Bratwurst Boy
21 Aug 2010
Bratwurst Boy
21 Aug 2010
History / Polish civilization is older than English or French. Why do Poland follow them? [64]
And again...our ancestors had that too...they had their wood houses, their wood walls etc.
They even had already 1600 BC such a metallurgy and knowledge of astronomy that not even the Egypts had at that time (Sky disc)...
Stop reading up the Romans so much but start learning more about your own people...barbarians or not! ;)
Well...now it seems the higher developed a society becomes the more they care for their environment...retracting the walls between them and nature...giving back...guarding nature...;)
PRO-nature is the direction it goes!
And because our ancestors pagan beliefs doesn't need stone monuments to worship doesn't mean it was somehow "less"...
All a matter of view point it seems.
This show that culture and civilisation is a creation sth. new sth. what doesn`t have anything in common with nature.
And again...our ancestors had that too...they had their wood houses, their wood walls etc.
They even had already 1600 BC such a metallurgy and knowledge of astronomy that not even the Egypts had at that time (Sky disc)...
Stop reading up the Romans so much but start learning more about your own people...barbarians or not! ;)
The culture and civilisations stands oppose to the nature. When society appears, the first what people make is border beetwen them and nature.
Well...now it seems the higher developed a society becomes the more they care for their environment...retracting the walls between them and nature...giving back...guarding nature...;)
PRO-nature is the direction it goes!
And because our ancestors pagan beliefs doesn't need stone monuments to worship doesn't mean it was somehow "less"...
All a matter of view point it seems.
Bratwurst Boy
21 Aug 2010
History / Polish civilization is older than English or French. Why do Poland follow them? [64]
...and civilisation doesn't mean better bath houses or roads!
The tribes had laws too and even better gender equality...they didn't prefer to live in crowded, stinking towns and loyalty and honor counted more than political intrigues.
Civilization is an attitude and a way of life. In no way where the Romans more civilized than the tribes...The freedom loving Celts for example had been more civilized than the Romans who after long fighting enslaved one half and killed the other half.
When you want to count architecture like roads as signs for civilization then you have to count Hitler's autobahns too. That way lays madness.
It seems it's a philosophical decision one has to make for himself...what counts as civilization for one self.
Maybe we just have to agree to disagree here.
Yes BB indeed. Civilisated doesn`t mean good, honest, just or fair. Civilisation don`t have positive or negative meaning. It is neutral.
...and civilisation doesn't mean better bath houses or roads!
The tribes had laws too and even better gender equality...they didn't prefer to live in crowded, stinking towns and loyalty and honor counted more than political intrigues.
Civilization is an attitude and a way of life. In no way where the Romans more civilized than the tribes...The freedom loving Celts for example had been more civilized than the Romans who after long fighting enslaved one half and killed the other half.
When you want to count architecture like roads as signs for civilization then you have to count Hitler's autobahns too. That way lays madness.
It seems it's a philosophical decision one has to make for himself...what counts as civilization for one self.
Maybe we just have to agree to disagree here.
Bratwurst Boy
20 Aug 2010
History / Polish civilization is older than English or French. Why do Poland follow them? [64]
Yeah....I'm losing my patience quicker than I was used to...sorry...
But I really have a problem with lazy brains...and stating that the murderous roman empire which enslaved the world and even murdered whole people for his own gain is hold up as "civilization" whereas their enemies and victims are sold to us as "barbarians".
And especially galling if one of us, whose ancestors fighted these killers, bought that victor propaganda and still beliefs these myths...
That is equally to a Pole or a Jew buying and believing Hitlers subhuman myths...it boggles the mind.
But just abit more reading or even googling would help you think otherwise...but some are just to lazy for that!
Some food for thought:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebra_sky_disk
The european "barbarians" had such things earlier than the "civilized" Egyptians? Huh???
'Can't be...or can it?
;)
I noticed BB that you like to call sb idiots nazi etc.
