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I wish I knew!

But things starting with killing mobs never ended well...believe you me!

News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 26 [353]


That becomes Putin's problem....the longer the "liberation" of Kiev is delayed the weaker he becomes in the eyes of his folks and (former) supporters. His own (former) comrades in his own circle getting "ideas"...it's the same old story!

News / European News and Poland Thread - part 4 [1037]

In our societies only legal....

The moment you do something illegal you give your adversaries the bonafide reason to take you out of the game! A clear win for them...

You going criminal and act like their killers you lose everything!

Off-Topic / Is Islam a threat to western society? [215]

...can't you be serious for once, it's not funny!

News / European News and Poland Thread - part 4 [1037]

...someone smarter would be better....not one who unifies the world against him and Germany again...

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Do we really have to get used to that?

The Christmas market time is coming....now only with lotsa bollards against amok drivers....

There has to be a way to undo that!

News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 26 [353]

....somehow I come to think that Ukraine only needs to hold on abit longer and we will see the end of Putin.

This useless, needless war...which was planned to be over in 6 weeks...proves to be such a drain on Russia, the longer it takes!

And since Putin is unable to win Trump over, the US and the West will keep on supporting Ukraine, maybe not in the offical big ways but just enough so that the Ukrainians can soldier on and keep on draining Russia.

At some time in a maybe not so far future we will maybe/possible/probably hear in the news about some accident in the Kremlin, with "our beloved leader" somehow not surving...with some till know Unknown taking over and offering talks to Washington and also Kiev....

To avoid that Putin needs the ukrainian case closed...successfully....and fast! And frankly, I can't see that....

PS: I can't help remembering back to the old tales of the Wehrmacht having such a tough time in the same fields....its in the people, they are doing it again!

News / European News and Poland Thread - part 4 [1037]


....did they promise you also all that diverse and colorful new world with all these so needed valuable and skilled additions?

*sigh*

And they wonder why we want our old life back....

News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 26 [353]


Could be....that whole gas business springs to mind....so much easy available energy makes all that mad scramble for developing renewables look abit funny, I guess.


...and maybe they are right! The West should come down from its self declared spot so far above any other...not all people are the same, don't share the same preferences!
Cultures and mentalities differ....we are not 1 to 1 interchangable.

News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 26 [353]


....and I wonder if that somehow is part of one another?

All that land...all this space....all these resources!

I can't help compare that with all these central european states....so many cramped into the same place, fighting endlessly for abit more space...barely any resources but its people...they had to groom what they had, to make the most out of it.

But Russia? They always had so much of everything....the need to develop should never have been as urgent as in central Europe, IMHO.

Could be also totally wrong here...

News / European News and Poland Thread - part 4 [1037]


Sure....but friendship, or at least a little sympathy, would help alot with aligning interests!

For Poland and Germany its still going a long, hard way....with Russia always in the shadow, waiting....its never going to be easy.

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The same old reason everywhere....fear to lose power!


Would be only logical, wouldn't it! Both patriotic, nationalist parties...putting the natives of their countries first.

Thing is, that's the old problem of patriotic, nationalist, "our people first" kind of parties....what works well inside, doesn't work well outside...such parties are bad at foreign friendships and diplomacy and all that stuff.

A german nationalist party won't be seen as the #1 friend by a polish nationalist party...that the leftists always do better, for them "internationalism" is part of their DNA!

News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 26 [353]

This Wagner Group again....remind me...didn't they got destroyed and their leader killed? How are they still active?

News / European News and Poland Thread - part 4 [1037]


....but then asking innocently why the righ extremists are winning everwhere....

News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1150]


....no, thats not! At least no longer...not with a majority! It's more the persistent reminder about how stupid and playable former german govs had been...Iron is not wrong here.

Between Schröder and Merkel, sympathy for Russia and pure economical and energetical interests had won over political skill and plain solidarity with our neighbours. Only to be played for fools by Putin. Nobody with a conscience wants to be reminded about such failures.

On the other hand...its not quite clear what to do with these terrorists should they truly be delivered to Germany...to german justice....I guess they could expect a lawful trial, but how should a punishmen for such a thing look like....do they deserve a punishment in the first place? Questions over questions!
So...Poland not delivering them to Germany is not the worst way out of this...

No...I wouldn't call that "frustration about blowing up the infrastructure"....its more about shame about what led to this situation! That Germany made itself dependent on a warmongering autocrat who had no qualms to invade a neighbour...its the whole disappointment about Putin and our own gullibility in trusting him...its more than just a pipeline...

Its a mess of feelings, hard to put into words (especially non-native english, so excuse me when I'm sometimes hard to understand, I try my best!:)

News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1150]


...just hunch!

