News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 27 [1077]


And here we agree. But he could be convinced to stop, and declare his victory in exchange for the land he will eventually take anyway. And we agree that the EU is pathetic to think they are going to have peace. The EU, and I love Europe, is still not much more than a bunch of tribes out for themselves, yet not wanting to go to war with its neighbors again. The battles now are not on the fields but in negotiating rooms. There is only a small faction of politicians that actually believes the EU is so great as the commission would like to say it is.

The only defense against Russia is to have a great offensive plan. Weapons and men to man them. And if russia gathers at a border like they did prior to the start of this war, then the EU armies should be there as well to defend if not make the first strike.

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@cms neuf
Going from 18% to 20% is still thousands of kilometers of territory. Thats simply indisputable. When Pokrovsk falls, and it is very heavily fortified, that will be the beginning of a collapse of the front line. This is just a numerical and logistical fact. Ukraine should be negotiating and getting on with the business of recovery. If the front lines collapse, why would Putin stop moving forward? There is no incentive for him to stop once the lines fall. And all that NATO equipment will want to be removed before Russia gets its hands on it. The emotional arguments to keep fighting do not change the reality of the situation on the ground.

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@cms neuf
Google AI is your friend;

Over the past 24 months (from December 2023 to December 2025), Russia has gained several thousand square kilometers of Ukrainian territory, but the net change in total occupied land has been marginal relative to the overall area of Ukraine.
As of early December 2025, Russia controls approximately 20% of Ukraine's territory, or roughly 45,510 square miles (117,875 sq km) in total (including Crimea and parts of the Donbas seized in 2014). In December 2023, Russia controlled about 17.5%-18% of Ukraine, or around 41,000 square miles (106,000 sq km).
The key trends over the last two years are:
Slow, steady Russian advances: Russian forces have made slow, incremental gains, primarily in the eastern Donetsk and Luhansk regions, through attritional warfare.
Net positive for Russia: Despite Ukraine's 2023 counteroffensive and an incursion into Russia's Kursk region in mid-2024, the net change over the full two-year period has been in Russia's favor.
Significant annual gains: In 2024, Russia gained over 4,000 square kilometers (about 1,544 sq miles) of territory. In 2025, as of early December, Russia has gained an estimated 4,562 square kilometers (about 1,761 sq miles), a slightly faster pace than the previous year.
Current situation: Russia continues offensive operations and is making small, consistent advances, particularly around the critical city of Pokrovsk in the Donetsk region.
Overall, Russia has captured a few thousand additional square miles over the past two years, increasing its total control from roughly 18% to 20% of Ukrainian territory.

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@Korvinus
No one has said that Ukraine has not fought bravely. I think everyone can agree on that. But the end is near. Just how the end plays out is the only thing in question.

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I said this would happen two years ago. It is obvious they are running out of men. Ukraine is now letting men 18 to 22 leave the country legally as well. Zero volunteers coming from that group and now they are leaving in droves. How does Ukraine repopulate? Nearly four years in and Ukraine women are marrying men in other countries, starting new lives. They arent going back.

When you have no men to pull a trigger, you can have all the weapons in the world and it will not help you. Z is still dealing with a government that is systemically corrupt and broken. There is no way possible this ends well for him unless he lives in the US under guard. Ukraine pushed this too far, and it should have been negotiated this past summer. Now Russia will break the front line, my guess is by spring. When that happens, why would they stop taking land?

News / Was Charlie Kirk popular in Poland? [601]

Anyone saying the American Dream is dead is a fvcking moron. If it was, why are so many illegals flocking to the US border? Why are their more millionaires created every day? People who chose to not work hard and not get educated deserve nothing more than what they have. Hotdog vendors live outside of Manhattan, and thats how it should be. BTW a childhood friend of mines father owned several carts in the 80s, 90s and 2000s. Made a ton of money and lives on the Island. Being smart with money is also a problem of the young people today.

Bottom line here in this discussion is that the values of Charlie Kirk were the values of the US, and what was built upon them is what made the US great. Why returning to those values is being fought by leftists makes no sense. Why Turning Point continues to grow and sell out all of its events is because real Americans want to return to those values. Charlie Kirk mattered and still matters today. His life made an impact on the country in a positive way. The only people who dont see it that way are far left morons.

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@amiga500
Do you honestly think that cheap labor is living in NYC? Most are taking the train into the city from NJ and other parts of NY. Cheap labor is not an issue in NYC. The issue is housing costs are simply out of reach for people who did not get educated, and/or who have not worked hard. Should a hotdog cart vendor be living in Manhattan? And that is one of the best low cost businesses in the country. You live where you can afford to live, not where you want to live.

