Off-Topic / USA News and Poland - part 17 [549]


That's not true,
Starmer is trying to clear up the mess left after 14 years of right wing rule which is weird as he is perhaps the most right wing PM the Labour Party has ever had (Blair doesn't count as right wing, he is in the war criminal club). The omnishambles inherited by Labour in the UK was always going to be a poisoned chalice.

News / Was Charlie Kirk popular in Poland? [521]


Except in the USA where the regime is shamelessly using his murder to enact a wave of censorship...no open debates there.

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It shows that assassins are vermin.

Off-Topic / USA News and Poland - part 17 [549]

@PolAmKrakow
Just imagine what the US would be like with a parliament and not just the Mango Mussolini being allowed to act like a king.

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@PolAmKrakow
What you are witnessing is the Princess Di phenomenon but to a lesser degree. The guy was unknown in Europe and apart from being horrified by yet more gun crime his sad murder will have little impact. The murder will have implications in the US because it is being weaponised.

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@PolAmKrakow
No one is "minimising " this man. I am simply pointing out that he was largely unknown outside the US and possibly broader "influencer" circles until his murder.
His elevation to sainthood is a ridiculous, politically driven project. It's the equivalent of an appeal to authority.

News / Was Charlie Kirk popular in Poland? [521]

No Kirk was unknown in Poland and Europe.

It's distasteful that this internet influencer is being beatified as part of an onslaught against a rules based order. The guy recorded himself browbeating 18 year old kids editing the videos and posting the results just like those people selling weight loss products.

Off-Topic / MH17 10 years later - Russia Found Guilty [8]

@Lazarus
I am pointing out that the ECHR has history in making decisions that are politically inspired. They have set at least one very damaging precedent that is used to this day by others to ignore human rights. Of course you are free to make as many partisan decisions as you wish but courts should not have that freedom particularly one with human rights in its title.

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The European Court of Human Rights is a disgrace of an organisation. They directly paved the way for both the US and Israel to torture at will and with impunity.

The Regime in the US specifically mention the disgraceful decision reached by this "court" under political pressure from the UK regime to rebrand Torture as degrading and inhuman. The genocidal regime in Israel did the same.

Any authority international courts had has been destroyed by "the rules based order" ie NATO countries.

Off-Topic / USA News and Poland - part 16 [1071]


They can do whatever they want, even whinge about Russia's invasion of Ukraine while (with all their NATO Allies) taking part in genocide.

They dont give a fcuk

News / The Iran war and Poland [826]

@AntV
He did and he was correct, he wasn't stupid he knew what the project involved.

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With regard to colonialism Marx was correct, Herzl did describe Zionism as colonialism.

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Genocide:that's what they are doing. Listen to their government
colonists: that would be someone setting up on someone else's property/land
Apartheid: that would be having different rules, laws and courts for different people

It's not a left-right issue it's right vs wrong

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@Bobko
The never ending propaganda and founding myth of Israel has been central to how the European population viewed the area. In The US there is the additional prism of evangelical mythology. In 1967 Moshe Dayan would have been elected US president if circumstances allowed, today in the west the good will towards Israel has largely evaporated bar the ruling elites and people not really that interested. Beyond the west Israel is viewed negatively by the vast majority of the world not because the majority are Jewish but because of their behaviour. It's pure colonialism.

The old analogy is allowing someone to share a table with your family and they then force you to leave because their friends are coming.

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@mafketis
Palestine in the form of the PLO recognised Israel no talk of ethnic cleansing Israel didn't like that and set out to destroy the PLO which they have more or less succeeded in doing. They funded and supported HAMAS and ignored the Oslo agreements to undermine the PA. Now they are arming an Islamic state linked criminal gang. The historic recognition of Israel happened on the Palestinian side but Israel is lacking. The difference is that Israel is not interested because they are armed, funded and protected by the USA like a good puppet regime.
@AntV
A closer look would lead to an even bleaker picture than the one I described. I can't see any legitimate reason for state sponsored land theft or the denial of building permits. Israel has two cards, the security card and their ace,American backing. This means they can and do as they want because of western guilt/colonial attitudes and the massive corruption of the Arab world. Arab states that haven't been bought off have been destroyed. It's a lesson in raw power with zero morality, legality or any other sweet words the so called west like to use.


There is never an excuse for genocide.

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No one gains anything from never ending war. Palestinians could ask the IDF how to transition from a bunch of terrorists to the most moral army in the world.
@mafketis
A negotiated settlement that is one sided just continues the current cycle. Israel wants the land without the people. If they want peace they have to recognise and attempt to correct the wrongs done to the indigenous people they won't because Zionism is a colonial project, Palestinians don't count.

