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Bobko   
18 Jun 2025
Genealogy / Russian POW Camp records [71]

As for the document in German, I am not sure how to do that

Just use the "+ files" button you see in the top right, when composing a post.

I gotta say - your grandpa is an unusual fellow.

Participated in the Polish-Soviet War, and then in the Polish-German war, and finally somehow ended up in Germany during the end stages of the war. Someone should make a movie about his adventures.

I assume that the military commendations you are referring to in the first part are Polish ones?
Bobko   
18 Jun 2025
News / Will Poland as a NATO member be drawn into the Israel/Iran war ? [250]

Israel has been attacked and threatened since its inception with annihilation

If you show this to an alien from the planet Niburu, in the galaxy Andromeda - he might say "This indicates to me that the location for this country was likely chosen unwisely."

If something has been in trouble since Day 1, and can not sustain itself without massive and constant infusions of money from abroad - this might be an indicator that its not a very sustainable entity.

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Imagine if in a few years Britain elects a wild prime minister, that within a short amount of time announces plans to stuff all the Irish into ovens and reannex Ireland back into the UK. Over the course of a few years, he would have nearly completed his job of exterminating the Irish... but then a joint Japanese-Brazilian expeditionary force liberates the island of Ireland itself, and places the UK under occupation.

An international body meets in Cape Town, to flesh out how the post-war world will look. Irish representatives from the United States, argue that Irish people will never again be able to feel safe, unless granted their own historic Celtic homeland.

By this time, the EU is a much more centralized entity - with most power concentrated in Brussels. For all intents and purposes, the EU has turned into a global superpower, and a real empire.

The EU proposes, that it has some territory in the vicinity of Switzerland and Austria, that it could be make available for Irish settlers. The Irish are ecstatic, since this is their ancient Heimat from which they were expelled by the Romans and Germans.

Local Swiss and Austrians are made to move high up into the valleys of the Tirol, while freeing up the fertile lowlands for the moving Irish. The local Irish tell them - "there's no such things as a Swiss or an Austrian - move back to Germany migrants!".

I think you understand where I am going...
Bobko   
18 Jun 2025
News / The Iran war and Poland [826]

Iran is about to lose all these heads and deciders.....

It's possible that they could simply collapse, sure.

Nobody thought that the 50-year old Assad regime could fall in just a matter of two weeks.

Nobody anticipated how quickly Hezbollah would crumble without the charismatic leadership of Nasrallah.

It's possible that the Islamic Republic is also just one big rotten facade that will come crashing down with a further couple kicks.

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I don't see its collapse as likely, however, unless Israel and Washington can convince Russia and China that this is in its interests. I can't speak for China, but I can explain how Israel could convince Russia:

1) Russia has incredibly close ties with Israel, through our diaspora. Up to 15% of Israel's population, are people from the former Soviet Union. Becoming an enemy of our own former compatriots, and by proxy the rest of international Jewry - is maybe not in Russia's interest.

2) Russia has increasingly close ties with Saudi Arabia (where we steer OPEC+ together), and the UAE (where many rich Russians live, and which is conduit for a large part of the sanctions busting trade). These two states are incredibly nervous about living next to Iran. They could reward us handsomely for sitting out this fight.

3) Under no circumstances is Russia interested in Iran having a nuke. In the past Israel had convinced us to halt jet fighter exports to Iran, and also managed to restrict the S-400 anti-air shipments to just a single battery. If Israel manages to convince Russia that a nuclear Iran is a virtual inevitability, that could convince Russia to stay out.

4) Last year, Russia became Iran's largest foreign investor. Israel, or whoever they have convinced to come and run Iran (the Shah, some liberals, whomever), has to make representations that all Russian property rights will be respected - including in Iran's key oil and gas industry.

5) All other agreements must be respected as well. Including the trade liberalization agreements, and the agreement to build the civilian nuclear power plant at Bushehr.

6) Whatever critical imports we require from Iran in support of the military operation in Ukraine, must continue to flow.
Bobko   
18 Jun 2025
News / The Iran war and Poland [826]

Do they have the capacity to do this or are they just sabre rattling since they know the end is near.

What they can do:

1) Block the straights with the hulls of scuttled ships, necessitating potentially weeks or months of salvage and clearance work.

2) Attack Saudi, Qatari, and Emirati oil terminals on the Western coast of the Gulf.

3) Use some of the thousands of short range missiles they have to strike American military bases in the region - the same way they struck an American air base in Iraq in response to the killing of Suleimani.

4) Reignite the sectarian war in Iraq, by unleashing Sadr once again.

