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Torq   
24 Mar 2025
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20 [1576]

and some Polish in me

... and what have I been saying all the time? :)

Anyways, don't get me wrong, kiddo. As far as I'm concerned, you could be a black French-speaking messianic Jew who identifies as lesbian Eskimo, and it wouldn't change my attitude towards you at all. I would still consider you my friend (an online one but still). This whole ethnicity thing is overrated; what's in the heart matters.

I hope I have demonstrated clearly an allergy to all forms of racism.

You have indeed done so.

Eh that's not me.

Hmm... must have been Veli then.
Torq   
24 Mar 2025
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20 [1576]

Why?

Lemme see... *turns on the special Polish paranoia amplifier*... OK, first this Blok's poem about slant-eyed wild barbarians, then there was this weird song about stalinism in some Asian Soviet republic (or am I imagining things?), allergy to anti-Asian racism, saying that it's an honour to be called a Mongol... oh, and suspicious knowledge of Islamic phrases in Arabic...

OK, let me take a wild guess - a Kazakh?

It's the same thing.

If you say so.
Torq   
24 Mar 2025
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20 [1576]

@Bobko

Oh, OK, I misread that.

That is, I'm an atypical Russian.

Definitely.

In my typical Polish paranoia, I begin to suspect that you are not Russian at all... well, maybe Россиянин but not necessarily Русский?

The Protestant virus has embedded itself too deeply in my brain.

Don't even remind me. I was bitten once too. :-/

Russians are good Christian people that despise wealth and wealthy people - as any real Christian should.

Well, maybe I would replace 'despise' with 'approach with caution' but I'm glad to hear that. Another platform of understanding where our two peoples may one day meet in their renewed love and brotherhood.
Torq   
24 Mar 2025
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20 [1576]

I would appreciate if the CC refrained from

You see, that's the beauty of it: CC doesn't have to give a flying f*ck what you, or president Trump, or the Devil himself would or wouldn't appreciate. That's the kind of Church that the world needs--rich and powerful enough not to be afraid to criticize anyone, and impossible to be controlled or bought by anyone. Orthodox Churches are usually under their respective governments' boots and most protestant churches either become fully worldly or are marginalized and ignored.

So, it's the Holy and Eternal Rome which is the light and beacon on our journey to Christ. No other option really.
Torq   
24 Mar 2025
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20 [1576]

Why that necessity to serve foreign country?

Because this tiny foreign country is well capable of defending traditional values all over the world, supporting family and marriage or being against divorce and abortion, precisely because it's independent of any particular government. It's universality and supraethnicity, as well as it's wealth and presence all over the world, allow it to show its middle finger to all those who would like to enslave and manipulate good people of Christ.

As much as we might not like certain aspects of clericalism or frown upon this or that crooked priest, the Catholic Church in general is an immense force for good in the world.
Torq   
24 Mar 2025
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20 [1576]

Poland is hypnotized.

No, she's not. We are not hypnotized because we are followers of the One-and-Only, Holy and Apostolic, Roman Catholic Church. Orthodox Churches, autocephalous and ethnocentric, are an easy prey for the governments of their respective countries and end up as tools used for those in power. RCC is truly Catholic, supraethnic and universal.

Smile, Crow, the Pope sends you his blessing...



... from Vatican with love.

greed which is not a bad thing in the US

Exactly. Many of them treat their multi-millionaires with almost religious reverence. They should really mend their ways, it's bordering on idolatry.

We shall find the path.

The path to Rome.
Torq   
24 Mar 2025
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20 [1576]

Not true. It's the same in Russia. Maybe even more hypertrophied.

Is it? I didn't notice it from our PF Russians here. At least I don't recall you guys calling Putin an idiot or a thief or whatever - mostly it's full reverence. Pay attention then to what some Polish posters here write about Duda or Tusk and notice the difference. ;)

If you are poorer than me - it means you are an idiot. I think you might be getting this sense from me.

Hmm... not really. I mean, you like to make long and winded posts sometimes but you don't really strike me as someone who either considers other people idiots or hates wealth.
Torq   
24 Mar 2025
Off-Topic / JR Jim and Jerzy/Pawian. [16]

One should not cast stones at others, as we are also sinners.