@mafketis
If anyone without insurance is sick or injured and they show up at a hospital they will not be denied treatment. Health care and insurance are a scam brought out of the WW2 era. Insurance companies should be regulated by the government as should doctors fees, hosptial fees, and medicine costs. The US government allowed it to get out of control as the offering of health care benefits was a competitive measure for business to attract workers during and after WW2. My private health insurance in Poland is 10% of the cost of that in the US and I get better care.

Bottom line is the United States is not about handouts for everyone. It never has been. The problem is the younger people with useless educations think they should get something for free because they are unemployable, or cannot earn enough based on their own poor choices. That is the US. If more people worried about themselves and put in more effort, they wouldnt have the time to demostrate in the streets for issues that do not effect them. Young people in the US are weak, and frankly embarassing to watch. The world is a hard place, and its time to stop trying to make things soft for soft people. There is opportunity everywhere in the US if you look for it and make the sacrifices required to become successful. Imagine how sucessful young men could be if they learned a trade instead of getting a degree in gender equity studies. Imagine how successful young women could be if they got a degree in finance instead of teaching. Not that we dont need teachers, but all the teachers knew what the pay was like before they began teaching, and then they want to complain about it.

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@Lyzko
Fvck you and fvck the left. Stop highjacking the thread with your leftist bvllshit.

Affordable housing? How about you live where you can afford to live. Cant afford NYC? Fvcking move! Cant afford Chicago? Move. Just because you were born in one city does not mean you have a right to continue living there at other peoples epense. All these leaches on the left who want a free or discounted ride in life. How about get off your a$$ and start making real money and stop asking for mine?

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@mafketis
He is right about that in many cases unfortunately. Too many young people with useless college degree's that have no real world practical applications. The Indians, Chinese and others got great tech training and thats why H1B's are needed. That said, H1B's are abused and should be more limited. And Americans should get real world training and not lifestyle or social engagement degree's.

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@Lyzko
Take your leftist LGB garbage to the appropriate topic. What you accept does not require any one else to accept.

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@Lyzko
Ahhhh yes, a Karen who thinks they know it all, and are in charge of correcting things that are none of their business. Have a nice day Karen.

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@Lyzko
You mean like you and others constantly highjacking threads and taking them off topic?

Things like despite the best efforts of leftards on PF, Turning Point is signing up thousands of new members every day.

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@mafketis
A few democratic goernor wins does nothing to Trump or the federal government. dhs.gov/news/2025/09/23/new-milestone-over-2-million-illegal-aliens-out-united-states-less-250-days Facts not feelings. goldmansachs.com/insights/articles/what-is-the-us-economys-potential-growth-rate more facts not feelings. Yes, I misread your writing, should have had my glasses on. Appologies.

@Lyzko
Fvck all those democrats, and Zohran the moron will go down in flames. People in NYC who voted for him are going to love the Cuban lifestyle. The financial hole that this idiot will create cannot be filled. Trump will cut as much money from NYC as he can, and decay will set in quickly. Welcome back to Times Square 1980.

And still despite all the leftists here on PF, Turning Point continues to grow and get record crowds on college campus across the US. More young conservatives being created every day. JD Vance in 2028 and all the leftists will lose their minds.

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@mafketis
Only mass deportations are happening and the economy is rock solid. When NYC is a dumpster fire after this cockroach, JD Vance is guaranteed to win in 2028. Just as Charlie Kirk wanted it. Marco Rubio his VP. And if you knew anything at all other than the rocks making noises in your empty skull, Trump has never touched a drop of alcohol.

Stop highjacking the thread with your bvllshit.

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@Lyzko
Your take is a highjacking in most cases in order to express your opinions of non topic items.

And Turning Point continues to grow.

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@Lyzko
I pray you learn how to stay on topic, its annoying. Your take is neither intelligent or well written.

Once again, this is a Charlie Kirk discussion. And his message continues to resonate with young men and women around the world. Turning Point is growing faster than ever. People are once again seeing that common sense is the only sense that matters and feelings cannot silence facts.

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@cms neuf
I mean exactly what I said.

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@Lyzko
And you represent a Turning Point in retarded thinking. Kindly FO.

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@Lyzko
You are another PF idiot. We do not care about your opinions on the depression, social security, or your misguided idea that everyone in the world is responsibile for everyone else in the world. This is a Charlie Kirk topic, not another place for you to preach your thoughts on what the world needs. Now please take your new deal loving bvllshit and start another topic on it someplace else.

