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I don't " fixate" on it Jon. Pretending that men are women isn't part of my career or identity 😒 🙄 unlike some people.
I just don't think men have any place in women's sports..and I am not afraid to say so.
And don't start about my age. I know plenty of young people who agree with me. And you are older than me. Silly old man.

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Oh Jon Jon Jon...poor Jon. So very desperate. Laughable really . So anxious to have men beating up women made into an Olympic sport and so very anxious to be a woky blokey and to have " correct" thoughts. 😆 🤣

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Yes I saw that.

The worst thing is " pronouns " or some kind of forced speech where we are to join in with the pretence, even when the person in question is not there.

Sorry but I am not drawing attention to my sex on a work email, it's immaterial.

The funniest are the wokey blokeys who put ' he/him" like there was any doubt, or any possibility of discrimination.

Desperate to be progressive and can't see any problem that doesn't affect them.

To quote the late, great Magdelen Berns, be careful you are not so open minded that your brain falls out.

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Lenka no female sports star from.Algeria would put her private parts onto a male trainers neck.
That's a man.

No I don't have any problem with gay people or cross dressers.

I am just not pretending that a man is a woman or pretending that I can't see the difference.

Lenka good to ' see' you btw

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Anyone can see that's not a woman Jon.
It's hardly " racist " to point that out.
I am bored now.
It's obviously a man with a DSD. That is why he is on his trainers neck. Woman wouldn't sit there.

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Ah yes female athletes always do this ..

What " crikey" Jon?.you are spouting the buzz phrases like a good TRA. A bingo card wd be funny
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I am going to make a bingo card. 'Transphobia' ' boomer' 'racism' ' daily mail readers. Its all so predictable.
Have we had " bigot" yet? And you people don't even realise that even your vocabulary is being controlled.

Quote me where i insulted you. Oh no, you can't. You made that bit up. What a surprise.

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Ahhh " racism" of course!

Well I have met a fair few Algerian women and none of them looked like men.

I haven't insulted you at all have I?

In fact the only insults seem to have come from you. ....its a bit like the TRAs shouting " be kind" while issuing threats of death and violence to women who don't agree with them.

Are you not seeing a pattern emerging Jon?

Yes I am passionate about the issue. Why shouldn't I be?

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Jon I don't care if you don't like my writing style. It's a bit last resort isn't it? I have made valid points that made you think a bit maybe. That's why you are flailing about throwing insults.
Call the men arguing with you boomers or daily mail readers or whatever.
Oh wait....

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Oh we ran into Suzy Lizzard or whatever his name is on the tube not long ago. It was hilarious 😂.

Tell me Jon why shouldn't I state my opinion? You are not biatching at any men for saying what they think are you?

And I see you swerved my question. I bet it made you cross your legs though lol.

Why can't a man pretending to be woman use the mens loo? If he feels uncomfortable well then he should use the disabled loo. Not inflict his male self on women's spaces.

Apparently some even get a kick out of rootling about for used period products.

Why should women tolerate mentally ill perverts in our spaces? We aren't a support service for men.

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Yes Jon. Why shouldn't I state my opinion. You are blindly following the lies about Imane and are also pro trans. The issues are closely connected. Both seek to erase women .

Now you're a gay man aren't you? That's no secret.

Now imagine that as a teen you were told that you weren't a real man and should have your cock and balls removed and pretend to be a woman. What kind of life might you have had? How anti gay is that?

That's what you people are pushing for. Regressive hardly even covers it.

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No I don't agree with this sick cult.

Why do I need to " chill out"...? This is something I feel strongly about. If men want to get their jollies by pretending to be women and doing a bit of cos play, who cares, it's fine . Good grief my colleage was doing it in the pub last week. It was funny.

However if they want to police or change our language, threatening those who don't agree with them with violence , all the while bleating " be kind" and colonise women's spaces and sports they can eff off.

And frankly yes I do find the idea of men in women's spaces a bit worrying or scary.

I had to chase one out of a pub ladies loo just the other week. It's the cult has given them the idea that it's OK.

I think he was listening to women ....pissing and ******** and getting a thrill off it.

Weirdo. They're everywhere

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Of course they are! I am acquainted with a wide selection of gays and lesbians who are shocked and disturbed by this sick cult.

Most teens hate their bodies . The cult knows this and exploits them to turn them into life long cash cows.

The majority of young women now pretending to be men are autistic and /or survivors of child sex abuse. Instead of these issues being addressed, these sickos are recommending they be mutilated and put onto a lifetime of expensive drugs.
Hmmm.

And the wide eyed wokesters lapping up this regressive crap are either stupid or evil.

I like to think stupid. The idea that anybody could actually grasp these issues and support them is scary.

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Go on Jon, call him an aggressive ' uncool' boomer! Lol

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Thank you Maf. And this sick cult is driven by pharmaceutical companies and paedophiles. In whose interests would it be to have adults with the body and mind of a child? In whose interests is it to have people on a lifetime of drugs?

Allowing men into women's sports is just one angle of the cult.