News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1150]

....if they did they most probably wouldn't tell about it in after-war Poland!

I guess it would be the same with decent Palis....telling or showing that they helped Jews might be their death sentence....

News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1150]


Why? He tried his best to free them...and eventually he got them back home.

He isn't the sadistic kidnapper here...

News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1150]

Wow....just found on X:

....I'm not sure to be proud of it....

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News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1150]

....am I to late to this discussion?

But seriously Bobko....I as a German feel with my gov, it's a seldom stupid situation and I guess you won't hear much from us...it's just a to **** situation, we are at a loss for words...

*getting red, starting to sweat, twiddling thumbs, hoping for another more important topic soon*

PS: The only one with a clear and loud opinion is actually former Chancellor Schröder, now answering a fact-finding commitee regarding Nordstream 2, who tells everybody, if he wants to hear it or not, that he did everything right and wouldn't change a thing....

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Yeah....funnily nobody crys "Nie wieder ist jetzt" when these red idiots want another try at socialism....

News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1150]


...because it IS THEIR LAND! Has been even before the Arabs came...they have been ethnically cleansed before, they won't allow that again!


@Barney

Just saying....every try to justify Hamas today is a nod to the Nazis back then, they did nothing else...and making the Allies the bad guys!

That's why I keep bringing that comparison up...not for nothing have these Arabs been such fans of Hitler (and most Palis still are)!

Just think about that for a moment....look for better company, they are just not worth your support, and at best you are totally naive.

'night all *waves*

News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1150]


Not unprovoked, Barney!

Believe me, Hitler would had been just an unimportant footnote of history hadn't he been able to count on and grow huge on feelings of suffered injustice after WW1 and wishes for revenge, for getting back what was lost/taken away!
The same as Hamas does with the Palis today....and as with Germany back then...instead getting back what we lost, every lost war made us smaller, left us less land. The Palis better stop that now or they will lose also even more land, and never get anything back!

And its neither genocide nor colonialism.....neither get all Palis murdered for just being Palis nor does Israel want anything from them, just being left alone! They build huge fences for stopping Palis coming in....that has nothing to do with undertaking a genocide or wanting to colonialize anybody but anything with guarding their homes!

You should google these words for their true meaning, Barney!

News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1150]


I think not!

Its similiar....WWII did only end with the total destruction of the Nazis and their infrastructure....even the ethnic cleansing of german lands was necessary! Brutal, inhuman, cruel with lotsa innocent victims but with the hindsight of nearly a century peace, necessary!

The Palis stand before the same question...fighting and suffering and dying for lost lands, for a past that will never come back or do away with their terrorist overlords and accept the peace they get!

And Israel does its best to destroy the terrorist infrastructure, helping the peace-preferring civilians along....these situations are definitely comparable!

PS: Maybe a good start would be to avoid such bummer-words like "genocide" generally....all your argumentation gets devalued by using such words, its just plain wrong. For that to many Palis still exists and keep on living, totally unthreatened!

News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1150]


Where is the difference between russian soldiers sneaking over the border and murdering, kidnapping Ukrainian civilians, women and children and Hamas terrorists doing it within Israel?

Ukraine tries to defend itself, its people and its border....Israel does exactly the same....only so much more effective!

Is that the difference you mean? Jews being able to defend themselves and punish the murderers? Would you prefer them also helplessly looking on? Begging the uncaring world community for help? What would you have them doing instead what you could still support?

A "litmus"-test question from me....do you think the total destruction of Germany (aka Dresden) was necessary to end this war, to end the Nazis? Would that also fall under "genocide" and if not, why not?

News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1150]

Why does an Irish support islamist terror? Because its far away....yet....

You don't have many islamists between your borders actually, haven't you Barney? No attacks, no murders, no amok killing sprees?

Be glad about it....but don't be naive! For them you are no different to any other Westerner which needs to be converted or killed.....just stop and think for a minute what you are supporting so strongly!

News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1150]


....you surely mean democratic state!


Barney would hate to live under HAMAS rule...as a leftie he would not survive for long!

In Israel he would...the big difference...

News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1150]

.....yeah, have to go too...but will think about my words, in bed! :)

'night all *waves*

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News / Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25 [1150]


....IMHO that was different....the war against Bolshewism/Communism was no local war, it was european wide, even global!

Only because of that the SS found lotsa young men in every european country to fight for the good cause....The Waffen-SS was the first european army actually....the threat was felt everywhere....and Sovietrussia served as the bad, warning example....the majority wasn't happy and surely would have helped if they could have been sure the invaders came as liberators from Stalin and his ilk, not to kill and enslave them themselves!


*nods*

....nuff said!