The BEST Guide to POLAND
Unanswered  |  Archives [3] 
  
Account: Guest

Posts by delphiandomine  

Joined: 25 Nov 2008 / Male ♂
Warnings: 1 - Q		 Last Post: 17 Feb 2021
Threads: Total: 86 / Live: 15 / Archived: 71
Posts: Total: 17823 / Live: 4649 / Archived: 13174 		From: Poznań, Poland
Speaks Polish?: Yeah.
Interests: law, business

Displayed posts: 4664 / page 145 of 156
sort: Latest first   Oldest first   |
delphiandomine   
1 Nov 2010
News / Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last. [533]

The point is that it does not matter what you will be presented with - you think Poles deserve it. I don't have time for that nonsense. I'll stop here because the rest would be all insults.

All we're asking for is the copy of the actual school rules. It's not that difficult to produce, surely?

Or is this just another myth posted by convicted liars at Gazeta Polska?
delphiandomine   
1 Nov 2010
News / Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last. [533]

When you finally dig up the important and disturbing facts that Polish children are not allowed to chat in Polish between classes, the sign issue will seem minor and your thread will give a better picture of the problem.

Prove it. And I want to see the actual rules, not nonsense reported in nationalist, xenophobic newspapers which have been convicted of lying like Gazeta Polska. Heck, if you can provide something reported in Gazeta Wyborcza or Rzeczpospolita, it'll be a start.

Or is this just another case of believing everything you read?

there will still be the problem that Poland did precisely the same to her minorities back when the shoe was on the other foot. What goes around does eventually come around and it's hard to have sympathy for those who complain when others do to them exactly what they used to do to others.

Yup. The Ukrainian case is rather well documented. It would seem that Poles don't like their own medicine.

When Poland abides by all EU laws, then Poland can complain about other nations not abiding by EU law.

Sounds fair to me. Or is it a case of the old double standards? Let's not forget that Poland refuses to supply information in all the community languages, despite there being an obligation to do so.
delphiandomine   
31 Oct 2010
USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

Cultural identity is very interesting, especially how it changes.

The really, really fascinating one for me at the moment is with the Northern Irish Protestants - they identify as being British, but so many Brits are now identifying themselves as Scottish/Welsh/English - so what's going to happen with them if the UK splits up? They don't really identify themselves as being from any one particular place.

This thread is wandering from the opening post.
delphiandomine   
31 Oct 2010
Genealogy / Americans of Polish descent. How many of us are on Polish forums? [216]

they werent rich, they managed, but they graded the kids on appearance.. how screwed up was it back then?

Jesus, talk about discrimination :(

so I am sure it had to do with how he was treated, and my mom, people fit in if your not different.

Thanks - that was a really interesting insight, I appreciate you taking the time to post it :)
delphiandomine   
31 Oct 2010
USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

Paying taxes in Poland makes you less Scottish?

Can I use the cop-out that taxes paid in Scotland are given to the English oppressor?

Do you speak Scottish Gaelic?

Nope, there's no history of speaking it in my area. The North-East of Scotland never traditionally spoke it - we spoke Pictish, then moved to Scots - there was never any Gaelic dominance there.

What I mean though, is that often, the native culture of a country often influences the language. I found an absolutely fantastic essay a while ago online about how Irish influenced the English language there - I wish I could find it again :(
delphiandomine   
31 Oct 2010
USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

But they were brought up 100% Polish.

But were they? Pledging allegiance to a foreign flag every morning doesn't strike me as being 100% Polish, for instance. And not speaking the language fluently - well, they always say that you need to know the language to understand the culture.

(heck, from what I gather, you need to know Irish to understand Hiberno-English!)

Anyway, the whole something-American thing is just snobbery, nothing more.
delphiandomine   
31 Oct 2010
USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

As you know it is upbringing not some fantasy bloodline.

Bingo. Yet many of them claim that they're 100% POLISH - which is utter nonsense when you look at how ridiculously messed up Polish history is.

I hope you are not suggesting that bloodlines define people.

Not me, but the American Polonia is rather fond of saying how much Polish blood they have. The line "100% POLISH BLOOD" seems to be quite common among the more ignorant ones.
delphiandomine   
31 Oct 2010
USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

Because they said they were Polish and told their families that they were Polish.

Doesn't mean a thing - they might have been half Polish, half Lemko.
delphiandomine   
31 Oct 2010
USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

Who cares if you call them Polacks?

People like MediaWatch get very upset when you use the term Polack. It's highly amusing.

But why is it such a big deal to you?

I'm sick to death of the way that the American Polonia treat Poles. It's patronising, condescending and insulting in general.
delphiandomine   
31 Oct 2010
USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

Its simple Poland was a multi ethnic place. Being occupied didnt make them less Polish. Perhaps they haven't taken an absolutist view of history.

