal in the Home Army scout battalion "Wigry". At the time of the Warsaw Uprising she was a member of a team responsible for saving Polish national cultural heritage. Since photography was also her passion she was documenting the destruction of Warsaw's Old Town by taking colour photos. A book was published with her photographs:

muzeumwarszawy.pl/fotografie-ruin-ruiny-fotografii-1944-2014/





Today is her death anniversary. She was badly injured in the Warsaw Uprising and died on August 28, 1944. She was 24. 🪔

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Travel / Tourism in Poland [41]


That was my answer to jon357's question whether the chain hotel near the former synagogue in Kielce is a Novotel hotel (Admin cut out the quote in my post).

Travel / Tourism in Poland [41]


Now you are assuming things :))) I'm sure those women dressed nicely, etc. for such a lunch. Also, apparently minis were not uncommon in the 90s in Poland, so who knows what they were wearing and how conservative that hotel owner was ;) I don't know this lady and I don't know what those wives were dressed like, but I know life and what is going on in hotels and at those conferences and delegations, etc., so... All I'm saying is that I'm not terribly surprised by her assumptions.


Yup, so you know what I'm talking about...


Eww... Fortunately, I haven't had such problems in the hotels I've stayed so far (I mean them being dirty or sth).

Travel / Tourism in Poland [41]


No idea, to be honest...


I've never heard of such an event, but I imagine how surreal it must've been to witness it :)))


This sounds wonderful and those thick stone walls must be great during summer :))

Travel / Tourism in Poland [41]


Could be, but considering the circumstances I'm not surprised in the least by what she assumed...

There are "high-end" prostitutes who don't dress like streetwalkers and there are rich businessmen who take their "sugar babies" to business trips and bring them to business dinners while the oblivious wives stay at home... Those "sugar babies" are usually much younger, but "ordinary" prostitutes come in all ages, so I guess you never know... But, yeah, as I wrote, the hotel owner should at least do some research first lol

I think you mean the former Ibis hotel (now it belongs to B&B Hotels).

Language / Będę kupowała/będę kupić [18]

Men shop too. And women buy too.


Google Translate sucks as much as you do lol

Travel / Tourism in Poland [41]


Fun fact - in Polish translation/dubbing of "How to Train Your Dragon" one of the dragons (Meatlug) is named after that dish - "Sztukamięs" :):

jakwytresowacsmoka.fandom.com/wiki/Sztukami%C4%99s


In Poland? I've got to say I've never heard about such case...

It was obviously an honest mistake on the part of the owner - it's not like it's unusual for men to bring prostitutes into hotels (and lie to the hotel staff that they're not prostitutes). Especially that it was happening in the 90s. I'm sure she has seen her fair share as a hotel owner and she has the right to not want her hotel to turn into a brothel like the one for lorry drivers where your underwear got stolen lol Her hotel - her rules. The problem was that she prejudged without making any inquiry and as result made a fool of herself. On the other hand, I can't blame her that much for thinking what she was thinking - how often does it happen that husbands invite their wives to conferences or delegations? Come on... :)))


Interesting... I wonder why? 🤔

Travel / Tourism in Poland [41]

@jon357 & Alien, thanks for sharing :)


What... LOL


Sztuka mięsa :):

sjp.pwn.pl/sjp/sztuka-miesa;2483177.html

"A cooked cut of beef served as a dish."

doradcasmaku.pl/przepis-sztukamies-czyli-sztuka-miesa-297482

My mother would usually make it with sauce.


It would be interesting to read more, but I'll wait patiently :)))

Travel / Tourism in Poland [41]

An internet add of a Polish hotel became a hit thanks to the way one of their employees, Barbara, advertised it (very "enthusiastically" ;D):

Apparently this is based on a commercial by some company, but I don't know which (does anyone know?)

The add is on the profile of the hotel on Instagram (the one with the lady in the blue suit standing in the lobby):

instagram.com/elements_swieradow?igsh=NWxkbHN4Mm93bXVp

"Tu nie wolno."
"Tu też nie wolno."
"Tu piciu."
"Tu rzeźba."
"Tu ciepło."
"Tu zimno."

