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Bobko   
18 Jun 2024
Travel / Poles as tourists in foreign countries [93]

the Africans immigrants that I come in contact with are as quiet as mice

You are right.

Now, black Americans

Yes!

I don't understand, why two guys standing 40 centimeters away from each other, in an absolutely silent train car, feel the need to tell their story about what happened at the construction site that morning at 110 decibels.

But I also like it, when my favorite guy at the local Subway shop greets me like I'm king Ashurbanipal III entering Nineveh.
Bobko   
18 Jun 2024
Travel / Poles as tourists in foreign countries [93]

Now, Poles are quiet...my story.

I immediately remarked upon this to my friend.

When people from Russia visit me in America, they're always astonished at how extremely loud Americans are. A typical sentiment is, "I can't hear myself think in this restaurant".

Now, when I go home people tell me to keep my voice down, because "the whole restaurant can hear about your problems". I'm realizing I'm becoming loud as well.

In that line to the check in desk, we were definitely the loudest people there.

Even when people get plastered in Eastern Europe, it doesn't even approach the level of loudness from some Puerto Rican or Black mom in the subway casually herding her kids into the train car.

A Russian concert, is probably still quieter than your average American tailgate party consisting of just 10 people.

But I think it's not only Russians and Poles that consider Americans ridiculously loud - but all of Europe and Asia.

You guys have to go to Africa to find your peers.
Bobko   
18 Jun 2024
Travel / Poles as tourists in foreign countries [93]

A few days ago, I took someone here in New York to the airport in Newark, so they could catch a LOT flight to Rzeszow.

This flight flies only once a week, on Sundays.

The rest of the time you have to take indirect flights going to Warsaw first.

My expectation was that I would see a lot of the typical crowd of spies, defense contractors, big muscly men my age, reporters, etc.

Barely saw any of these. Mostly just Polish families. Actually few Ukrainians... Here are my impressions in bullet list:

1) Poles have a lot of kids, at least those traveling
2) Poles like dogs. Three different families shipping a dog in a crate.
3) Poles are quiet like Russians. Huge line of 200+ ppl, but still very quiet.
4) Poles have big noses.
5) Polish women are very pretty, up to about 35-40 years. Then they turn into Russian-style matrons.
6) Poles like luxury brands.
7) Poles don't like black people or Jews - picked this up just eavesdropping.
8) Polish grandmas and grandpas are identical to ours, in appearance, in behavior - everything.
Bobko   
12 Jun 2024
Off-Topic / Feed Back on the Moderating - Part 2 [190]

Boomers and Gen Xers destroying each other on PF is a sight to behold.

Following on the heels of the Greatest Generation, you are a pathetic bunch of grown children.

"Me, me, me!!!"
Bobko   
11 Jun 2024
History / Why Was D-Day So Significant for Poland ? [266]

remember that there was already a first front in Britain and the Atlantic then there was another one in Africa and then Italy.

More jokes.

1) Britain was never invaded. The Battle of Britain, was fought entirely in the air, and lasted approx. three months from July to Oct. of 1940. Props to the British Air Force for being able to establish eventual air superiority.

2) The Battle of the Atlantic involved several hundred submarines, and maybe several thousand merchant ships and government owned cargo carriers. The total losses are tallied in the tens of thousands. In other words, approximately a week of Stalingrad fighting.

3) The North African Campaign was an absolute sideshow next to what was happening on the Eastern Front. Once again, total casualties are tallied only in the tens of thousands. Many more were captured, but that is because Hitler and Mussolini had no means of shipping those men back to the Continent. Soldiers who were transferred from North Africa to the Eastern Front, would complain that it was like entering hell (btw the soldiers transferred from France and the Low Countries complained about the same thing).

Bottom line - the scale, brutality, and amount of armament involved - puts the Eastern Front on an entirely different level than any other theater of the war. The Eastern Front of WW2 is the most brutal fighting experienced in the history of our species. Meanwhile, the battles in the West, in Africa, in Asia, could have easily happened in WW1 or in the 19th century in terms of the losses involved.

Britain and France both lost much more men in WW1 than in WW2, though that war is rarely ever discussed when fighting for bragging rights over the dead.