Yeah....I'm losing my patience quicker than I was used to...sorry...
But I really have a problem with lazy brains...and stating that the murderous roman empire which enslaved the world and even murdered whole people for his own gain is hold up as "civilization" whereas their enemies and victims are sold to us as "barbarians".
And especially galling if one of us, whose ancestors fighted these killers, bought that victor propaganda and still beliefs these myths...
That is equally to a Pole or a Jew buying and believing Hitlers subhuman myths...it boggles the mind.
But just abit more reading or even googling would help you think otherwise...but some are just to lazy for that!
Some food for thought:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebra_sky_disk
The european "barbarians" had such things earlier than the "civilized" Egyptians? Huh???
'Can't be...or can it?
;)
Bratwurst Boy
20 Aug 2010
History / Polish civilization is older than English or French. Why do Poland follow them? [64]
You are an helpless idiot if you think having the bigger army makes one more civilized!
Hitler was right then, wasn't he!
But who knows people will talk about Nazi Germany in a few hundred years similiarly...after all they had been so developed compared to their neighbours!
Have a look at that...it might help open your eyes...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Jones%27_Barbarians
timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/article714033.ece
Time to update your beliefs!
You are an helpless idiot if you think having the bigger army makes one more civilized!
Hitler was right then, wasn't he!
But who knows people will talk about Nazi Germany in a few hundred years similiarly...after all they had been so developed compared to their neighbours!
Have a look at that...it might help open your eyes...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Jones%27_Barbarians
The popular view of Celtic society is that it was primitive and uncivilized. Terry Jones sets out to challenge this view. Far from being primitive compared to Rome, it was an advanced society that was in some ways even more advanced than Rome. For example, many of the roads in Gaul that were assumed to have been built by the Romans, turn out to have been built by the Celts themselves....
timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/article714033.ece
Decline and fall of the Roman myth
We were 'barbarians', but early British civilisation outshone the Roman version, says ex-Python Terry Jones. We just lost the propaganda war
We were 'barbarians', but early British civilisation outshone the Roman version, says ex-Python Terry Jones. We just lost the propaganda war
The fact that we still think of the Celts, the Huns, the Vandals, the Goths and so on as "barbarians" means that we have all fallen hook, line and sinker for Roman propaganda.We actually owe far more to the so-called "barbarians" than we do to the men in togas.
Time to update your beliefs!
Bratwurst Boy
20 Aug 2010
History / Polish civilization is older than English or French. Why do Poland follow them? [64]
Why?
The tribes back then had architecture and law too...
Do you think someone with better autobahns is more civilized than the neighbour who don't have them? (or not as well build ones)
Why?
The tribes back then had architecture and law too...
Do you think someone with better autobahns is more civilized than the neighbour who don't have them? (or not as well build ones)
Bratwurst Boy
20 Aug 2010
History / Polish civilization is older than English or French. Why do Poland follow them? [64]
Will do...;)
Define civilization then...
ask archduke ;)
Will do...;)
And NO IMO naked men with spears(druids) are not civilisated people.
Define civilization then...
Bratwurst Boy
20 Aug 2010
History / Polish civilization is older than English or French. Why do Poland follow them? [64]
Heh:)
But still you try your best to spread your inanity in such a microbic language...what happened??? ;)
Comparing to Slavic languages, English, French, Spanish or German languages are on the level of little baby. No, rather on the level of microbes. With all due respect of course on all European non-Slavic languages
Heh:)
But still you try your best to spread your inanity in such a microbic language...what happened??? ;)
Bratwurst Boy
20 Aug 2010
History / Polish civilization is older than English or French. Why do Poland follow them? [64]
Again defending your people Serb-Sascha???
LOL
Again defending your people Serb-Sascha???
LOL
Bratwurst Boy
13 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [239]
Crap! People are moving because the whole towns depending on one Kombinat as common during commie times have a hard time to rebuild and restructure themselves and to build a new diverse Mittelstand. That will take another generation or two.
