History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]


This is some Colombo or Poirot level of deduction. Yes - you are correct!

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Virgin Mary, what did I just read?

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]


Me and Kania have been waiting all morning to witness your acrobatics. Please don't keep us waiting much longer.

Also, bring Paulina if you can.

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

Pawian has no appetite to defend SS Galichina it seems - good!

If you read the posts in this thread from 2013, you can see that Pawian was still a mentally healthy person. Maybe there is hope for him.

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Thanks. I hate audio books, so I will read the PDF instead.


How do you come up with this sh*t? Do you pull it out of your a*s?

According to the Wikipedia article "Soviet Repressions of Polish Citizens (1939-1946)", 150,000 Poles died from all reasons combined.

150,000 is not a small number by any means, but it's in a different galaxy from 6 million.

Source:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_repressions_of_Polish_citizens_(1939%E2%80%931946)#:~:text=An%20estimated%20150%2C000%20Polish%20citizens%20were%20killed%20by%20Soviet%20repressions.

I think the reason for your confusion is the transfer of territories to the Belarusian and Ukrainian SSRs. 13 million people lived on the territories that were transferred, before 1939. A great many of them were Belarusians, Rusyns, Ukrainians, and Lithuanians.

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Special for you, from the Wiki article "Holocaust Victims".

Mind you, this is only the people killed in camps or in so called "special operations". It's not even close to the number who perished in occupied territory in "non exterminative" circumstances, but simply through starvation, or other means.

Basically, during some weeks, Germany would kill more Poles in a routine and boring fashion, than in Katyn.

Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims

70.auschwitz.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=89&Itemid=173&lang=en

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History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

Photo 1 - Zelensky, a Jew, at the grave of his grandfather Simeon Ivanovich Zelensky. He was a commander of a rifle company of the 174th regiment of the 57th Guards Rifle Division. A decorated soldier, that saw 4 years of combat during the Great Patriotic War.

His grandfather is spinning in his grave knowing that his grandson spits on the memory of millions of Ukrainian veterans who died fighting the scum for whose funerals Zelensky provides the Presidential Regiment.

Photo 2 - a screenshot of a veteran of the Worker and Peasant Red Army being interviewed about the SS Galichina parade. He has tears in his eyes, while he explains how he cannot understand why this scum is being allowed to march around unpunished.

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The Galicians are fast runners.

When they were deployed to their first combat at the Battle of Brody, the division disintegrated within the first week of fighting against Marshal Ivan Konev's 1st Ukrainian Front.

Well, not the first week, but rather within about two days. They engaged in the favorite Ukrainian activity of getting encircled in a pocket. Out of a nominal strength of 11,000 men, only 3,000 escaped encirclement and promptly ran West. The other 8,000 were f*cked with broomsticks and then sent to meet their maker.

From Wikipedia: "By the end of that day, in the face of overwhelming Soviet attacks, the 14th Galician Division as a whole disintegrated."

That's July 20th, 1944. Their first heavy contact was on July 18th. What a mighty division!

As it turned out, fighting the Red Army was not as fun as marching around in parades or engaging in rear anti partisan work.

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History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

2021. Ukraine's Presidential Regiment is used at a funeral of an SS Galichina veteran.

The Presidential Regiment! Full name: 1st SS Presidential Regiment Leibstandarte SS Adolf Zelensky!

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This is no Pol-Shorpy, unfortunately, but... enjoy Pawian:

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They wear SS uniforms, who gives a sh*t about photos?

While they deny Poland exhumations of victims, these apes reburied SS Galichina soldiers in a pompous ceremony with military honors back in 2013.

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Most of the assh0les in Wolyn and Galichina don't bother calling it the 1st Ukrainian Division of the Sich Riflemen of Halychyna. This is more for public officials and schizophrenic Eastern Ukrainians.

The Wolynians and Galicians call things by their proper name.

Photos from last year's march.

Photo 1 - retards carrying a banner with the division's proper name.

Photo 2 - An absolutely marvelous banner that reads: "Our religion is nationalism. Our prophet is Bandera."

Photo 3 - chilling under Lvov's statue to Stepan Bandera.

Photo 4 - a banner that reads "The flame of glory will not be extinguished".

Hey Pawian, did you know there is an annual march in numerous cities and towns commemorating the foundation of the 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS? How about that?

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It's ok... next time I will take a shower and be clean of sh*t, while my Ukrainian brothers will be always covered with sh*t.

Plant sh*t seeds, grow sh*t weeds.

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

I'm going to continue throwing sh*t onto the propeller of Polish-Ukrainian relations, because it seems this is the fastest way to explain to certain Poles (like Pawian and Paulina) what kind of a story they have got themselves into.

