History / Historical look at various civilisational differences between Russia and the West [159]


Yes, but it wasn't proper tea. You know: proper tea - proper-ty. Soviet Union - communists - property? No? *sighs*

Geez, Paulina, sorry but I just imagined you on a date with some poor guy who is trying to make you laugh with a joke...

Paulina's date: Q: What do you call a world renowned linguist? A: A figure of speech. ha ha

Paulina: *without the slightest sign of a smile* What are you saying? A person cannot be a figure of speech, a person is a biological organism.

History / Historical look at various civilisational differences between Russia and the West [159]


I'm only dealing in peace, love and understanding.

youtu.be/k_pLnSxV5Ko

Now...

History / Historical look at various civilisational differences between Russia and the West [159]

A little medicine for hatred, guys...





... you can argue with some of the things said, if you wish, but you must admit that there is no hostility or hatred there. How sadly different it is from all the "Mongol, SS, orcs" nonsense spouted on PF.

History / Historical look at various civilisational differences between Russia and the West [159]


Have you seen HiT (Historia i Teraźniejszość) textbooks? Apparently fruitcakes writing history books for public schools is not exclusively Russian specialty. :)

History / Historical look at various civilisational differences between Russia and the West [159]


I really don't like the spelling. I'm not going to argue about it incessantly but it is a bit infantile and unnecessary.

As for the risk to civilisation, yes - under the current government Russia entered too hastily into a conflict that definitely has potential to cause much damage to the world.

History / Historical look at various civilisational differences between Russia and the West [159]


I sure do.

Russians have great sense of humour, they are friendly and loyal, and when you get to know them better they will treat you like a family member. As people in general, they are honest, kind, patient and long-suffering. Great material for friends, not so great for enemies.

I've been to Russia, I have Russian friends, I love Russian music, language and literature - how likely do you think it is that some random fruitcake (every country has them) on an internet board is going to influence my opinion? Not very likely, right? :)


There are Holocaust deniers, so I suppose there are also Katyń-deniers, Moon landing deniers and all other kinds of fruitcakes.

Life / Bank loan for UK nationals [9]


Yes, and it's absolutely ridiculous.

The best rating would be a result of having multiple loans and paying them off on schedule, using credit cards regularly and having a generous overdraft limit. Then, thanks to your high credit rating, you can get another loan (with interest, provision, insurance etc.) and increase your cc and overdraft limits.

In other words, people are being rewarded with higher rating for being financial retards. :)

Of course, there are also people who fall behind with their installments, keep carrying the balance on cc making only minimum payments, and keep using their overdraft limits. Such cases are beyond retardation, but that's the trap so many fall into.

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I don't have sources but I know PSL people, so-called "terrain structures". A lot of "old-timers" there and generally the part of PSL that wanted the deal with Agrounia is mostly pro-Russian. Of course, with the current official policies not many people will admit that in public.


Naaah... I wouldn't count on that. The EU offers too much koryto, as Paulina put it, to give it up so easily.

Life / Bank loan for UK nationals [9]


The problem is that if the guy never took any loan in Poland, doesn't have a credit card or overdraft limit, then the BIK report will just say that they cannot establish his wskaźnik. The BIK rating, however, is not neccessary to obtain a loan.

My wife and I paid off our mortgage more than 5 years ago (BIK is only interested in loans newer than 60 months), we don't use credit cards (only debit ones) and we don't have overdraft limit (Dave Ramsey style lol). BIK says they cannot establish our credit rating (I checked after the last loan was paid off). Of course, banks see our income and they keep offering us loans but we keep telling them "no, thank you". That's why this thread is surprising to me. I never knew it's so difficult to get a loan if you're a foreigner, even with regular income. I bet it's different with EU-nationals, so that's probably another thing that Brexit messed up for UK citizens. :-/

News / Polish Parliamentary Elections 2023 [933]


Why would they? They would immediately lose half of their hardcore voters. It's better for them to wait for PiS's failure to form a government or the failure of minority government and then inevitably gain even more votes in the snap elections.