Also the wages and others stuff is still not on par with the West because of the high costs
of the rebuilding, but that won't take as long.
PS: At least they are not moving to another country...;)
Eastern Germany was/is being rebuild from scratch as flattened West Germany was after the war...soon to be the most modern part of Germany.
But already today eastern Länder like Saxony are leading the country in high tech and green energy! And Wessis are coming for work here..."Silicon Saxony" ;)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Saxony
:)
It's the Wessis who now want the Soli tax be scratched or used for their own holey roads instead.
Well...there will always be Meck-Pomm but they can work it out with Tourism....
BB eastern Germany even today is sh*t, people preferred to abandon it rather then rebuild so your point is moot.
Crap! People are moving because the whole towns depending on one Kombinat as common during commie times have a hard time to rebuild and restructure themselves and to build a new diverse Mittelstand. That will take another generation or two.
Also the wages and others stuff is still not on par with the West because of the high costs
of the rebuilding, but that won't take as long.
PS: At least they are not moving to another country...;)
Eastern Germany was/is being rebuild from scratch as flattened West Germany was after the war...soon to be the most modern part of Germany.
But already today eastern Länder like Saxony are leading the country in high tech and green energy! And Wessis are coming for work here..."Silicon Saxony" ;)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Saxony
:)
It's the Wessis who now want the Soli tax be scratched or used for their own holey roads instead.
Well...there will always be Meck-Pomm but they can work it out with Tourism....
Bratwurst Boy
13 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [239]
Well...I do...can't find any sense...please explain! Stop being so mysterious! ;)
we all should think about this sentenc
Well...I do...can't find any sense...please explain! Stop being so mysterious! ;)
Bratwurst Boy
13 Aug 2010
Bratwurst Boy
13 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [239]
Yadda yadda yadda...
Germany was destroyed and partitioned also for 60 years...and West Germany had to integrate and modernize a whole country in the last 20 years....nobody was born with the golden spoon.
Oh I do...Germany is working hard to make and keep Poland prosperous and stable.
All are profiting from that. It would be nice of you to recognize this now and then too...instead of always harking back to "the war" and enjoying germanophobe barbs.
What is that supposed to mean?
From the other hand Poland before the war wasn’t the most developed country in Europe but was richer than some countries which are today considered as “old EU” and our aim is to regain our position. It seems we are going to regain our position but it will be harder.
Yadda yadda yadda...
Germany was destroyed and partitioned also for 60 years...and West Germany had to integrate and modernize a whole country in the last 20 years....nobody was born with the golden spoon.
As our negihbour you should wish us luck, all in all it is better to have rich Polish neighbours.
Oh I do...Germany is working hard to make and keep Poland prosperous and stable.
All are profiting from that. It would be nice of you to recognize this now and then too...instead of always harking back to "the war" and enjoying germanophobe barbs.
We are going to see what will happen in the future but leadership hasn’t been given forever. I am sure that one day Poland will support some regions in Western Europe.
What is that supposed to mean?
Bratwurst Boy
13 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [239]
Oh boy...get your facts right!
auswaertiges-amt.de/diplo/en/Laenderinformationen/01-Laender/Polen.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Poland
Nothing comes close to your cuddly neighbour Germany! ;)
Around 1/3 of your economy is dependent on Germany...
The other way around though: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Germany
It will take awhile for Poland to feature in these rankings I think....but I'm optimistic! :)
It seems that on many fields Polish capital is being stronger and stronger and Germans buy more and more Polish products as we buy more and more european products.
Oh boy...get your facts right!
auswaertiges-amt.de/diplo/en/Laenderinformationen/01-Laender/Polen.html
....
In terms of both the number of investors and the total amount invested, Germany ranks firstamong foreign direct investors in Poland, German direct investments currently amounting to at least EUR 1 billion, and totalling more than EUR 20 billion since Poland's change of political system in 1989/1990 (2007: EUR 3 billion; 2008: EUR 1.6 billion).