. Although I wouldn't call Imane trans, just a man with a DSD and ( probably).some intellectual impairment.

Interestingly in Iran, there's the death penalty for gays. However state sponsored gender reassignment surgery is freely available.

What does that tell you about the movement? Mmm?

Imagine being a young gay woman and being told that you don't fit the strict stereotype of womanhood, therefore you are really a man, should have a double mastectomy , and the skin Nd muscle of your forearm debrided and fashioned into a fake penis which will be sewn to your vulva. And you will need drugs for the rest of your life.

Imagine being a young gay man , told that you are not really a manand should have your cock and balls removed, and you should pretend to be a woman and...guess what..take drugs for tge rest of your life.

It's so sick and regressive. And it's been sold as " progressive "and the wokesters have swallowed it

Anyone who thinks these people are OK check Geoffrey Marsh and Lily Contino and tell me they are not targeting children

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@Ironside
Many women don't seem.to see how important this is, I agree.

It's almost amusing to see the wokesters tripping over themselves to be so progressive, while they have no idea that they are supporting the most anti woman and anti gay movement in history.

That's actually off point but never mind.

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I know that Ironside. That's why in the vast majority of sports women have their own category

This is important and what the likes of Jon would like to stop.

Jon why are you telling me to " learn manners" you are the one being rude not me. Mate . I think psychologists call this " projection". Have a Google. Hth.

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And it's the same people supporting Imane that also support the erasure of women's sports categories.

The only sport where men and women compete as equals is three day eventing. You just need a heap of cash.

Go on Jon, tell the men that are disagreeing with you that they are aggressive, hate filled uncool boomers.

Oh wait. Lol

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Thanks BB at least some men see my point.

Rubbish male athlete? That's fine. Tell everyone you are a woman! You will be a champ!

What kind of men do this? Truly pathetic woman hating ones. Who supports it? Woman haters and those with internalised misogyny.

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Yes Jon it's about men in women's sports categories. However you went off on a tangent about. ....I don't know.. boomers and trans and stuff.
Which was weird.
Kind of off point really.

Ahh now you say I am being " aggressive ". How very very predictable .
Show me where I was " aggressive ". Oh wait, you can't.
Thanks for illustration though. Lol.

I am not spending any more time arguing with anyone who willingly supports this misogynistic crap.

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And if a woman speaks her opinion assertively she will get some woman hating progressive trying to suggest she is not " cool".
Plus ca change plus ca meme chose

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And you seem seriously confused about the generation names. No I am not a " boomer woman" thank you. I also know young women who feel the same as I do. It's a bloody liberty.

It's literally ..they already tried to stop women competing in sports and having our own spaces. They failed so are coming at it from a new, progressive angle.

And the male wokesters are falling over themselves to agree ......funny that.

Next Jon will be bleating at me to " be kind"

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No Jon I don't " hate" anyone I just think that women's spaces and sports don't need to be be invaded by men.

I am not the kind of woman who centres men in her feminism. I know that's difficult for some poor menz to get their heads round but do try. Bleating " hate" as soon as a woman speaks up in defence of women's spaces kind of shows you up as anti woman.

BTW Semanya fathered a child. Still bleating that he is a " woman"?

I would also get angry about " people who menstruate". There's a word for us and it's " woman".

There have always been people who don't fit the gender binary. However a gender non conforming man is not a woman. He is still a man.

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Also, he was actually investigated by the International Boxing Association and suspended from competing in their championships last year....after failing a gender test.
Guess the Olympics is different. Maybe run by more woman haters I don't know . There's a lot of it about these days

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Jon, he won't take a test because it would show that he is male. If there was to be any test, it would have been done by now, wouldn't it? As you mentioned he does look somewhat " cognitively challenged " . To me he looks inbred. That's probably why he has a DSD.
To paraphrase a great woman, " a layer of thick make up and heavy airbrushing doesn't make a woman".

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Imane Khalif is still a man though.

Ooh maybe he will sue me!!

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" there are certainly women with XY"

No Jon there really really aren't. You are now showing a really poor grasp of bio chemistry.

XY = man. Nobody with XY menstruates or gets pregnant.

It will be shown that he is a deformed man. A deformed man is not a woman. Sorry. Not even when they choose it. Still men, the lot of them.

He certainly looks a bit cognitively challenged now you mention it.

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Oh dont be silly Jon. You know I was talking about the male boxer from Algeria.

Having the menopause doesn't make any woman less than a woman. (Btw Your hatred is showing.)

((Oh ! You edited out the bit where you seemed to suggest that post menopausal women aren't actually women! I suppose it did show a poor grasp of bio chemistry. ))

Having XY chromosomes on the other hand, is a bit of a giveaway.

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* man

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I really don't think there will be any trial. First he would need evidence and the only evidence he has produced so far is a fuzzy image of a child wearing a pink dress.
Not going to cut it really in court is it?

I would question you knowing numerous women that look more manly than Khalif, yes. I know several butch lesbians but they are recognizably female. Unlike this one.

I wonder if it's normal for real female athletes from Algeria to spread their private parts over their trainers neck. I doubt it.