Food / Is brain-damaging vegan fad growing in Poland? [176]


No one, regardless of diet, is supposed to have that much muscle mass... it's inherently an unhealthy look.

Food / Is brain-damaging vegan fad growing in Poland? [176]


You still do, just different ones....


Here's dinner Ms. Herbivore

Food / Is brain-damaging vegan fad growing in Poland? [176]


No, I'm not. I'm an omnivore as evolution made me. I can and do eat plant and animal products and will not thive without both.


Interesting dairy cattle channels...

youtube.com/channel/UC0iNuhadNDm2nIqLTao85YQ

youtube.com/channel/UCNgolUwyOgZZDUoIeSyojpw

and for delph...

youtube.com/channel/UCo4S-ThBT3KDDHAMvKw2SQg

Food / Is brain-damaging vegan fad growing in Poland? [176]


Not when I'm not hungry and know I can easily buy meat products in a store.... and I do sometimes eat tripe...


So when you see a field of wheat do you feel the need to rip up whole stalks and chew them? Of to throw away your lawnmower and keep the grass chewed down by yourself?

So you swallow plant matter and then return some of it back into your mouth to chew it some more? Or to produce and consume cecotropes to give your system another chance to process that cellulose? Oh wait, humans can't digest cellulose....

Humans eat very little food in its fully natural state - plant products undergo just as much treatment as do animal products. Not proof of anything....

Food / Is brain-damaging vegan fad growing in Poland? [176]

What about anchovies?

I remember when they were the most controversial ingredient (apparently pizza places hate them because they stink up the kitchen long after they're gone).

Food / Is brain-damaging vegan fad growing in Poland? [176]


Begone demon!!!!!!

The only acceptable ingredients on pizza....

ground sausage (no casing)
pepperoni
green bell peper slices
onion slices
mushrooms (champignons)
cheese (the more the better)
anchovies
shrimp (maybe... kind of wild and crazy but it just might work)
broccoli (without any of the above except cheese - a local pizza place where I went to uni had deep dish broccoli slices that were really great).

I'm not crazy about the Polish tradition of squirting ketchup on pizza... the newer tradition of sauce (tomato and usually... garlic?) on the side is also kind of weird....

Also, room temperature leftover pizza is the greatest breakfast in the history of humanity....

Food / Is brain-damaging vegan fad growing in Poland? [176]


She wouldn't be accepted as a vegan my most who use that label.

I do actually agree that too many people eat too many animal products (esp meat) of low quality and the animal products mostly should be more expensive (enforced humane protocols escalate price, yes, good). Traditionally most cultures use meat more as a seasoning than a main ingredient..

But the leap to veganism doesn't follow.... I (and a bunch of others) have the idea that the media push toward veganism is corporate sponsorship to raise food prices (since vegan meat substitutes made up hyper-processed plant sludge are more expensive than meat).

Humans aren't herbivores and many/most end up malnourished on vegan diets....

Food / Is brain-damaging vegan fad growing in Poland? [176]


If we're going to have this discussion here.... it's not clear at all if veganism is scalable... over 80% who try a vegan diet give it up and feelings of dysphoria can apparently last for years...

I'm sure that some people can make a vegan diet work but a lot of others (doing everything 'right') can't make it work.

Maybe in 50 or 100 or so years it will feasible but.... at present it's a non-starter.

Food / Is brain-damaging vegan fad growing in Poland? [176]

Maybe the vegan propaganda (that doesn't mention specific youtube videos or channels) can be moved to random? No need for it here...

Food / Is brain-damaging vegan fad growing in Poland? [176]


Exactly, that's how Temple Grandin was able to get people to follow her protocols...

Latest vegan cringe/drama.... the Notorious Jame A (who's always sounded kind of borderline retarded to me) is either being conned or actively trying to con others with some kind of shady bitcoin scheme with a roided up (coked up?) bipolar dudebro in Panama....

Amazing video from someone who was briefly almost conned by them...

youtube.com/watch?v=-DqW38SqAZU

Food / Is brain-damaging vegan fad growing in Poland? [176]


I don't respond well to orders, especially from proselytizers....

Veganism functions as a kind of pseudo-religion and slaughterhouse footage is the vegan crucifix....

I've seen factory farm and slaughterhouse footage before, and I'm still an omnivore.

I'm all for improving the treatment of food animals within the context of being an omnivore.

I'm not interested in consuming hyper-produced industrial plant sludge.

Food / Is brain-damaging vegan fad growing in Poland? [176]

There is more humane and less humane... I'm all in favor of more humane methods. If your position is that all slaughter is inhumane then one method is as good as another. Again, is that where you want to go?

IIRC there's a Temple Grandin lecture where says that different breeds of pig respond differently to carbon dioxide (some breeds simply quickly lose consciousness) and that it shouldn't be used with all breeds.

Food / Is brain-damaging vegan fad growing in Poland? [176]


If it isn't.... then factory farms and regulations on handing animals before slaughter aren't needed... is that where you wanna go?

People (as designed by evolution or god or whatever) are obligate omnivores and veganism isn't found among any pre-industrial or historical population.

Again, I find veganism a non-starter but nothing is funnier than vegan emotional drama....

Food / Is brain-damaging vegan fad growing in Poland? [176]

for example... (tour starts about 2:30 in)

youtube.com/watch?v=VMqYYXswono

Food / Is brain-damaging vegan fad growing in Poland? [176]


I didn't say it was... but the current controversy (which I was referring to) was initiated by James Aspey who is IINM Australian (most high profile Australian vegans are kind of.... how do I put this..... nuts).

I'm not interested in veganism as a diet (I'm an omnivore who is all for animal welfare within the context of human consumption) but just for the never-ending drama among high profile vegans... great soap opera.