Major German investments in Poland focus on the automotive and mechanical engineering industries, the chemical and pharmaceutical industries, banking and insurance, the wholesale and retail trade as well as the energy sector. Also of increasing importance is business process outsourcing, e.g. in the IT sector.
In terms of both the number of investors and the total amount invested, Germany ranks firstamong foreign direct investors in Poland, German direct investments currently amounting to at least EUR 1 billion, and totalling more than EUR 20 billion since Poland's change of political system in 1989/1990 (2007: EUR 3 billion; 2008: EUR 1.6 billion).
Major German investments in Poland focus on the automotive and mechanical engineering industries, the chemical and pharmaceutical industries, banking and insurance, the wholesale and retail trade as well as the energy sector. Also of increasing importance is business process outsourcing, e.g. in the IT sector.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Poland
Main export partners (of Poland)
Germany 26.1%,
France 6.9%,
Italy 6.9%,
United Kingdom 6.4%,
Czech Republic 5.8%,
Netherlands 4.2% (2009)
Germany 26.1%,
France 6.9%,
Italy 6.9%,
United Kingdom 6.4%,
Czech Republic 5.8%,
Netherlands 4.2% (2009)
Main import partners (of Poland)
Germany 22.4%,
China 9.3%,
Russia 8.5%,
Italy 6.8%,
France 4.6%,
Netherlands 3.6% (2009)
Germany 22.4%,
China 9.3%,
Russia 8.5%,
Italy 6.8%,
France 4.6%,
Netherlands 3.6% (2009)
Nothing comes close to your cuddly neighbour Germany! ;)
Around 1/3 of your economy is dependent on Germany...
The other way around though: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Germany
Main export partners (of Germany)
France 10.2%,
U.S. 6.7%,
Netherlands 6.7%,
U.K. 6.6%,
Italy 6.3%,
Austria 6%,
China 4.5%,
Switzerland 4.4%
France 10.2%,
U.S. 6.7%,
Netherlands 6.7%,
U.K. 6.6%,
Italy 6.3%,
Austria 6%,
China 4.5%,
Switzerland 4.4%
Main import partners of Germany
Netherlands 8.5%,
China 8.2%,
France 8.2%,
U.S. 5.9%,
Italy 5.9%,
U.K. 4.9%,
Belgium 4.3%,
Austria 4.3%,
Switzerland 4.2%
Netherlands 8.5%,
China 8.2%,
France 8.2%,
U.S. 5.9%,
Italy 5.9%,
U.K. 4.9%,
Belgium 4.3%,
Austria 4.3%,
Switzerland 4.2%
It will take awhile for Poland to feature in these rankings I think....but I'm optimistic! :)
Bratwurst Boy
13 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [239]
My talking! :)
Na ja..it's a bit more than just bringing them "on board"...
They were toddlers when their families came to Germany...they got entirely schooled, trained and educated in the german system.
Who knows what would had become of them if they had stayed in Poland? I'm not sure if one can guarantee their talent would had been discovered and furthered that way if the environment would had been different....
Poland and Germany are very similiar actually...also with being football crazy...Poland once had a good team too...but something right now sucks in the system...
Maybe they were already more merged then meets the eye? Especially with intermarriages on the border area.
My talking! :)
Poland's loss and Germany's gain. Germany deserves credit for bringing them on board.
Na ja..it's a bit more than just bringing them "on board"...
They were toddlers when their families came to Germany...they got entirely schooled, trained and educated in the german system.
Who knows what would had become of them if they had stayed in Poland? I'm not sure if one can guarantee their talent would had been discovered and furthered that way if the environment would had been different....
Poland and Germany are very similiar actually...also with being football crazy...Poland once had a good team too...but something right now sucks in the system...