5) Provide weapons and aid to Saudi Arabia's oppressed Shia minority - which happens to live on top of all of Saudi's oil reserves

6) Remove any prior restrictions on aid to the Houthis

7) Use the limited fissile material they have to set off a dirty bomb in Israel, potentially rendering large parts of it dangerous for human habitation

8) It could go the full terrorism route and start responding directly on NYC, Washington - it has infinitely more resources at its disposal compared to non-state actors like Al Qaeda and ISIS.
Bobko   
18 Jun 2025
News / Karol Nawrocki - the New President of Poland [381]

Nawrocki - despite the controversy - won the trust of many precisely because he did not belong to the elite.

This is the power of Putinism/Trumpism.
Bobko   
18 Jun 2025
Genealogy / Russian POW Camp records [71]

I can imagine a scenario in which he did get captured, but was released thanks to his German roots

There were some early-on exchanges of Poles between the USSR and Germany. I think it lasted exactly during that period - Sept 1939 to Summer of 1940. It would make sense that the Nazis would want us to hand back "German" Poles, though I had never read about this myself.

My understanding... more - was that the Nazis were sending us back Belorussians and Ukranians, and we were sending back Poles.
Bobko   
18 Jun 2025
Genealogy / Russian POW Camp records [71]

@gjene

Well, everything makes sense now. Almost.

Your grandpa was a Volksdeutsche. It's not likely he was captured at all.
Bobko   
17 Jun 2025
Genealogy / Russian POW Camp records [71]

May 1940 to August 1944 before relocating to Ulm

To go from Russian POW to "relocating" to Germany, at the top of the war (August 1944!!!) - is a very strange story indeed.

Possibilities:

1) He was mobilized into the Polish First Army in the USSR, straight from the camps. Then fought his way together with the Soviet army back into Europe, and one day quietly escaped. But then how did he settle in Ulm? Weird.

2) He had become a German collaborationist, after Germany somehow reached his camp. This seems unlikely, but I am not able to say for sure. It's my belief that Polish POWs were among the first to be moved East ahead of the advancing Germans. I may be wrong of course.

It makes no sense that your grandpa was free by the middle of 1940. The first Polish POWs were not released until mid 1941, under the Sikorski-Mayski Agreement (July, 1941). That agreement led to the formation of the so-called Anders Army, composed of Polish POWs and deportees.

Living in random places from 1940 to 44 was not really possible - unless you are talking about Kazakh SSR.
Bobko   
17 Jun 2025
News / The Iran war and Poland [826]

The one "friend", Putin's Russia

Putin's Russia is a little bit busy with something called the Ukraine War, but I'm still sure that advisers are being sent to help.

Iran's biggest friend is China - the main buyer of its oil exports. It buys approximately 2 million barrels a day from Iran, or about 90% of all it exports.

If Israel and America manage to bring Iranian oil off the market, the biggest loser will be China. Russia will actually gain tremendously, as will Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, and other big oil exporters.

It's China's silence that is more surprising - since this a critical part of their energy supply chain.
Bobko   
17 Jun 2025
News / The Iran war and Poland [826]

One was mostly Iron Age

Great. So Anglo racism explains why Saudi Arabia is treated like the child with Down's Syndrome, and Iran instead like a delinquent teenager.

They are forced to wear that.

Certainly not by their husbands. Meanwhile, most Saudi men treat their wives like cattle.

Did you know that women in Iran can drive automobiles since the 1930s, but in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia only since 2018 - and even then only with permission from their male guardian.

How about that Paulina? Wanna ask your husband for permission to drive?

How about this: women in KSA cannot leave prison or shelters without a male guardian's approval, even if they were jailed for "disobedience" or fleeing abuse. Haha!

Your husband can send you to prison, and not call you back home until he's ready!
Bobko   
17 Jun 2025
News / The Iran war and Poland [826]

An isolated population is alot easier to control

The international terminals in Istanbul, in Doha, and in Dubai will tell you that Iranians are anything but "isolated".

Their women enter the lavatory in modest dress and scarves, and then come out wearing designer jeans and shoes.

You can see them shopping in Moscow too. They are like anybody else. They like cosmetics, clothes, cars, and gadgets.

There are Ferraris and Maseratis in Tehran, and they can watch any tv show they want using a vpn.

Netanyahu has done a great job painting a caricature of Iran that the rest of the West has swallowed.

