History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [385]


Hopefully not! American earth has been so much used and abused that levels of magnesium in the earth has reached an all time low! Providing lower amounts of magnesium in foods! Doing same thing with same methods is a real tragedy if it is happening in Ukraine!

Off-Topic / Nobel Prize and Oscars = Propaganda? [61]


I don't like Ron2, as he reminds me of somebody. So no comment from me on this.

@Paulina
Well as Alfred Nobel deemed Norwegians to have been more peaceful of the two nations (Swedes or Norwegians), it seen as a badge of honour to be able to give it out and can create international and domestic issues as the group that hands it out are independent of the govern of Norway (which certain countries can't get their head about and think it's a move from the Norwegian government when giving it to controversial figures like opposition in China). While a financial oriented government prefers trade and sale of fish through China.

Norwegian media is very leftist in general so mainstream media and even rightist parties would not be considered conservative (value wise).

It would be a faux pa to consider Trump a good president and say bad things about Obama. It's very one directional and people have to consent to be on board about it.

Wałęsa was seen as worker championing for workers against tyranny of politicians in 1980's of course he got a Nobel peace prize. Especially when solutions were of talks, negotiations and agreements rather then revolution, violence and war

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

@Bobko
So if another country then Russia had same goals as you listed. Committed atrocities on Russians in name of good. You would be fine with that? I wouldn't

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [540]


You got to think bigger, decent people prefer to talk, negotiate, being verbal and non-physical. That way, finding other decent people abroad is much easier if they think people are not as decent as themselves domestically (experiences are done mostly domestically).

Big "decent" corporations see hostility towards "foreign" migration and laws as first warning and barrier before their own company gets targeted (to be nationalised or out competed by nationalist policies. It's another reason why international companies try to have non-nationalist parties ruling in a state they invest in.

They don't want to lose money, same with regard to Germany. Viewed by any party! Germany as society, not only as a state has invested a lot in Poland (cause it's profitable and safe...)

Any threat to that investment will be important

Law / Gun control in Poland: should Polish people be allowed to own guns? [795]


Not the right angle to approach when debating an American.

Poland is fortunate enough to have a very coherent nation compared to many countries (A Pole will surely disagree, since division and differences are a natural thing in Poland. If in lack of it, it's created...)

However Poland's ruling "elites" throughout last 200 years know perfectly well that without people's support they are doomed to lose their comfortable seats. No matter how much or what kind of repression is done due to mainly having very strong and populated states in it's vicinity that wouldn't mind to use and create strife to install or control the country directly how they see fit.

And... the population knows this very well. Therefore the need for individual and personal security is a lot smaller then in America as from the south to the north the greatest and useally sole reason for limitation of freedom, economy or opportunities in life are the ones who are NOT threatened by neighbouring elites or heads of state.

Therefore they must be far more aware of what is going in behind closed doors and level of paranoia is far greater then in Europe.

Also who has access to weapons such as guns and not only white weapons (swords, knives etc for all the "colour sensitives") is far more detrimental in societies that have conflicts across cultural, racial or religious lines and not only on the mere thought of ideological differences in management and goals how things should be run around.

Not to mention the military industrial complex that are the result of gun ownership and gun production. Avid defenders of personal freedom and gun enthusiasts are proponents of arm deals and gun enterprises to be sold domestically just as internationally.

U.S.A reaps many forms of rewards from having a very large military. Any major power that wants to outcompete U.S.A internationally needs to ban guns first in America, otherwise there will be partisans with guns just as "The amount of straws in the fields". No serious state would comfortably invade mainland U.S.A due to gun ownership alone.

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


Cry me a river

My family and many others (Polish families!) lost properties, family and valueables. Forced from their ancestral lands where they lived for centuries.

Builders build, cryers cry.
I rather look to the future! See after what we can have by building instead of what was lost, that won't truly return.

When Mongols burned cities of wood, you build one of stone! :)

History / Why American military aid to Europe and Poland is important to America itself? [212]


Ask Russian media about it! They could then tell you about Poland's Imperial ambitions of taking over Ukraine, Belarus and Europe! Before taking over the world of course! Labour apples and discussions!

News / A Polish Feminist Found in a Forest [133]

Well it was funny to read, besides I personally got the impression she is a strong willed women if she doesn't mind being carried by a Police officer. Clearly an improvement from ZOMO during PRL. Proof of improvement.