Not only Konfa but also Agrounia, a large chunk of PSL (remember all the drama with Małgorzata Zych?) and several smaller parties, monarchists, "Myśl Polska" circles, Rodacy Kamraci etc.

Also, you would be surprised how much old sympathy for Russia is left in Lewica (especially SLD and UP). Really, Poland is not such a Ukraine-supporting monolith as some people try to picture it and as PiS is trying to convince us.

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They won't form a coalition with them, and PiS won't have enough seats to rule on their own.


No. They just don't want Poland to be a vassal state of Ukraine.

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Konfa doesn't. They prefer Russians. That's why they will pi*s on PiS. Simple.

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You mean the butthurt part? There will be a lot.

Konfa is going to pi*s on PiS and that will be the end of Kaczyński, Sasin, Czarnek, Krycha and the rest of this sad circus.

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38% exactly

politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/poland/

Travel / Kielce and the area - amazing Polish Pocket Knives live there [105]


He's running from Kielce, right?

*grabs popcorn*

News / The Political Circus of Poland [309]


"Gdyby żył" :D

Someone should tell Father Rydzyk that Krycha thinks God is dead. That would be the end of her political career. :)

History / Historical look at various civilisational differences between Russia and the West [159]


You only asked about their political attitudes, whether they were liberal or putinist. I suppose most of them were somewhere in between - people are complicated and in most cases politics doesn't define their identity as human beings.

Also, there is a huge difference between how people talk and interact in the real life compared to internet boards. Internet tends to bring out the worst in people, and one has to be aware of it not to fall into this trap himself.


I know the guy. He's OK but a bit naive. I remember his video about being shocked and awed with Poland's military parade. The parade was impressive but Russians know exactly what we have and what we don't have, as well as our current strengths and weaknesses, so judging a country by its military parade is a bit... well, naive. I like the guy though. As for watching the video - I really can't watch all the videos posted here. I don't have that much life left. ;)

But sure, it would be nice to have a joint Russian-Polish commission to write history textbooks for schools. Maybe one day.

History / Historical look at various civilisational differences between Russia and the West [159]


*sighs*

Believe what you want. Do what you want. You're an adult person.


I will.

History / Historical look at various civilisational differences between Russia and the West [159]


From your list, I recall talking about literature a lot. Music and cuisine, not so much.

Apart from that I discussed sport (mainly football), history, politics, women, cars, religion and tens of other topics that people talk about. There is not much difference in real life when it comes to social interaction that I had with Russians, Germans, the Irish, Scots, Italians or Americans.

Well, if I really had to find some characteristic points: Italians had great sense of humour, Scots were cheeky jokers too, Germans were incredibly civil (and incredibly beautiful, because - strangely enough - it was only German ladies that I met), Russians treated me almost like a member of their family, Americans were very direct but also very civil, and the Irish are by far the best drinkers of all the mentioned groups.

People are people, Paulina. I am way too old and I traveled way too much to fall for all this "orc", "SS", untermenschen nonsense. Sorry.


The truth doesn't. The way certain events are interpreted and presented depends very much on those relations.

In 2009 we had brilliant relations with Germany and Putin condemning Ribbentrop-Molotov pact in Westerplatte. Can you imagine this today?

History / Historical look at various civilisational differences between Russia and the West [159]


I don't know about "putinist Russians" but Vladimir Putin himself talked about the "immoral character" of Ribbentrop Molotov pact...

dzieje.pl/aktualnosci/przemowienie-premiera-putina-na-obchodach-70-rocznicy-wybuchu-ii-wojny-swiatowej

... and he condemned the pact, reminding of something that people often forget: that this pact was condemned also by Soviet Congress of People's Deputies.

www2.polskieradio.pl/eo/print.aspx?iid=114967

That was during Donald Tusk's term in power though, when Poland knew how to conduct foreign policies.