Saudi Arabia is 50 times more repressive religiously, than Iran. How many people did Iran publicly behead last year? How many did the Saudis behead? How many people's hands have the Saudi's chopped off? How many journalists did they execute? Doesn't matter. Saudis are good, because they are retards that can't even wipe their own butt without American or English help - and so they are found to be cute and harmless.
Bobko   
17 Jun 2025
Genealogy / Russian POW Camp records [71]

If your grandfather was not an officer, it is likely that he was filtered through camps and ended up within the GULAG system.

If he was an officer, he was likely executed at Katyn, Kalinin or Kharkov.

This Russian organization maintains a database for persons that been in the GULAG system:

memo.ru/ru-ru/collections/archives/structure/
Bobko   
17 Jun 2025
News / The Iran war and Poland [826]

russian involvement in the country, as often happens, is about shoring up minority rule against majority sentitment.

Russian involvement in Iran is probably one of the biggest blunders of Western foreign policy.

Iranians hate, hate, hate Russians. We carved off a good third of their country. All of modern Georgia, modern Azerbaijan, modern Armenia, parts of Dagestan and of Chechnya.

It's their equivalent of China's "Unequal Treaties", and a source of deep national humiliation.

Then we invaded them twice during the 20th century (last time in 1941). We supported Azeri and Kurdish separatism. Ran campaigns aimed at undermining the idea of an Iranian national state. And then finally acted as the primary supplier of weapons for Saddam during the Iran-Iraq War.

Like the Turks, they have a genetic mistrust towards Russians - and view it always as a potential enemy.

To mistreat Iran to such a degree that it runs into Russia's embrace, you need to be a real stable genius, or just Israel's lapdog.
Bobko   
17 Jun 2025
News / The Iran war and Poland [826]

A very constrained democracy since the theocrats in charge severely limit the range of candidates

This is why I said the elected civilian governments run "99% of day to day life".

Things like garbage collection, policing, healthcare, education, and so on.

The Supreme Leader legitimates this entire rule through his person. He sets and shapes the whole ideological climate - through his Friday sermons, and through his power to control key appointments in the judiciary and the media.

Technically - he is able to intervene in every corner of Iranian life. He can overrule the president. He can directly intervene in the lawmaking process. He can nullify or allow nuclear agreements. In practice - however - this has been an increasingly rare occurrence.

His meddling in Iranian domestic life is probably at its lowest level since the late 1990s.

What he and his IRGC buddies are obsessed with is their Axis of Resistance - which is all outside the country, and completely unaccountable to the civilian government of Iran. But all these machinations with Hezbollahs, Houthis, and Hamas' has no bearing on life in Iran itself. There's a huge Chinese wall between these things. In fact, there's a great deal of hypocrisy where Iran promotes much more aggressive strains of thought abroad, in comparison to what it is prepared to tolerate at home.
Bobko   
16 Jun 2025
News / The Iran war and Poland [826]

Most Gazans trace their roots to Palestine proper

This is a matter of record, to the level of birth certificates.

Israelis are happily living on land that Palestinians had been expropriated from within the lifetime of their grandparents.

Like the Ukrainians, they have renamed cities (which carried the same name for a thousand years or more), renamed streets, reclaimed temples, and razed family plantings going back generations - all in the name of some historical fiction to which no one has any relation.

Fanatics. Zealots. Dangerous people.
Bobko   
16 Jun 2025
News / The Iran war and Poland [826]

except KSA, Kuwait, Bahrain and Oman who pay others to do it.

Yes they mostly employ Englishmen to do the managerial work, and Banglas, Pakis, and Indians to do the rest. Very nice carryover from the Raj.

You forgot to mention the Arabs that are flourishing, or at very least have no foreigners to do all the work:

1) The Lebanese

2) The Tunisians

3) The Algerians

4) The Morroccans

5) The Egyptians - a very large country, and very poor, but because of its enormous size - a country that definitely has more talented people than say - Bulgaria.

Lazy Hejazis that do no work, and sit on an ocean of oil are not representative of all the other hardworking Arabs out there.
Bobko   
16 Jun 2025
Off-Topic / Is Islam a threat to western society? [167]

the fact that this degenerate did not have a knife, but a screwdriver, which he stuck in her eyes (actually gouged them out), and finally in her skull

Wtf.

This is not an immigration problem. It's a Polish problem. Where are your balls and where is your heart?

In Russia, Muslims are quieter than the brook, lower than the weeds.

In Russia, Muslims do not dare question Orthodoxy.

We are the only people in the world with orthodox Christian Muslims.
Bobko   
16 Jun 2025
News / The Iran war and Poland [826]

this time our Jews are f*cking up your Persians.

A myopic view.

Iran's interest, in this case, is Poland's interest.