Food / British food products in Poland? [334]


The traditional Irish emotional attachment to potatoes (even knitting little jackets for them!) is really heartwarming.

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Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 2 [1680]


no such words will be found in a Polish dictionary....

skrzydła anioła sounds like a loan translation, maybe used by a few pol-ams in the past but not in Poland itself (where they are called faworki or chruściki)

if you put "skrzydła anioła" into google images.... no pictures of faworki/chruściki show up (on the first page at least).

Study / School meals in Poland [145]


Except she'd presumably know how to handle the situation in Poland (short version: like you said, start getting in their faces....)

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 2 [1680]


skrzydła anioła...

IME in the US faworki would be called crullers

Food / Bologna & onions in Poland? [44]


I thought that was the DDR.... where it was called Jägerschnitzel (Hunter's schnitzel) and an iconic part of DDR food

I didn't like the egg and flour fried version but the breaded and fried version is okay...

I ran my 'renamed doctor's sausage' hypothesis by a friend (and mortadela fan) and they thought it was possible (this person recognizes that it's not that much like Italian mortadella).

Food / Bologna & onions in Poland? [44]


Since this has been opened up again...

For anyone with experience in ex-Soviet countries... how similar is Doctor's Sausage (Докторская колбаса) to Polish mortadela...

Given the Polish tendency to rename dishes from Russia (Russian Olivier salad as sałatka jarzynowa or wiosenna, Chicken Kiev as "De volaille") could mortadela just be Doctor's Sausage given a non-Russian name?

Does anyone know when/how it was introduced to Poland?

Language / What is your biggest problem with Polish language? [158]


start to put zgubion- into google and it auto completes with things like zgubione prawo jazdy, zgubiony dowód, zgubiona karta pojazdu

And...

sjp.pwn.pl/slowniki/zgubiony.html

Language / What is your biggest problem with Polish language? [158]


zgubiony = I can't find it (something physical like your phone or watch)

zagubiony = more metaphoric, someone who has lost their way, a place that can't be found etc

Life / Polish TV is so goddamn awful! [7]


I used to have 25 German channels... weird beyond measure....

Language / What is your biggest problem with Polish language? [158]


At the phonetic level (as in measurable in a lab) there's little to no difference, but perceptually there is.

Compare Polish pronunciation of the name Biden (bajden with two clear vowels) and the American pronunciation [ˈbaɪdn] with a syllable n

english speakers speaking Polish tend to reduce some vowels too much pronouncing Marek as ['marək] instead of ['marek] (for example)

Language / What is your biggest problem with Polish language? [158]


Syllable timed - every vowel receives its full value and the time it takes to say a sentence depends on how many syllables there are

Stressed timed - unstressed vowels are severely reduced (or maybe even disappear) and the time it takes to say a sentence depends on the number of _stressed_ syllables there are.

Polish is traditionally syllable timed (with Spanish, Greek, Italian, French) English is stressed timed (along with other Germanic languages)

Sometimes different varieties of the same language differ, European Portuguese is stressed timed and Brazilian more syllable timed, Mexican Spanish is becoming more stress timed (devoicing or eliminating many unstressed syllables).

The harder to define languages have elements of both, maybe because of long and short vowels (Czech, Hungarian) or maybe because vowel reduction occurs wihtout shortening (Russian).

Language / What is your biggest problem with Polish language? [158]


Not since the 1960s.... the modern pronunciation is probably better for singing (less obstruction)

Another reason that overemphasizing consonants doesn't help singing in Polish is that there are very many more unvoiced consonants/clusters (p vs b, t vs d, s vs z etc) than average and voiceless consonants obstruct sound more than voiced ones do (compare the sequences akasa and agaza which is easier to sing).

But rather than just complain look for models of vocal projection...

Also try to do singing translations - take a song in English and try to produce a translation that can be sung in Polish. It would do your awareness a great deal...

Language / What is your biggest problem with Polish language? [158]


One issue... I think a lot of Polish singers over emphasize consonants (and sit on them too long) consonants interrupt the air flow and sound and need to be pronounced as lightly and quickly as possible (Bodo is doing that).

Also the Polish general affection for rough scratchy voices means too many singers aren't trying to produce clean sound.... (again Bodo's sound is very projected and clean).

I really like Edyta Bartosiewicz but her diction is a bit hit and miss... (better than most but still a bit hit and miss).

youtube.com/watch?v=g6YkpNV_anY

Language / What is your biggest problem with Polish language? [158]

Post Bel Canto pre Verismo - the war horses (Verdi, Wagner, Gounod, Massenet et al) are established and that period has never been that extensively explored beyond them after WWII (the single exception might be the revival of Mefistofele by Boito) that whole period has never been 'rediscovered like Bel Canto in the 1950s-60s or Handel and Vivaldi beginning in the 1990s... I keep waiting for an extensive rediscovery of verismo but Puccini takes up all that space....

extra treat: Friday's I'm in Love in Russian (my favorite song by the Cure but this version is fun too)

youtube.com/watch?v=YjQSoTbEhBM

There was a version in British Sign Language on youtube years ago but it seems to have disappeared....

Language / What is your biggest problem with Polish language? [158]


That's a real problem in Halka, I agree, just look at Jontek's aria

Szumią kurwwa jodły na gór szczycie,
Szumią sobie kurvva w dal!
I młodemu kurwwa smutne życie,
Gdy ma kurvva w sercu żal...


Trying to make Polish sound more like English doesn't equal 'better'....

Learn Italian (best language for sining on earth) and get back to us...

youtube.com/watch?v=tPv9ZPXmFWU

(okay, fai has a diphthong but none of those sustained notes do....