Hear, hear.

Anyways, this is going to Random soon, as threads about specific posters are not allowed.
Torq   
24 Mar 2025
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20 [1576]

Everything Trump is doing now - is a war on the elites.

Spot on. That's why he wants to divide Europe. He knows his war on American elites won't be fully successful if he doesn't also weaken the European liberal elites.

Our elites, in Russia, are no elites at all.

I know what you mean. It's similar in Poland, I suppose, with one notable difference in social approach to elites - Poles don't treat their ruling elites with reverence. We generally consider them thieves and retards, and we make no secret of it. Russians tend to approach those in power with much more admiration.

No one with 156 IQ needs to cheat.

As far as I know Trump has never publicly released an official IQ test score, so I don't know where you got this number from. Some people say 73, which I also doubt. It's probably somewhere around the arithmetic average of this and your number.
Torq   
24 Mar 2025
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20 [1576]

I wonder how long before they go full-Nazi.

Because, unfortunately, as history taught us over and over again - you cannot adopt certain elements of nazism--admiration for authoritarianism and totalitarian dictators, aversion and distrust towards foreigners, cult of leadership (see what some Americans here write about Trump--notice the level of worship), anti-modernism and nationalist ideology, persecution of minorities (first only verbal, then legal, then physical), tendency towards violence in relations with weaker countries--you cannot do all that without eventually going full-nazi.

Alas.
Torq   
24 Mar 2025
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20 [1576]

So tired of this. I call it racism

Alas. It's a recurring pattern in the world's history, and it looks like we might have the Anschluss of Greenland after all...

kyivpost.com/post/49464

... I wonder how long before they go full-Nazi.
Torq   
24 Mar 2025
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20 [1576]

I forgot to hold up my 'sarcasm' sign again

Well, obviously you meant 'lack of insight' and not 'insight'. However, it wasn't about lack of insight but about greed; all about profit - the Golden Cow of modern world.
Torq   
24 Mar 2025
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20 [1576]

@mafketis

It wasn't about foresight or lack of it but about greed. If a Chinese 11-year-old girl can do the same job for a friction of the price, then why not move all the industry to China? Profit, profit uber alles!
Torq   
24 Mar 2025
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20 [1576]

we can at least stock up on those.drones

Definitely. Drone forces are going to be a separate branch of Polish Army...

aviation24.pl/?view=article&id=11931:w-wojsku-polskim-powstana-samodzielne-wojska-dronowe&catid=61

... we have to keep up with the latest technology.
Torq   
24 Mar 2025
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20 [1576]

I'm wondering about one more thing. If there is no real chance for us to have our own nuclear weapons, does it even make sense to build a strong mass army (with conscription)? Such an army would be a huge temptation for the Americans and the British to throw it against the Russians once Ukraine is 'spent.'

It's a bit of a no-win situation - once we have the strongest and most modern land army in Europe, our ruling "elites" will definitely let themselves be goaded by the Brits and Americans into fighting Russia. On the other hand, if we are weak, it will provoke Russia to attack... damned if we do, damned if we don't.

All we need is nukes, as the song goes. :-/
Torq   
24 Mar 2025
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20 [1576]

they will get a very bloody nose if they attack Poland

...but they don't believe it, so they will test it.

Of course, in such case you are going to come back to Poland and help with the defense. Right, Milo?

Right?
Torq   
24 Mar 2025
News / Nukes and Poland's Neutrality [99]

No point in calling him a "tyrant" your stupid press is notorious for.

Press writes whatever they want to write - that's the whole concept of free press.

But you're right, we shouldn't be talking too much about Poland's real plans. Or Polish press should do some maskirovka of their own and report self-contradictory things... no, wait a minute... that's exactly what they're doing all the time. xD
Torq   
23 Mar 2025
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20 [1576]

Sure, you just love the lies and repeatably write about them.