;D

Someone in the comments wrote that it's a nice change after all those "overstimulating" adds :)
I've researched this hotel though and judging by the opinions it doesn't live up to those 5 stars. Pity.

The add did inspire some others to follow in the footsteps of that hotel however :)

The police in Wołów made their own "add" in this fashion and it went viral too :):

fakt.pl/wydarzenia/polska/wroclaw/internet-zakochal-sie-w-policji-z-wolowa-wszystko-przez-ten-filmik/xsyr421

And here an artist-Youtuber who mainly draws with coloured pencils talks about what he does and his work place in a similar way :):

youtube.com/shorts/Kk2DpJnflZM?si=8kDtvpA6Hpp2fpKp

Btw, what do you guys think about the hotels you've stayed in Poland so far? Do you have any interesting stories? Good/bad opinions? Any recommendations? Hotels to avoid? Any interesting/memorable interiors? Good food? Nice locations?

History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]


I've read the beginning of this article that is available for free and I think this newspaper should be renamed "Od Rzeczy", because just based on that fragment I can see it's nonsense.


I think that anyone with a brain and capable of logical thinking realises that nothing "remains to be seen" lol A chunk of Ukraine was part of our country for quite a while and they didn't "Ukranise" Poland, so how could they possibly do that now? lol

There are 2 mln Ukrainians in Poland presently and this number stabilised - there's no increase:

businessinsider.com.pl/wiadomosci/oto-ile-ukraincy-wydaja-w-polsce-sa-nowe-dane/whz72mv

I'm not sure if the author of the article in "Do Rzeczy" understands what the term "Ukrainisation" even means o_O 🤦


Yeah, I've experienced it myself lol

Food / What do non-Poles think about eating the following Polish foods? [1450]


Good to know! :) I think I remember my mother adding buckwheat groats (kasza gryczana) to kotlety mielone once, but I haven't become a fan of that...


You mean flavour-wise? 🤔

Food / What do non-Poles think about eating the following Polish foods? [1450]

@jon357, yeah, this discussion is mouthwatering ;D

As for the Valastro's recipe for those zucchini patties - there's cheese in that one too, I just meant that it doesn't have to be parmesan in particular - any "yellow cheese" will do the job :)


Wow, so you're a culinary pioneer! :)

I see a moderator is in action again messing up my post: 🙄


This was my response to Feniks and Lenka who wrote that they'd like to try out those zucchini patties I posted about.


Is that an Ukrainian thing though? 🤔 We do that in my family too... I'd say it's a standard for kotlety mielone recipe :)

Food / What do non-Poles think about eating the following Polish foods? [1450]


Hmm, sounds interesting... 🤔 I like experimenting, so why not! :) Have you tried it yourself?


Interesting - does this dish have any particular name in English?

They're definitely worth a try, imho! :)))

Food / What do non-Poles think about eating the following Polish foods? [1450]

@Lenka, those zucchini "meatballs" sound great too! :d


Why is that?


Mine look a bit different than in the video - they're bigger and flatter (I fry them like placki ziemniaczane) and they're not as brown as hers. The colour is more like in this recipe:

allrecipes.com/recipe/13941/zucchini-patties/



I just use ordinary cheese and flour instead of that Bisquick thing that Valastro's wife used in the video (I think I even remember frying them without flour). If you don't like parsley then don't add it or add just a little bit - they're still very tasty without it :)


The veggies soaking up that smoky sausage flavour... So good and juicy... Great smell too... ;O

Food / What do non-Poles think about eating the following Polish foods? [1450]


I think zuchhinis are great! I love them in a version of leczo (Hungarian lecsó) that my family makes - yum! :d

polonist.com/polish-leczo-kielbasa-and-peppers/

I honestly can even eat it when it's only zuchhini and sausage in it, without the peppers and tomatoes :)


Zuchhinis are great when fried! The smell is amazing! I really like the recipe I learned from Buddy Valastro for zucchini patties when watching his show - here's a video of his wife making them (it's her mom's recipe):

News / Dirty deeds of foreign guys in Poland [128]




I find it ironic how RuSSians accuse everyone around them of being "Russophobic", but at the same time they're such prejudiced, xenophobic, megalomaniac, hateful and vengeful people themselves.