Bratwurst Boy
13 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [239]
When Germany "runs out of money" all other european countries (inclusive Poland) will be much to busy with their own catastrophes having "run out of money" long before Germany.
So, don't get your knickers in a knot about that one! ;)
And vice versa too...a richer Poland which doesn't need so much support money anymore and can buy more of our products is preferable for us too..
Yeah...our Mannschaft plays way more attractive by now! :)
I meant that when you will run out of money
When Germany "runs out of money" all other european countries (inclusive Poland) will be much to busy with their own catastrophes having "run out of money" long before Germany.
So, don't get your knickers in a knot about that one! ;)
As for me richer Germany is better for Poland because all in all we are neighbors and trade partners
And vice versa too...a richer Poland which doesn't need so much support money anymore and can buy more of our products is preferable for us too..
but honestly saying Germany in Polish eyes isn’t what it was few years ago.
Yeah...our Mannschaft plays way more attractive by now! :)
Bratwurst Boy
13 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [239]
Nah...Germans cheer for everybody who scores for the Mannschaft!
We are totally unbiased in that regard....he scores - we love him!!! :)
Nazi or not
We should just merge...that way the Poles get to cheer something too! Okay? :)
Germans of 2010 cheer for Polish soccer players on the German team because they are not like Germans of WWII.
Nah...Germans cheer for everybody who scores for the Mannschaft!
We are totally unbiased in that regard....he scores - we love him!!! :)
Nazi or not
Maybe we can build on those modern sentiments.
We should just merge...that way the Poles get to cheer something too! Okay? :)
Bratwurst Boy
13 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [239]
Nope, I'm not an expert on Göbbels I'm afraid...are there any fictional novels I can read to learn the truth about him?
Nope, I'm not an expert on Göbbels I'm afraid...are there any fictional novels I can read to learn the truth about him?
Bratwurst Boy
13 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [239]
Curious...Poles steal our cars and their players prefer playing for us....hmmm....
Why is that so???
Don't tell me...you read that in yet another novel, didn't you! ;)
What then?
Then it's still again the Deutsche Mark and still the Zloty....Poles loved the Mark too...they couldn't get enough of them.
Millions of Poles left backward, poor Poland for successfull Germany over the years...and for the Deutsche Mark :)
Nothing will change actually...
Who cares...if it helps to win the European Song contest...:):):)
Curious...Poles steal our cars and their players prefer playing for us....hmmm....
Why is that so???
kind of reminds me when in WW2 Goebbels was traveling across the polish country side and noticed how all the Poles fit the ideal German characteristics more then the germans themselves ahaha
Don't tell me...you read that in yet another novel, didn't you! ;)
They take your Euro and everybody knows that it is Polish blood. When your Euro will end ...
What then?
Then it's still again the Deutsche Mark and still the Zloty....Poles loved the Mark too...they couldn't get enough of them.
Millions of Poles left backward, poor Poland for successfull Germany over the years...and for the Deutsche Mark :)
Nothing will change actually...
BB the truth is that you buy europes symphaty.
Who cares...if it helps to win the European Song contest...:):):)
Bratwurst Boy
13 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [239]
Women synchron swimming?
Golf?
...?
Rofl
Germany owns Poland...we don't even have borders anymore...:)
We will leave you your flags if they mean so much to you! ;)
Football last time isn’t our strongest point but in many other sports we are stronger than ever.
Women synchron swimming?
Golf?
...?
Anny way it is good that when you see Polish flag in Wroclaw you think about football, good boy you make progress.
Rofl
Germany owns Poland...we don't even have borders anymore...:)
We will leave you your flags if they mean so much to you! ;)
Bratwurst Boy
13 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [239]
You "heard" Klose???
Or did you just read about him in a novel??? ;)
And why don't they play for Poland then....did that mean they don't want to be losing all the time?
Yeah...definitely looks that way:
Man...can you see them suffer! :(
Last time in heard Klose saying and I quote " I'ld rather play for Poland" .....Podolski & did Trochowski said somthing similar.