We can be assertive towards Russia, we can be stubborn when need be, but we cannot be unfair, Paulina. We cannot be unfair.

News / Does Poland support the idea of Slavic unity? [142]


... looks like. :-/

OK guys, I will let you have your little Prussia Fan Club thingy, but on two conditions: no Wagner music and no invading Poland.

News / Does Poland support the idea of Slavic unity? [142]


What kind of Slavophobia is that, Atch? And that coming from an Irish woman. Wait a moment... I have to take out the knife that you just put in my back.

*reaches back*

I won't forget that, Atch, and I will have my revenge one day.

News / Does Poland support the idea of Slavic unity? [142]


Yip. The badassness factor (1) is still there, the resistance to woke nonsense (2) is still there, and the ability to endure hardship if need be (3) is still there.

China and India both have only 2 and 3.
USA has only 1 and 3.
Most of the EU has sadly none (well... maybe a little bit of 1).


Sad isn't it? By the way - how many children do you have, Bobi? Well, get your finger out! (in both metaphorical and literal sense)

History / Historical look at various civilisational differences between Russia and the West [159]


You are a monolith in the sense that all three of you love Poland. The difference is that you realise and admit it, Veli realises it but doesn't admit it, and Kostya lives in denial about it. :)

News / Does Poland support the idea of Slavic unity? [142]

By the way, there is a party called Slavic Union (Związek Słowiański) in Poland...

zs.org.pl/

... and they are among of 41 parties, 43 electoral comittees and 2 coalitions registered for the coming parliamentary elections.

tvn24.pl/wybory-parlamentarne-2023/wybory-parlamentarne-2023-panstwowa-komisja-wyborcza-podala-ile-zarejestrowala-komitetow-wyborczych-7319357

Their motto is: "aby Naród Polski nie stracił słowiańskiej tożsamości" ("so that Polish Nation doesn't lose their Slavic identity"). :)

News / Does Poland support the idea of Slavic unity? [142]


Well, most Poles didn't have much problem with Warsaw Pact.

But the point is that it wouldn't have to necessarily be under Russian domination. Especially that it wouldn't be a military alliance but more of an international cultural/historical cooperation organisation (maybe to some extent political too, like V4).

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NATO is an alliance under American domination, the EU is a political entity under German domination etc. etc. In every union of countries there are always stronger and weaker ones, but it doesn't mean the members of such union cannot be treated fairly.

History / Historical look at various civilisational differences between Russia and the West [159]


How many people did Russians kill "in Union with the Nazis" (why the capital letter in Union)? Give me a rough number, and then compare it to the number of Russians slaughtered by the nazis.

It's like saying that Poland lost 6 million citizens in WW2 but first acted "in Union with the Nazis" by invading Czechoslovakia. It may be accurate to some extent but also misleading and distorting the general picture of events.

On 1st September 2009 in Westerplatte there were both Vladimir Putin and Angela Merkel present...

... and it was generally acknowledged, even by Russians, that Ribbentrop-Molotov pact was a mistake and that Poland was a victim. These days it is no longer widely accepted narrative in Russia, and Poland is depicted as a country that contributed to the outbreak of WW2 and our cooperation with Nazi Germany in the partition of Czechoslovakia is stressed.

If you look at foreign and historical policies back then, and compare it to the hate-fest towards both Germany and Russia that PiS is having today, then you can only marvel at the idiocy and deplore how much was destroyed in such a short time.

Not to mention that leading both anti-German and anti-Russian politics at the same time never ended well for Poland.

News / Does Poland support the idea of Slavic unity? [142]

23% is a lot. Still, majority are Slavic.

News / Does Poland support the idea of Slavic unity? [142]


77% of Russian Federation citizens are ethnic Russians...

study.com/academy/lesson/russian-ethnic-groups.html

... so they are definitely mainly Slavs.