After Kuleba's statements, and the Polish reaction, there is a growing hysteria in Ukrainian media and social networks. Through this, you can see that whatever Kuleba said - it represents the opinion of a very sizable part of the population of the Ukraine (at least those living in the West of the country).

As usual, I'll give you some links to articles so you can go and read the comments for yourself - and not accuse me of being a cherry picking orc.

Gonna give you two flavors, first from a liberal paper, and then from a nationalist website (which happens to be the most read news portal in Ukraine).

Source: eurointegration.com.ua/news/2024/08/30/7193135/

Source: censor.net/ru/news/3507556/tusk_pro_vregulyuvannya_istorychnyh_pytan_mij_ukrayinoyu_i_polscheyu_dlya_chlenstva_v_yes/sortby/tree/order/desc/page/1#comments

For Kania, who can't seem to open comments, I'll provide a screenshot below of the top 3 comments on Censor.

Translated:

#1 "The problems were such - you were killing us, and we were killing you too"

#2 "Perhaps for Ukraine to be admitted to the EU, Poland has to admit its crimes?"

#3 "Well, well, we are waiting for compensation for the pacification of Pilsudski, for the age-old oppression of our church, our language, for the suppression of our popular uprisings, and the list goes on."

As a special bonus, the fifth most liked comment - with 26 likes:

#5 "What questions??? Bandera, Shukhevych, Melnyk and hundreds of thousands more soldiers of the OUN UPA, the 1st Ukrainian Division of the Sich Riflemen of Halychyna, the Roland and Nachtigall battalions - are Heroes of Ukraine, fighters for its freedom and independence against the red-assed, Katsapo-Soviet, Communist-Nazi occupation sh*t and other biological waste!!!"

I presume Poles fall under "other biological waste".

While Ukraine seems to have convinced your government of its eternal mantra of "leave history to the historians", they are in fact using it as cover for the rebuilding of their revisionist narrative of what had happened.

Thank you Poles, that is all. Enjoy sleeping in one bed with these turds.

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News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [540]


Yes - the anti-ambassador! Probably the most unique ambassador in the world, who dedicates all his energy to insulting his host country.

His problem now, however, is that the Brazilians have no patience for his bullsh*t. He's such a turd, that he explains this out loud, and compares them at the same time to spineless Germans.

Truly an incredible ambassador! A faithful representative of his nation.

Quote:

- You are a supporter of rather non-standard diplomatic solutions. Being the ambassador to Germany, you used your Twitter as a tool to influence your German colleagues. Does this social network help you during your diplomatic mission in Brazil?

- Everything you write on Twitter is immediately read and reported personally to the minister. I know this because Brazilians tell me about it directly, they react very painfully to these posts.

Brazil is a country where society lives in social networks, perhaps even more than in Ukraine. Therefore, they understand the power of social media, as well as the unintended consequences of being out of control. They are really afraid that if they lose control of the mainstream in public opinion, then the situation could get out of control.

Germans are quite delicate people and at certain stages they were not able to outline "red lines", on the other hand, in Brazil, they do it, believe me, very harshly and brutally. Straight to the face, even with threats. That is, what I feel in Brazil and what I go through here is not child's play.

In Brazil, I am forced to act more gently and restrained than I did in Germany.

They say, "We don't like what you're doing on Twitter. You shouldn't be doing it." This is said at the level of the leadership of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. You can ignore it, but they tell you directly: "Well, you understand what will happen to you later." Therefore, we are working, but the methods, let's say, are a little different than in Germany. And it's hard.

It's "hard", he says. Brazilians don't like being insulted and extorted - how strange!

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@Bratwurst Boy

Back on topic - I have read an interesting interview with the former Ukrainian ambassador to Germany, Andrey Melnik.

I don't know if you remember him, but he was quite good at generating constant scandal. He finally was recalled after he called Scholz a liver sausage, and told Poles to stop moaning about Bandera.

After Germany he was sent as ambassador to Brazil.

Most of the interview is him complaining about how Brazilians don't give a sh*t about Ukraine, but he does also discuss Germany.

He said that his replacement has "ruined all the progress that he achieved through blood, sweat and tears". This was funny, and quite satisfying to read.

But the important part - he said that while the governing coalition will continue to do everything to ignore the unpleasant Nord Stream situation, the German people themselves will behave differently.

Here, I will quote him:

I am afraid that this may affect not so much the level of the government, but the level of public sentiment. I feel it.

First, a large part of German society advocates a complete freeze of any aid to Ukraine, an end to the war, and forcing us to negotiate. And here you can also say: "Oh, so the Ukrainians destroyed our critical infrastructure, and we are helping them." So far, it seems to me, the government is deliberately avoiding this topic so as not to enter into these discussions.

Source: pravda.com.ua/articles/2024/08/30/7472580/

It's a funny interview with this moron. If you want to have a laugh you should read it with Google Translate.