Hopefully she doesn't have a nervous breakdown from idiots commenting the situation

Feedback / Who deserves to inherit Polish Forums? [339]

Great! Hopefully I can share some more next month

Feedback / Who deserves to inherit Polish Forums? [339]

PolAmKrakow came with the best idea so far, so I would vote for him.

I do hope this forum keeps on going tho!

*Dreads over the thought of Reddit*

History / Poland relations with Italy 1939-43? [4]

Many non-German Fascist/authoritarian regimes sympathised with Poland in 1939-1940

It allowed for transport of Gold reserves, Polish soldiers and Polish personnel. Most notably Hungary, Romania, Yugoslavia and Italy were positive despite trying to have neutral or cordial relations with Germany to avoid being invaded themselves.

Italian journalist tried to portray Polish cavalry as heroic soldiers willing to fall in battle against the monstrosity of the German machine. It was seen as very sacreficial, bold and heroic to the awe of many rightwingers in Europe. For sure some in U.S.A too since many Polish Americans decided to join Polish free forces before 1941 after a campaign showing Poland as a knight fighting the "German dragon"

One has to remember that the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact didn't sit well with many people, and left many even confused.

News / Because of Tusk and PO lefty politics our soldier died [7]

wiadomosci.onet.pl/bialystok/przelom-w-sprawie-zabojstwa-polskiego-zolnierza-sluzby-zidentyfikowaly-sprawce/h37jk1s

Seems like the soldier's killer has been identified by secret services. There is a worry he might escape to Syria before being captured

History / Warsaw Rising 1944 - National Disaster or Triumph of Spirit ? [515]


It ain't nice talking about yourself that much. One could think that you are a very selfish person

Besides, what you write can only describe you as a kanalia there there is no longer any purpose to debate anything with you

History / Warsaw Rising 1944 - National Disaster or Triumph of Spirit ? [515]


Preferably


Well that's Rich

History / Warsaw Rising 1944 - National Disaster or Triumph of Spirit ? [515]


Evacuate as many civilians as possible out of Warsaw, stealthily in small numbers at a time. But in many places, have heavily armed strike teams where possible to delay or eliminate any reaction from the local garrison that is assigned to each street.

After red army has crushed Nazi Germany, prepare for liberation of Poland from the red army and especially NKVD.

Is that a good enough answer for you?

Aaand you keep lying.

History / Warsaw Rising 1944 - National Disaster or Triumph of Spirit ? [515]

@Novichok
Thank goodness you are not a decision maker, and have no sway of anything important. You are still blaming the victim, Poles were not able to decide their fate much. Yet you seem to behave like Poland had a standing army in Poland a collaboration government with Germany, which is pure fiction.

Whatever Germany decided on those lands, there was very little that could been done.

When somebody comes you with an option of working to death or be killed, you can't be taken seriously if you say everyone should chose working to death. Because they have cookies!! You are not making any sense with your arguments and come off more naive then a child

History / Warsaw Rising 1944 - National Disaster or Triumph of Spirit ? [515]


Are you being serious? This on the level of: «Polish should had just surrendered in 1939 to the Germans and accept them as their overlords to let them do whatever they please» You are nuts!

Besides it was the Soviet Union who riled up to do a uprising via radio and Polish underground army attacked the Wehrmacht AND sides the red army on the frontline outside of Warsaw in various locations only to cheer with red army soldiers before AK soldiers being transferred to People's Army while officers shot or arrested at best by the NKVD.

It was the Soviet Union that stopped broadcasting about liberation and rising up against the Germans when the rising began. It was your «favorite country» that goaded the most to start the uprising...

Any more nonsense?

Not to mention that when Soviets talked about liberation of Poland it was within Marxist terms, of looting shops, killing shopowners and capitalists (big and small), aristocrats, beaurocrats and clergy to "liberate the opressed people"

Life / Clothes and Fashion Polish style - then, now whenever! [25]

Both clothes in middle seem mediocre at best and nothing of interest really. Would been secretly horried if a women in my circles bought AND wore them. On right and left seem to be proper lengte, but I am not a fan of dots on dresses and not sure what to say about the dresses armslength either, but passable. Nothing «Wow!» about them tho.

Solo picture further down however reminds of certain fashion during 1920's and looks almost shining without glitter. Clearly best

History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]

@Bratwurst Boy
With same tone and words I presume, I wouldn't be surprised if he just vents his frustrations.

History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]

@Bratwurst Boy
Probably all posters who: Who know German, likes to speak German or is Germanophilic or has any forms of big and small connections with German language, culture or German state.