How do you know they were actually Polish? Speaking Polish didn't neccessarily mean they were Polish - after all, the Lithuanian elite spoke Polish.

Well, they are going to keep doing it anyway and they are going to have fun doing it regardless of you not understanding it or approving.

And we'll carry on ridiculing them and calling them "Polacks" and other offensive (to their oversensitive hearts) names.
delphiandomine   
31 Oct 2010
USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

Would that not work the opposite, that they would be fiercely defensive because that is the team they root for?

Well, I can understand it where both parents are Polish - but when they really are just your average American mutt, it's very odd. It's even stranger when they have a very mixed bloodline, yet they identify so strongly with Poland.

Is it? I have not heard a murmur of anything in the slightest that could be even remotely misinterpreted as giving me the faintest impression that this was even the seed of a concept in world media or even English media,

Yep, it's now being reported quite widely - not that anyone is surprised by it ;)

I think there's also an inquiry at the minute into IRA-Garda collusion too? The nicest thing I've read recently though was a proposal by some DUP guy - saying that Gardai should respond to things in border areas where the PSNI can't react quickly. Amazing, really.
delphiandomine   
31 Oct 2010
USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

I don't understand your point, could you give an example perhaps?

Hmm - what I mean is that it's surprising that they don't have more of a balanced opinion, because there's no reason for them to be fiercely defensive of Poland.

British media in world press left out the bits about the U.F.F, the red hand command, the U.V.F etc... and that the majority in Ireland are Irish not Unionists.
It didn't agree with them.

Tell me about it. I was reading some old articles - and you can clearly see that there was little to no recognition of what the Loyalists were doing. It's common knowledge now about collusion, but then?

(the more I read, the more I realise how utterly complicated NI is as a question, especially when you realise that successive Irish leaders had no real intention to unify Ireland)

While you stand up for the Star Spangled Banner, the OP jumps up for the Internationale.

Sorry, but I don't - I jump up for Ode to Europe instead.
delphiandomine   
31 Oct 2010
USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

The same can be said for every nationality.

Of course, but in their case, they have no real reason to. That's what makes it odd - you'd think that an American of Polish descent would be able to have a decent, critical viewpoint, but it seems that they have quite the opposite.
delphiandomine   
31 Oct 2010
Genealogy / Americans of Polish descent. How many of us are on Polish forums? [216]

and my parents spoke polish, but all of us
kids didnt know what they were saying

Why did your parents not teach you Polish?

It's interesting how many people had fluent Polish speakers for parents, yet they didn't learn themselves. It's the same with other languages, of course.
delphiandomine   
31 Oct 2010
USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

So although they are Americans many have the will to know about their European roots.

Actually, one thing that they often do (from what I can see) is ignore the bits of history that doesn't agree with what they want to hear. For example, Irish history - many of them knew fine well that Noraid was funding the IRA. But they ignored all the dodgy aspects of the IRA's operation - choosing only to focus on the part that was actually fighting the British. Or - many of them have the view that it should be BRITS OUT. The problem is that most of them have absolutely no idea who the "BRITS" are, nor do they have any concept that the Unionist faction is in the majority in Northern Ireland.

But they do seem to have a lot of knowledge about the things they want to know about.
delphiandomine   
31 Oct 2010
USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

He isnt even 1% Polish...

Don't ruin his dream, after all, Busha and Jaja told him otherwise!

From what I gather, Poles are quite happy to take their dumb cousins money, but they don't consider them to be equal.

(anyway, you can't be Polish if you don't have a dowód osobisty)
delphiandomine   
31 Oct 2010
USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

Do you have any idea the amount of money is funneled into that country via Pol Ams?? There is a reason they're allowed to vote.

Not as much as most of us living here pump in, and if money buys votes, why can't we vote for President but the Plastic Poles can?

I happen to have closer ties with another country than some American.

So - you're not even 50% Polish?
delphiandomine   
31 Oct 2010
USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

Of course not, they love to say they are Polish....but they are no more Polish than any Russian, actually, being in America probably means they have more in common with Russia than Poland!

The thing that many of them don't understand is that there's a bloody good chance that they aren't 100% Polish - looking at history, there was so much interbreeding with Germans, Czechs, Ruthenians, Lithuanians, Ukrainians, etc. Look at their language - the use of "Busha" for grandmother comes directly from Ukrainian.

Actually, what annoys me most is the way that they have such a poor grasp of history - they seem to believe that Poland always existed and that there's no way that Busha and Jaja could be from Russia - even when they were born in Russia.
delphiandomine   
31 Oct 2010
USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

But, since America is such a melting pot kinda place, we use decent to help identify ourselves.

Why not identify yourself as American? There's a great history there, the language is wonderfully interesting, there's some incredible scenery and such a varied climate. There's a nice anthem and plenty of things to rally around.