@AntV
What I describe is the reality. A cursory glance at the West Bank illustrates this perfectly. Something as basic as building permits or property rights is skewed massively in favour of the colonists. There is no conjecture just an accurate description. When you have two sets of laws for two sets of people in the same place alarm bells should be ringing. Both sets of laws are policed by the colonists. I have yet to see an instance that proves my description wrong. Apartheid is an accurate description of the situation that has nothing to do with left, right or centre or indeed antisemitism. It's not antisemitic to oppose land appropriation.

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@Bratwurst Boy
If it were a useful article it would include some insights other than repeating the propaganda that we already know.

Israel doesnt want to make peace it wants to dominate like all expansionist states. there is no possibility that refugees and their descendants can return to their homeland. These people were not compensated. Land theft is continuing as is the appropriation of Palestinian culture. The PLO recognised Israel decades ago yet Israel refuses to deal with Palestinians as an equal people. Now you have convicted terrorists in Israel's government who along with their so called "moderates" are calling for ethnic cleansing and destruction. The huge influx of former CCCP citizens is often blamed for this march to overt fascism but in fact that particular voter base is the colonised west bank populated by Americans.

I agree that self determination for Palestinians would be beneficial for them but Israel wont allow that. They prefer to run an apartheid system when not engaged in genocide.

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That piece is a regurgitation of Israeli propaganda. It doesnt offer any useful insights into anything.

The genocide continues...

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Exactly

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@cms neuf
Did you type that in your local bistro?

I don't get the hatred for Russian people from a bunch of genocide supporting centrists.

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I really like what the EU can become but today its totally useless at anything other than a trading body. Its economic policy and fiscal rules are all from the right, the trade off is that there are some mild regulations on working conditions. Unfortunately one doesnt go anywhere near enough to balance the other. But on balance I would stay in the EU.

I've said it before here but Europe needs to develop and expand its defence industries and stop subsidising foreign manufacturers. We have the industrial base and technological ability. Without Europe, specifically the Netherlands, Taiwan or any one else couldnt manufacture the highest spec chips until China catches up. Why is Poland not buying European instead of the American and Korean stuff? Is it historical or political?

News / The Iran war and Poland [826]


Dont want to rain on the parade...

Trump basically confirmed what everyone knows ie the Israelis attacked Iran with America's blessing. There is no way they would have done so without America's blessing. Trump has just proved that he could stop the genocide or at the very least end starvation tactics but choses not to. Not surprising given that Israel allows America to pretend to be one place removed from genocide and war crimes (not that they care about such things). The EU is even more pathetic in its resp[onse to the whole mess spitting out weasel words and Starmer in the UK thought that starvation was a legitimate tactic.

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Didn't stop him bombing Ukraine

Off-Topic / USA News and Poland - part 16 [1071]

@Tlum
Trump is appealing to his base. Famously a few of these guys were out protesting about Obama care and when questioned admitted they took advantage of the Affordable Care Act. They are not the fizziest bottles in the fridge. There are people here who dont understand that tariffs are taxes

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@Bobko
He also said that where there are Russian boots that is Russia. If America invades which is more likely now, Russian intelligence will play a major part for Iran just as it did during American sponsored and failed coup in Turkey. The chances of American invasion were small as their second option is fighting their wars in other peoples countries. Their first option is always to find mercenaries to do their fighting.

@Antv
Putin has advisors despite the optics of publically dressing down the security chief

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@AntV
Trump doesn't have advisors. The signal he has sent is without a bomb you are a target.

Off-Topic / USA News and Poland - part 16 [1071]

@Bobko
It's a bit like the Pizza watch guys at the White House, very knowledgeable after the fact. I would tend to believe the reported Iranian guy cos it sounds like a Trumpian plan to defuse a situation he is about to further escalate ie the man and his cult are delusional

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He has advisers not courtiers. The message is get yourself a bomb and get it quick. Can't wait for a Latin American bomb.

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The world and his wife knew America was going to declare war on Iran with a an illegal attack after letting their puppet regime off the leash. It's what America does and has been doing for 200 years but who knows where this ends. There is something perverse about a society driven by the need to accumulate wealth with no underlying philosophy or morals. Somewhere that exists simply to exploit the domestic and terrorise the foreign to further enrich sociopathic billionaires.

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@Bratwurst Boy
They probably will have thanks to Trump blowing up the previous agreement