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Until the first F-35s arrive in 2026, Poland will not be able to give Ukraine its primitive and dirty orc fighter jets. It's 2024 outside, and Poland is still clinging to its Soviet rust buckets.

How shameful!

What's worse, is that the Polish official said that Ukraine must be made to understand that Poland has already given all it had to give.

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News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [540]

I think there was something there called Prussia?

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Eastern Germany was different long before the formation of the Eastern Bloc.


Of course I liked you, but just as you say your government is weak now - so it seemed weak to me to avoid discussion of Nord Stream.

Otherwise of course, we are kameraden.

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This reminds me of a joke:

A Polish taxi driver looks at his German passenger through the rear view mirror. The German seems upset about something.

- I'm sorry, sir, is everything alright?

- Yes, can you please stop bringing up the war?

- The war? I didn't bring it up, it was you who started.

- No I did not! It was you who brought it up, and you continue to talk about it.

- Goddamit, I did not start it, it was you who invaded first!


Finally you are not discussing Greeks or Martians, and are beginning to address the issue at hand. I like this BB much more!


Pawian is not exactly a good ambassador of Poland...

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These are the two key things.

In Indonesia, an autocrat backed by the military actually massacred half a million Communist sympathizers. This was done in the space of a few weeks.

In South Vietnam, a dictatorial regime composed of military men killed hundreds of thousands more in extrajudicial killings.

The reason Communist states around the world were so brutal, could very well be because the main exporter of Communism was Russia. In Russia, it took on a severe bent because it was shaped in a context of civil war and famine, and where most of the men in charge had spent a long time either in prison or in the military.

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@GefreiterKania

Basically, smart people are dangerous.

It's why one of the first things Mao and Pol Pot did was kill the remaining smart people.

So you should be happy with people like Duda, for example. The amount of damage they can do is limited.

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Exceedingly few outside of Western Europe and North America managed it without an autocratic hand.

South Korea did it under their military dictators. Japan under the Emperor. Taiwan under the Kuomintang. Singapore under the Lee family. Chile under Pinochet. And so on, and so forth.

The non-Western "stable democracies" like India did not do so well.

To get the peasants to leave their lands, and herd them into suffocating factories... a lot is required.


Also we must be saved from sons of rich men that travel abroad to study, and then come back home with all sorts of strange ideas. That's one thing in common between folks like Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Fidel Castro, Lenin, Zhou Enlai and so on.

Rich kids, studying abroad, and coming back and staging experiments on the population.

Off-Topic / I am a polish communist. [83]

Ivan the Terrible killed untold numbers of innocents to consolidate power over other Russian princes, in the process giving Russia much of its modern territory.

Then, Peter the Great used savage methods to drag the nobility and the people closer towards Europe. They kicked and they screamed, and thought Peter was the Antichrist - but it was probably what Russia needed.

Stalin raped the country, but in twenty years transformed it from a backwards agrarian country into an industrial superpower.

Mao broke China, but reforged it into the powerhouse it is today.

What I'm trying to say is... perhaps this has less to do with Communism, and more with totalitarians on a mission that has no space for consideration of humans.

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@GefreiterKania

It would be the AI sending you to the gulag, or maybe using your body to generate electricity in large "farms".

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What is there to discuss, if you haven't said anything remotely interesting?

As is - you seem to be a simple idiot, or a rather weak troll.

What might be an interesting topic, for example... is do modern technological breakthroughs make a centrally planned economy a more feasible goal than in the past?

In the Soviet Union, there was an entire field dedicated to the study of applications of cybernetics in economics.

At the time, it seemed too far fetched to ever be feasible. A fire at a ball bearing plant in Siberia, could create a "Butterfly Effect" type cascade of consequences, that no model could account for - rendering many aspects of planning useless or even harmful.

However, artificial general intelligence, could potentially plan in a way that the Soviet GosPlan could never dream of.

Perhaps Communism's time came too soon, and it will only really take off in the 22nd or 23rd century.

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It's the same in America, so you are in good company :)

Amtrak just might be in worse shape than Deutsche Bahn.

Several times in recent years, my trains were simply canceled. Not delayed, but cancelled. Not because some ship crashed into a bridge in Baltimore, but due to "signal issues", "debris on tracks", "maintenance", etc.

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Who cares about the Greeks?!

Zelensky blew up a pipeline Germany invested tens of billions into, and thrust you into the embrace of American oil companies. This is a big reason why your economy stinks now.

But you want to talk about Greeks?

Stop sending weapons and money to Ukraine, and invest that into making life better for Germans.

You know how much you could do with the $40B Germany has sent to Ukraine? How many schools you could build? How many hospitals? Maybe your roads would start looking like German roads again, and your trains would run on time.

During the recent Euro 2024 football tournament, many visitors were unpleasantly surprised at the condition of Germany's supposedly "superior" infrastructure.