Food / Help with Polish recipe - Żurek soup? [25]


And this was in response to Feniks, who wrote: "It sounds like your mother was trying to extract any remaining liquid in the cheese by pressing it." Sorry, the moderator messed up my post and it can be confusing now :(

Food / Help with Polish recipe - Żurek soup? [25]

Btw, as it is mentioned on the site I linked to - you can use twaróg for other Polish traditional food, like pierogi, naleśniki and sernik (cheesecake) :) ❤️


That was of course addressed to mbadach, but it looks like a moderator cut out the quote from my post.

Food / Help with Polish recipe - Żurek soup? [25]


Yup.

We don't put cheese into żurek in my family, but żurek recipes vary a bit depending on the region of Poland. The one your mother made sounds like żurek benedyktyński (the Benedictine sour rye soup).


In Polish it's called "ser biały" (white cheese) or "twaróg".


polonist.com/farmers-cheese-twarog/

Yes, the remaining liquid is called "serwatka" in Polish (in English it's called "whey"). My grandma would hang the cheese in the cheesecloth tied to a knob of a kitchen cupboard and let the liquid drip (it takes a while). It would have such shape:

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History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


Ah, from Nazi propaganda, I'm guessing - it looks like the Nazis liked to cover up stuff with "RAF bombings":

nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/last-days-dachau-concentration-camp

"Elser, who had only recently been transferred to Dachau after spending much of the war in the Sachsenhausen concentration camp, was executed with a shot in the back of the neck on the orders of Heinrich Himmler. Himmler commanded that responsibility for Elser's death be attributed to a raid by the Royal Air Force."

Btw, I've seen a documentary about the liberation of Dachau camp by American troops. In that documentary they showed photos and videos of those trains filled with bodies mentioned in that link I posted:

"They discovered a train comprised of about 40 cars, literally overflowing with corpses."

Here are some of the videos:

collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn1004173

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


Read again then:

"As part of the overall liquidation of the evidence of crime, crematoria II and III together with their gas chambers were partially dismantled in late 1944, and ,blown up in January 1945. Crematorium IV was partially burned during the Sonderkommando mutiny on October 7, 1944, and later dismantled. Crematorium V functioned until the very end, and was blown up on January 26, 1945, the day before the liberation of the camp."

Why would you blow up crematoria in January 1945 and the day before the camp's liberation if not to hide the evidence? They could just leave them as they were.

In case you didn't know - the gas chambers at Auschwitz-Birkenau were destroyed by the order of Heinrich Himmler, head of the SS, which he gave in November 1944 - when it was already obvious that the Nazi Germany is going to lose the war.


The guards failed to destroy some of the storerooms - what was left there is what you can see on display.


The reason is given here:

history.com/news/how-the-nazis-tried-to-cover-up-their-crimes-at-auschwitz

"The Nazis' goal wasn't only to destroy evidence of the camp: They had plans to force the prisoners to serve as slave laborers for the Reich. (...)
The only people left behind in the camp were people deemed unfit for labor-those who were too ill or weak. An SS order came down to murder any prisoners who were left, and the SS killed about 700 prisoners in response. However, order at the camp was breaking down. SS officers began escaping themselves, and the strict hierarchy that had kept prisoners in line disappeared. Those officers who stayed burned documents in a last-ditch attempt to hide their crimes."

So, tell me, Poloniusz, do you think that the Holocaust didn't happen?


Because the exact same thing didn't happen to others - only Jews were the Nazis' target for a complete genocide - the purpose of death camps was the annihilation of Jews. Omitting that fact was falsifying history.

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


It was obviously way easier and quicker to burn sheets of paper than to destroy "everything that is now on display", although they did try:

auschwitz.org/en/history/auschwitz-and-shoah/the-demolition-of-the-gas-chambers/

Btw, have you heard about the "death march"?:

auschwitz.org/en/history/evacuation/the-final-evacuation-and-liquidation-of-the-camp/


?
I think he complained about basic facts not being mentioned.

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


What "other evidence"?