You "heard" Klose???
Or did you just read about him in a novel??? ;)
And why don't they play for Poland then....did that mean they don't want to be losing all the time?
i bet it kills them inside.
Yeah...definitely looks that way:
Man...can you see them suffer! :(
Bratwurst Boy
13 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [239]
Yeah...I wonder why they prefer mean Germany to glorious Poland! Bringing goals and honor to the german Fatherland....hmmmm...*wonder wonder*
Thank you btw...keep them bringing on....:)
Cars that way ----------->
<-------- Players this way
Heh:)
Yeah...I wonder why they prefer mean Germany to glorious Poland! Bringing goals and honor to the german Fatherland....hmmmm...*wonder wonder*
Thank you btw...keep them bringing on....:)
Cars that way ----------->
<-------- Players this way
Heh:)
Bratwurst Boy
13 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [239]
Erm...yes???
Another football game lost???
(You should really try some Germans...)
:):):)
Random (google) picture with Polish flag made in Wrocław
Erm...yes???
Another football game lost???
(You should really try some Germans...)
:):):)
Bratwurst Boy
13 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [239]
We don't do humour...it's all meant seriously!
Was that meant to be a German joke?
We don't do humour...it's all meant seriously!
Bratwurst Boy
13 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [239]
Ouch...now that hurt! ;)
Bigger fish than us? I demand to find and shoot them! :)
Ouch...now that hurt! ;)
Bigger fish than us? I demand to find and shoot them! :)
Bratwurst Boy
13 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [239]
What...no mud slinging anymore??? :(
What...no mud slinging anymore??? :(
Bratwurst Boy
13 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [239]
....it was always enough to kick polish arse ;)
Still scared of big, bad, mean Germans Luki? Oh..btw...long time no see...what took you so long from your latest banning?
MW you are just to good for us....leave us to our mud battle! ;)
I'm bored! The Poles are still my fav counterpart for some good mud slinging :)
Germans from more than 100 years are being beaten by everybody. Always at the beginning they looked like arrogant bratwurst and at the end their country looked like brothel.
....it was always enough to kick polish arse ;)
Still scared of big, bad, mean Germans Luki? Oh..btw...long time no see...what took you so long from your latest banning?
MW you are just to good for us....leave us to our mud battle! ;)
I'm bored! The Poles are still my fav counterpart for some good mud slinging :)
Bratwurst Boy
13 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [239]
Oh...from a novel...whoa! Now that is a beating argument!
What you read in a fictional novel must be true of course! Oh...and I have read they had tails and fire came out when they spoke...not to mention the hornes...I've read it I swear!
This is an extract from a Polish novel in 1926!!
Oh...from a novel...whoa! Now that is a beating argument!
What you read in a fictional novel must be true of course! Oh...and I have read they had tails and fire came out when they spoke...not to mention the hornes...I've read it I swear!
Bratwurst Boy
13 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [239]
Yeah! :)
Maybe focus on those Polish soccer players helping the German team win games?
Yeah! :)
Bratwurst Boy
13 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [239]
There was recently a reenactment with thousands of people posing proudly in the Knights garb...;)
I doubt Poland would let you...they know what they have here with all these world heritage sites of german origin!
Warsaw is and was ugly...Breslau and Danzig on the other hand...beauties! ;)
Emperor William II of Germany posed for a photo in 1902, in the garb of a monk from the Teutonic Order, climbing up the stairs in the reconstructed Marienburg Castle as a symbol of the German Empire's policy.
There was recently a reenactment with thousands of people posing proudly in the Knights garb...;)
I would happily bulldoze those shitheaps for the"Paris of the east" Warsaw which was destroyed by those pathetic krauts
I doubt Poland would let you...they know what they have here with all these world heritage sites of german origin!
Warsaw is and was ugly...Breslau and Danzig on the other hand...beauties! ;)