Now, again, back to the topic. Charlie Kirk and his Turning Point USA are growing very quickly. And the youth of the world is finally waking up to the fact that the left, and the feminists have been lying to them for decades. Complain about the right, and your complaints are falling on deaf ears. There is a real reason for this as well. The lefts ideas and policies have failed globally, and everyone can see it. Now how quickly can the UK and Europe begin deporting all the garbage that their leftard leaders allowed into the countries? How quickly can countries in Europe start aligning with Poland? More illegals are self deporting from the US every day. The same will happen in the UK when Farage gets into office, and when Macron gets tossed, France will be next. It may take a decade or more, but order will be restored.

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@Lyzko
And since when is Bloomberg producing statistics on jobs in Europe? Or are you now trying to say Bloomberg can produce statistics on illegals working illegally in the US? Fact, Amazon is using more temporary worker visas than anyone else. Those jobs, packing boxes. Again all you try to do is take this off topic. Why TF cant you simply stay on topic?

That facts are that Charlie Kirks memory is continuing to influence the yough of the world. Thankfully, his image, and what he stood for a exactly what the world needs today. No more of the freak show left twisting young minds. I know that a value based group of people scares the $hit out of the left, and thats why so many here fear the right. Turning Point continued to pack arenas on its tour. Churches are more full than they were in a very long time. A positive impact on the world, yet some here still want to be a$$holes.

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@Lyzko
You have no fvcking clue. Just interacting with you makes me feel stupid. Labor. Skilled labor is in high demand, not the bvllshit yard work type. You really have no clue.

@Novichok
No such thing as women with dicks, only cross dressing fagqots.

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Good stuff.

Why is it that some people want to take this Charlie Kirk topic off topic all the time? I think maybe they cant stand the fact that if you watch CK videos or learn about him, it forces you to look at yourself. Probably uncomfortable for wife beaters, fagqots and dykes.

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@Lyzko
Your take on economics is like Bozo the Clown writing the text books. You dont know $hit about money. The top five percent of tax payers pay sixty one percent of the texes. Get an education. No illegals in Poland and its the fastest growing economy in Europe and one of the fastest in the World.

Now back on track for the a$$ clowns. This is a Charlie Kirk topic. Maybe you should watch some of his videos to learn how he was compassionate even to those who would likely have cheered about his murder.

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@cms neuf
Charlie Kirk was completely against illegal migration. As are anyone with a brain.

@Lyzko
Prices through the roof? Are you retarded? Poland is doing just fine with no illegal migration. The US and UK were just fine before all the illegal migration, and so was Germany. Anyone supporting illegal migration has their heads in their a$$es.

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@cms neuf
Ban illegal migrants and you solve a whole host of problems globally. Thats actual fact based logic. But go ahead with your feelings.

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@Lyzko
On topic please.

Zohran could be the first right on left victim of violence. The division he is creating is so much greater than anything Charlie Kirk spoke about. When someone speaks openly about taxing more from white neighborhoods, thats a racist. Nothing like this ever came from CK.

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@cms neuf
While the movie was a hit, Manhattan was a dumpster fire. Harlem could not be walked at night. Brooklyn was very dangerous. Times Square was so bad even the police didnt want to work there. Police were dirty AF who did. Sad to say but it took Rudi Giuliani to fix much of NY. Before he became mayor he was destroying the crime of NYC.

Imagine if people in NY embraced the many positive thoughts Charlie Kirk expressed. Non violence, family values, the things that held the fabric of the country together before and after WW2. The things that feminists started diverting from in the 70's and 80's. When it became more profitable to have divorce, and child support instead of staying married. When the government began to subsidize single parent/mother homes. At the same time when crime rose because fathers were no longer in the house helping to raise children. But who wants those things.

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@Joker
Zohran will win unless the former Gov gets out of the race and allows Sliwa to go head to head. It will be the end of NYC as we know it. Welcome back to the 80's when the streets were not safe, and drugs were everywhere. The wealthy will leave and his plans to tax white people will lead to a shrinking tax base that cannot pay for the programs he would like to initiate. He is a fvcking clown who was born with a silver spoon and has never worked a day in his life.

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@amiga500
There more video as well. This really starts to smell if you start sniffing. There is no way that shot came from the front. And now reports of a fake gun being found in the area where the crowd was standing. Why would that be there? Where is the film from the camera directly behind Charlie? Where is the mic that was on his shirt that looks like an explosive device in a slowed down video? Why was he taken privately in an SUV to the hospital and no ambulance? Very suspicious.

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Not a big believe in this theory, but things do not add up. Having a lot of experience hunting from a tree stand 20 to 30 meters in the air and killing a lot of big game with a good hunting rifle, Never have I seen blood like that on a kill **** from that distance. The entry is definitely coming from Charlies right hand side. Not from the front like is being said.