Are you a Holocaust denier too? 🤨


Perhaps that was the case, I don't know - I can't read the article ("not available in my region" for some reason), so I don't know where the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Council in Washington got that info from (about Soviet reasons behind those numbers).

However, Pilecki was giving similar numbers - from 2 to 5 million and I don't think he's being accused of "concocting" those numbers for some kind of political reasons.

And what was the official number given in the West?


That was true about PRL, I don't know about the Soviet Union. I remember that Spielberg complained that when he visited Auschwitz-Birkenau for the first time (or during filming "Schindler's List" - I don't remember exactly) the tour guide kept saying that "people" were murdered there, without mentioning that majority of them were Jews. I don't see how a higher number of victims would somehow "de-Judaize" Auschwitz though. 🤔

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


I wonder how people like you come into being? How do you become so retarded? lol Are your parents as retarded as you? Where do you get your "ideas" from? lol

News / A Polish Feminist Found in a Forest [133]

@Novichok, not every woman is a little Suzie... lol



But, yeah, I'm a "little Suzie" myself and I would be unfit for a soldier in a combat role.

In the ideal scenario only people who are fit to be soldiers become soldiers, but in times of war, when your country is being invaded, you may start running out of men and women may have to fill in some gaps.

From what I've read there's shortage of candidates for soldiers in the US army. The same is with Polish police - somehow those brave, big men don't want to serve the society as police officers. So the Polish police is hiring whomever is willing, including women. I don't know about you, but I'd rather have a female officer answer my call in case of emergency than noone at all:

bbc.com/news/world-australia-68806806

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


Pawian wrote "were", not "are".


?
You mean a certain type of Poles, surely :)

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


But Witold Pilecki wasn't a Stalinist, you dumb asswipe lol


The starvation in Auschwitz wasn't caused by any bombing. It was due to food rations arbitrarily fixed by the Nazis - those food rations were too small to survive in the camp conditions. According to the estimate by the Nazis themselves they were enough to survive for around 3 months. They knew what they were doing. The only clothes that prisoners had to wear, no matter the weather and season, were underwear and thin striped clothes. That wasn't due to "Allied bombings" either. The Nazis simply wanted the Jews to die and they didn't care if the non-Jewish prisoners will live or die either.


No, that is exactly your mindset. Your Holocaust denial is your faith. You don't care about facts, evidence, witnesses and historical research. You believe against all historical knowledge that Holocaust didn't happen, because you want to believe.


Fortunately you don't get to decide who can live in Poland and who can't :))) And, btw, ty się chyba z dupą na głowę zamieniłeś :D

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]

@call1n, you're sick in the head.


That was the Soviet Union estimate. The Nazis destroyed most of the documentation, so it wasn't known how many exactly people were murdered. The Soviet committee made a mathematical estimate - they took into consideration the number of days and the capacity of crematoria. According to the report of Witold Pilecki, who was a prisoner of Auschwitz-Birkenau camp himself, it could be from 2 million to 5 million people.

A quote from Wikipedia (my translation from Polish):

"When I went out from Auschwitz (27.04.1943) 97 000 prisoners with tattooed numbers were murdered. That number had nothing to do with with the number of undocumented people who were being gassed and burned by their masses. Over two million of them were killed. I've given those numbers roughly in order not to exaggerate. My colleagues, who were prisoners for longer than me and witnessed 8000 people being gassed a day, give the estimate of 5 million people."

So, the problem was that up to 80% people who were sent to Auschwitz-Birkenau camp didn't get to be prisoners - after arrival at the camp they were sent straight to gas chambers and burnt. Those were Jews from Poland and all over Europe.
So, there was even no bodies that you could count after the camp was liberated.

As you can see - those higher numbers weren't due to some kind of ill will or intent to fool people. Over the years due to historical research those numbers were simply verified.

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


In Auschwitz-Birkenau camp alone around 1 million Jews, 70 000 Poles, 21 000 Roma people and 14 000 Soviet POWs were murdered. It would be simply impossible to save so many people in an occupied country. Your anti-Semitism damaged your brain lol

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


Dude, who ate your brain?

That is not even funny...