If Iran loses - then this is not good for Poland. It would also be a serious additional argument for why Poland needs to develop nuclear weapons.

Poland is a natural partner for Iran. It's a great potential market for Polish exports. Its people are the most well-read and educated in the Middle East. There are historic ties between Persia and Poland - that I'm sure you yourself are aware of.

I don't have much to counter with

I'm not here to argue, and prove to everyone that nobody can be smarter than Bobko. But if these facts had changed your view, or made it more nuanced - these are things I want to know.

I'm against obscurantism. I want knowledge to flow in all directions, and I think this will make our societies happier.

Your posts are too long, too complicated, and they contain difficult words.

Richard is the uncontested genius for laying out complex thoughts in simple terms. I am not graced with the same talent as Mr. Mazur. It takes me a longer time to get my point across.
Bobko   
16 Jun 2025
Law / Zloty lifts Poland's Economy [58]

token for the Polish parliament to adopt the EURO as a national currency

Another believer in a Polonocentric model of the Solar System.

Why should the other states bend over backwards, for the great honor of Poland joining the Eurozone?

What's the benefit to Germany, of Poland in the Eurozone?

I've never lived in Poland, but imagine Poland already invoices everyone it trades with in Euros.

Nobody has to go looking for Zloty to pay Poland. They just pay Poland in Euros, and Poles go and bring this money to their national bank to get back Zlotys - used to pay taxes and buy goods inside Poland.

There is literally zero difference for the other EU member states when it comes to what Poland decides about the Zloty. The economy is big, but still small next to Germany's.
Bobko   
16 Jun 2025
News / The Iran war and Poland [826]

The weakest and most inconsequential player in this whole picture is Iran's pathetic army - the Artesh.

They have been completely neutered, with their balls sliced off.

They don't have an opinion about anything, and no one asks them for one.

Their funding is a fraction of the funding of the IRGC, and they have no businesses they own which they could use to create patronage networks.

Just good old military people, that don't care neither about Israel nor about nukes.
Bobko   
16 Jun 2025
News / The Iran war and Poland [826]

So having established that the Ayatollah Khamenei is not in favor of nuclear weapons, but rather wants to stay just below the threshold to maintain strategic ambiguity - then who does? I'm not sure, but let's go down the list.

Radically anti-Zionist civilian governments. One has to note that there is not one in power right now.

Hardline members of the IRGC. This I'm less inclined to believe, because these guys have the most to lose. Some experts estimate the amount of businesses the IRGC controls in Iran is such that the annual revenue exceeds $20 billion. Why would these guys try to destroy the goose that lays the golden eggs? Iranian sepoys are not stupid.

Fringe clerics with radicalized bases. This is more... concerning. It is known that Iran's establishment has trouble on both ends. From liberals, and from hardliners. At the moment the liberals seem to be mollified, and instead the hardliners are in ascendancy. Thanks to what? Thanks to Israel's unprovoked attack.

How does the Ayatollah ward off hardliners? By becoming more hard line himself. He's done this in the past by helping Ahmadinejad into power, and then regretted it bitterly.
Bobko   
16 Jun 2025
News / The Iran war and Poland [826]

That's them Mullah's for **** sake

You keep going on and on about Mullahs, but all it shows is how uninformed you are about modern Iran.

Ayatollah Khamenei is THE NUMBER 1 REASON Iran still does not have a nuclear weapon.

He has spoken extensively about the immorality of nuclear weapons, and has placed a fatwa on their development. The Revolutionary Guards, and the civilian foreign ministers always reference the Ayatollah's fatwa, when arguing why they are not weaponizing.

Iran has a complex society. It's an Islamic theocratic democracy (if you can imagine such a thing).

It has a civilian government, which is elected and runs 99% of normal day-to-day life. It is these democratically elected civilian governments which have been sometimes problematic, not just for the West but even for the Ayatollah. None more so than the government of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Hanging gay people from cranes, whipping young people for immodest dress, kidnapping people off the street for other perceived moral vices - this is what Ahmadinejad was all about. After a while, it really started grating on the Iranian population. Then it exploded into nationwide protests that lasted a year, following an election that was suspected to be rigged against Moussavi - the moderate opposition candidate.

The leader of the opposition, in many ways, was not Moussavi but another Ayatollah, of quite moderate views. The Grand Ayatollah Hossein-Ali Montazeri. It was the most real threat to the Islamic Republic since its founding. The so called Green Movement, was a backlash against the extremism of Ahmadinejad, and his policy of permanent confrontation with the West.