Germany (Just as Austria and Russia) is symbolically understood as black crows due to their double headed eagles or Prussia's later Germany single headed black eagle. Hence why use of nest, with double connotation and mixed meaning of "den of thieves, nest of thieves" in English. This despite the stereotypical view of Poles as criminals, especially as car thieves in Germany.

One of the reasons Polish criminals feel free or even legitimate for such actions is the small or meagre measures of punishments caused by general view of Germans and Germany, which contrasts and sabotages financial sectors and productive sectors in Poland who try to have economical fair deals with Germany.

Why criminal elements or ordinary people feel like it's no biggie to do crime if reward is big enough and risk is low enough? Due to historical animosities that is not seen as settled.

There was a lot of art, treasures and valuables that were taken out of Poland at end of ww1, but also later on in greater scale during ww2. A lot of it ended up in U.S.A. But not all, this approach of trying to put it under the carpet does not work and me myself feel it when anything unfair happens towards Germans or Germany (but also Swedes and Sweden) I tend to think" Well they deserve it, asked for it by continuing to behave like that.

It's easier to steal from a thief, since you expect the thief to steal from you regardless.

KO tries to avoid conflict so they don't want to take up this taboo really. While it creates frustration and irritation for PiS and just wants it fixed and done with (but also win political support, duh they are a political party)

Hence use of word "nest" in my opinion

History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]

@pawian
+Moldavia, Latvia, Estonia and parts of Russia (Smolensk should ring a bell)

I would say it was more downsides then utsides to it from a historic point of view. It stopped Lithuanian pagans from raiding Poland. What we got in exchange however? Time will tell

Off-Topic / Serbia etc. thread 3 [436]

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News / Low Priced Ukraine Blueberries have exporters routing around Poland [17]

@Crow
Would you vote to embargo goods from Croatia just cause they prefer «Germanics?»

Would you not give or trade bread with your cousin if he roots for your football clubs rival?

Regardless of your answer, please answer me. Is your answer from a place of hate in your heart, or from a place of love for your slavic brothers?

Then you find the answer you need, but not the one you want to hear

History / Poland's January Uprisings of 1863 [86]


Also it was a question of legitimacy, if the Szlachta had not resisted. It would be proof of accepting Tsars position as head of state, not only as a reality on tve ground. Him having a larger army, but also the silent support of the Aristocracy. It can be compared to Catholic Church position in Bohemia while under Austrian rule. It was considered Austrian influenced and not Czech.

The antagonism and hostility between Szlachta, peasents, middle class, intelligentsia would have only increased and created a far larger split for the German Kaiser, Austrian Kaiser and Russian Tsar to use as they saw fit. It would have much larger breeding ground for communism later on too.

The failure of the uprising was also a hard lesson that was learned from, with a new pragmatic approach later on that bore fruit at the end of ww1 and knowledge learned being used during interwar period.

It's a part of a chain of events that was one of the worst and more painful to bare for those involved

History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]


I would have shipped you on a North Atlantic trade route 200 years ago simply for your choice on how you use your tongue. Even if I would agree with you politically.

Despicable

History / What makes you feel Polish? [167]

@pawian
Then there is no choice! If they won't be afraid of you, then they will laugh at you. Just as it was written! No other choice! Uprising it is! All to arms! Lord, peasant and worker alike!

History / Karol Wojtyla, the man who become a pope (video) [58]

@pawian
Then you weren't part of the combatant part of solidarity then! I simply expect responsibility regarding the safety and security of the are that the Polish states main responsibility is and should be the sole purpose of! You and your gang are dismantling the Polish state infront of everybody's eyes! Good job huh? "Great Catherine" would been VERY proud of you!

Po polsku / Wandalizacja Chrystusa - co robić? [35]

@pawian
To idź i skacz na migrantów! Samobójstwo też nie dozwolone!

History / Karol Wojtyla, the man who become a pope (video) [58]

@pawian
A shepherd is responsible for his sheep! I have a hard time imagining him advocating to not strike at wolves to protect his flock!

Unless one thinks of one's own soldiers as wolves! Admit it! You think badly of Polish soldiers and policemen cause of the 80's in Poland and their support of PiS! It's all just politics for you!

News / Referendum to decide about exotic immigrants in Poland [559]

@pawian
Just write it honestly. Me being dead guarding the border would grant you the second best satisfaction, since it wasn't Ironside!