I posted links to the articles. I also listed 10 of Trumps lies and I could list more, but it wouldn't make sense - you are not a rational human being, you are a Trump worshipper. No point arguing with you.
Torq   
23 Mar 2025
News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20 [1576]

Yes, third hand russian propaganda filtered through western useful idiots

... and it's amazing how easily they fall for it.

vladislav-sourkov

I read the interview. Nothing new in it. Russkiy Mir, gathering of Russian lands, Ukraine being an artificial quasi-state, "Russia is where we are", "we will spread out in all directions, as far as God wills", political authoritarianism, the role of the Orthodox Church - the guy is like taken out of Sorokin's books. L'Express could as well have interviewed Crow - the content of the article would be exactly the same (well, maybe additionally Serbia would have been mentioned).
Torq   
23 Mar 2025
Po polsku / Polska Broń Atomowa [106]

Ale chuj, lepiej ruszyć w choćby błednym kierunku, niż czekać nie wiadomo kurwa na co.

Oczywiście.

Przecież były już nawet prowadzone rozmowy z Iranem (pisałem o tym parę razy w innych wątkach) i kto wie czy ten kierunek nieoficjalnie i po cichu nie będzie kontynuowany w jakimś tam zakresie. Ukraińcy mają know-how, ale sytuacja jest tam teraz niestabilna, mówiąc delikatnie. Na pewno trzeba zacząć robić to o czym pisałem wcześniej, a w międzyczasie próbować działać na scenie międzynarodowej. Niestety jest mało czasu, więc musimy robić dużo rzeczy na raz.
Torq   
23 Mar 2025
News / Nukes and Poland's Neutrality [99]

It depends on the alternatives.

The situation in which Poland might find herself in the Russkiy Mir would require a set of specific circumstances:

- the US withdrawing completely from Europe (about 25% chance)
- Ukraine losing the war decisively (about 50%)
- Russia managing to gather enough forces to attempt the conquest of Poland (50%)
- Poland failing to get nuclear weapons on time (80%)
- Poland failing to build sufficient conventional forces to make the invasion unprofitable (5%)
- French nuclear umbrella turning out to be a bluff (99%)
- Europe failing to unite sufficiently (50%)
- European NATO/EU countries not coming to Poland's aid (25%)
- even the closest allies (Scandinavia, Germany, Czechia) not joining the war on Poland's side (15%)
- the EU failing to get an extensive trade deal with China (a very important event, in case of likely American-Chinese trade war, and possibly conventional war) (50%)
- the EU failing to come to some sort of agreement with China after the US withdrawal (25%)
- China allowing Russia to go on a rampage in Europe, disrupting their trade and communication lines (10%)

... the joint probability of all these events taking place is about 0,0000006%, so not very likely (to put it mildly).
Torq   
23 Mar 2025
News / Nukes and Poland's Neutrality [99]

Less than 10%

That's 4 million.

Well organized 5% is plenty.

That's still 2 million Poles wanting to be a part of Russkiy Mir. Good luck finding them.
Torq   
23 Mar 2025
News / Nukes and Poland's Neutrality [99]

Russia would simply organize a revolution in Poland - just as the US organized one in Kiev in 2014.

You're not thinking clearly.

It was easy for the US to organize the revolution in Kiev because millions of Ukrainians wanted to be a part of the West. Where would you find millions of Poles to organize a revolution to be a part of Russkiy Mir?
Torq   
23 Mar 2025
Po polsku / Polska Broń Atomowa [106]

Głównym celem partnerstwa powinna być maksymalizacja transferu technologii i know-how umożliwiającego szybsze zbudowanie rodzimego przemysłu jądrowego

Jasne, ale na początek od kogoś trzeba mieć to know-how (w sumie można też pójść w kierunku ukraińskim, w zależności od ostatecznego wyniku tej wojny), bo opracowywanie wszystkiego od zera samodzielnie zajęłoby zbyt wiele czasu, którego nie mamy.

ale to jedyna droga do faktycznej niepodległości i ochrony przed kolejną napaścią ze wschodu bądź zachodu.

... i na szczęście coraz więcej ludzi zaczyna to w Polsce rozumieć.