Eventually, Ahmadinejad's downfall was orchestrated by the Ayatollah himself. He has since spoken about the dangers presented by radicals, and has been a good partner to the much more moderate governments of Raisi and Pezeshkian.

Nobody remembers Ahmadinejad in Iran anymore, except to curse his name.
Bobko   
15 Jun 2025
News / The Iran war and Poland [826]

I take it back - I don't want them to be destroyed, but it would be nice if at least they disabled them to the extent where they can't occupy the Golan Heights and Southern Lebanon Willy-nilly.

That would be nice!
Bobko   
15 Jun 2025
News / The Iran war and Poland [826]

I hope Iran will destroy Israel.

For you history nerds above, that discuss why Iran and not Persia...

The word "Iran" though ancient, was brought back into the popular milieu by the Ilkhanid Mongols, under a grandson of Hulegu.

The Ilkhanids (who were opposed to our Mongols - the Golden Horde, on account of their pitiable Islamism), were the first to apply this supranationalist label to this geographic territory. To make it easier to control. The later Timur's, Saffavids and Qajars found it useful and continued it.

If Europe has the Peace of Westphalia, then the East has Genghis Khan - that set most modern boundaries.
Bobko   
15 Jun 2025
News / The Iran war and Poland [826]

Preemptive strikes are good movie material but don't look good if directed at us - whoever "us" is

Preemptive strikes worked fantastically well in Iraq and Libya.

Saddam and Ghaddafi are dead - and there are no more problems in the world since.

Jokes aside - this is exactly what Mr. Donald Trump was elected on.... He is breaking his promises.

His staunchest supporter - Steve Bannon - says there will be a showdown within MAGA over this bullshit.

He says - Israel is "Israel First", and we should be "America First". I agree with the guy.

No more eternal wars.
Bobko   
15 Jun 2025
News / The Iran war and Poland [826]

I noticed Iran has been hitting Israeli targets with much greater efficiency and accuracy these past 24 hours.

If it's not the Iranians putting themselves back together, then I hope it's Russia and China offering support.

Iran just lost its top three commanders on the first day of the Israeli strikes. The chief of the general staff, the head of the IRGC, and their chief nuclear scientist.

I'm sure the Ayatollah is disoriented, and not sure who he can rely on. The three men killed possessed deep and specific knowledge, and without them Iran is substantially adrift.

It should be the job of Chinese and Russians to offer comradely help in this moment. Dust off and shake out the Iranians from their state of shock. Give them a reason to believe in themselves again.

They are a great nation, with a glorious history. They cannot be allowed to be defeated by this upstart organization.
Bobko   
15 Jun 2025
News / Karol Nawrocki - the New President of Poland [381]

Who started that nonsense - those voters are this or that?

In the US, at least, things got a whole less classy in the Trump/Hillary cycle.

Hillary had her famous "Basket of Deplorables" moment, which probably lost her the election:

"You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. (Laughter/applause) Right? (Laughter/applause) They're racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic - you name it.

And unfortunately, there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people - now have 11 million. He tweets and retweets their offensive hateful mean-spirited rhetoric.

Now, some of those folks - they are irredeemable, but thankfully, they are not America."


I don't know what on God's green earth had compelled Hillary to say this out loud, but she was channeling what a lot of people in her party were thinking.

Previously candidates would stop short of throwing these kind of fire bombs, and still pretended at least to try to be "President of all Americans".

Trump was a good boy too, and would lead a chant of "Lock Her Up!" during many of his rallies. This was like crack cocaine to his electorate. All sorts of animal instincts were unleashed.

Contrast this to McCain's correction, when a woman at a town hall called Obama a Muslim (as if that's an indictment):

"No, ma'am. He's a decent family man, citizen, that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues, and that's what this campaign is all about".

This was highly classy, and made everyone respect John McCain much more. Maybe he would have beat Obama in the election, had he had thrown more napalm and used more corrosive speech, or didn't recruit a semi-literate retard as VP. But he didn't. He kept his good name, and didn't set American against American - even if it served his selfish interest.
Bobko   
9 Jun 2025
Feedback / I love this forum - It's so Polish: tolerant, inconsistent, amusing [325]

The 'short pieces' bit is definitely inaccurate

The piece is long and the piece is girthy - thanks for confirming the fallacy of this.

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The rest, well - I'm frankly insulted.

It seems ChatGPT will say whatever you want it to say. I asked (neutrally) about Bobko on this forum, and he gave me a very decent response. Nothing special, lower in rank than some other folks (you included), but nothing about me being a troll or a Russian intelligence officer as Paulina likes to propose.

You biased it with your prompt.