I wonder how many of these Plastic Poles would choose Poland over America if they had to? None of them would, I bet.
delphiandomine   
31 Oct 2010
USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

I agree. No doubt he is being provokative and he barely knows anything about Poland for all the time he supposedly lived there. It seems like he has some kind of vendetta against Poles.

Actually, it seems as if YOU are the one obsessed with conducting witch hunts against perceived anti-Polishness. Last time I checked, your type were the ones doing real harm to Poland.

He has barely learned anything about Poland in 2 years. After 2 years of living in Poland, delphiandomine can only barely speak Polish.

Uh, what do you know about my Polish skills? You don't know me, you're just an anonymous internet troll.

I seriously doubt he even lives in Poland. That's just his act. He reads English language news on Poland and then tries to use that news to make himself look like he is "on the ground in Poland" and an expert on Poland.

Actually, that's what the American Polonia do.

And you've been told by a moderator on this forum that I live in Poland, that I associate with Poles and even sorted him out with a place to stay with a Polish friend of mine. What about you? Who can vouch for you, Polack?

I believe he gets most of his English language news from Russian based English news sources like Russian RT news.

Would that be like how you obtained your information about Smolensk by an FSB-funded website?
delphiandomine   
31 Oct 2010
USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

From another source comes the information that other racial groups, namely, Russians, Ukrainians, Roumanians, Lithuanians, Czecho-Slovaks, Jugo-Slavs, Findlanders, Letts, all of Slavic origin will join in this Jewish boycott. Operations for management of same are now under way."

Wow. That's very, very interesting stuff - especially this part. Calling Romanians, "Finlanders" and "Letts" Slavic is probably about as offensive as it gets these days, but yet - it shows you a different time.

Now - did these events actually happen, or is it just scaremongering/hysteria on both sides?
delphiandomine   
31 Oct 2010
Genealogy / Americans of Polish descent. How many of us are on Polish forums? [216]

Can you explain exactly what makes you feel European?

Playing table football with a Hungarian, a Pole and a Frenchwoman would do that to you :)

I think I believed in the European dream at that moment...

Picture yourself 50 years down the road (out of Scotland), would you still be Scottish then? what would make you Scottish, your youth? your parents?

Birthplace and youth, I think - these two things tend to combine to give you a sense of identity.

I think you can see a comparison with the 1945-era Poles in the UK - they're still Polish, no matter what, even though their children and grandchildren are British.
delphiandomine   
31 Oct 2010
Genealogy / Americans of Polish descent. How many of us are on Polish forums? [216]

How long have you been out of Scotland Delphi? How long, if at all, would it take you not to be Scottish anymore?

Hmm - counting university (went to university in England) - this is my 5th year outside. Can't say I particularly miss the place either!

I don't think it's possible for a 1st generation immigrant to lose his nationality, but I do feel more and more European by the day.
delphiandomine   
31 Oct 2010
Genealogy / Americans of Polish descent. How many of us are on Polish forums? [216]

You mean just American born, or also Polish born naturalized citizens? depends what you mean

I would assume that she means anyone who considers themselves to be of Polish origin, regardless of birthplace?

Something else I'd like to know about the people who respond - when did you or your ancestors leave Poland?
delphiandomine   
31 Oct 2010
Work / Black English Teacher going to Wroclaw [247]

Of which 90% is male, having no ties to Poland whatsoever, only coming to study in Poland for the purpose of dating white females and marrying one to get a permanent visa.

It's not just blacks, but non-EU citizens as a whole.
delphiandomine   
31 Oct 2010
USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

now I know you a full of hot air. what a waste.

Typical Plastic Polonia response - hysteria, uneducated (just like the forefathers) and completely missing the point.

your disgusting, how can you say this?

For a start, it's "You're", not "your".

Anyway, if you had actually read the thread, you'd know that I was talking about teaching professionally. Nothing to do with sitting on "Jaja's" knee listening to boring stories about how he ran away from Poland in 1919 because he was such a patriot.
delphiandomine   
31 Oct 2010
USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

It seems to me that you are under a very false impression that you are an expert in Polish history, politics, society etc. I read a lot of your posts and believe me - you are NOT.

So, where am I wrong?

(I'm just waiting for the first comments about Jews, Michnik, Communism or Gazeta Wyborcza)

Which party tends to throw around "PROUD PATRIOTIC POLSKA"? It's certainly not PO or the SLD. Both of those parties also don't have a leader who seems to be desperate to become some sort of martyr.

I bet, "Braveheart" and quite a few Scots out there, would kick your butt for your opinion..

Thankfully, we've progressed beyond the Stone Age in Scotland.

You have a tendency to talk about physical threats for people's opinions?

Nothing new here, you see it all the time in Poland ;) Violence used against people who speak freely is nothing new here at all... :(