Britain - WW1 losses: 887K military deaths
Britain - WW2 losses: 383K military deaths

France - WW1 losses: 1.4M military deaths
France - WW2 losses: 217k military deaths.
Bobko   
10 Jun 2024
History / Russian Greatness - and its Polish Contributors [77]

Can you decide what you want at last?

I apologize Sensei. You are correct.

You have accurately pointed out the logical fallacy of my constructed argument.
Bobko   
10 Jun 2024
History / Russian Greatness - and its Polish Contributors [77]

perceived as a Pole in Russia and as a Russian in Poland

Much of my surrounding also finds my infatuation with Poland suspicious. I'm not Polish by blood (except a very small part), so of course I try to defend myself.

Bottom line - Poland should one day become part of a 4-Nation unity. Poland, Belarus, Ukraine, Russia. One spiritual and philosophical continuum.

We have more in common with each other - and what will make us strong - than what separates us.
Bobko   
10 Jun 2024
History / Russian Greatness - and its Polish Contributors [77]

I thought you intended to learn sth about Poland and Poles/Polesses

How do you know that I am NOT learning right now, at this very moment?

I'm sorry to hear that, Bobi

Apologies Monsieur - this was addressed at my nemesis.
Bobko   
10 Jun 2024
History / Russian Greatness - and its Polish Contributors [77]

Your negative appraisals are valued at close to zero by me.

yes, he defended characteristic Polish military traditions

Kania, dearest...

Polish military traditions are important, and it is always - in general - important to be respectful towards local customs and traditions.

But I feel you are focusing on the crumbs along the kitchen table, while we have this grand turkey of a feast situated in the middle.

The man, did more than any Western commander to defeat Nazi Germany.

He is a hero of quite literally legendary status in Russia.

He commanded MILLIONS of people.

As a professional military man, that was forced to go to Warsaw to serve in the civilian role of "Minister of Defense" - I'm sure most of the time he was bored out of his mind and was not very efficient.
Bobko   
10 Jun 2024
History / Russian Greatness - and its Polish Contributors [77]

Wouldn't it had been more patriotic to end Stalin?

And lose the war and present our undefended anus to Das Deutsches Reich?

Vlasov tried that.

He is now forever the Judas of the Russian people. His name is mixed with sh*t, anytime it is mentioned.

Life was no picnic back then. There was no justice to be found. Men like him, that acted responsibly regardless of this chaos - we owe them a special debt.

Rokossovski is one of the greatest Poles in history for Russians.
Bobko   
10 Jun 2024
History / Russian Greatness - and its Polish Contributors [77]

@Paulina

Did anyone attack Poland since then?

Did Poland kick Hungarian and Czech ass together with us?

Does Poland have a powerful military in the present?

What did Rokossovski do to you that was bad? How did he betray you?
Bobko   
10 Jun 2024
History / Russian Greatness - and its Polish Contributors [77]

Rokossovski was subjected to torture during the Stalinist purge

He was subjected to extreme hounding and humiliation.

His wife and children were sent into internal exile.

Himself, he was pressured to sign all nature of false confessions which were popular at the time. The price for not signing these confessions, was inhuman beatings and other forms of torture.

He never ratted anyone out. He never confessed. Then, when the time came, and the country came calling - he answered the call.

This is a patriot of Russia.

Russia brutalized him and spat in his face, trampled over everything he held dear, and yet he went out there and laid his soul down for the defense.

This makes Rokossovski more Russian than most Russians.
Bobko   
10 Jun 2024
History / Russian Greatness - and its Polish Contributors [77]

Hahahaha

Yeah "hahahaha".

Find in 1949 in Poland a Pole that had experience of commanding a front consisting of multiple millions of people.

Find a Pole that was treated as an equal by Montgomery and McArthur.

Find a Pole that had the same level of connections in Moscow.
Bobko   
10 Jun 2024
History / Russian Greatness - and its Polish Contributors [77]

Enough for today.

Tomorrow, I decided, I will give another go to Rokossovski.

One of the most exceptional Soviet commanders in all of WW2 (perhaps, the most talented).

Born in Warsaw in 1896, he started indicating Velikiye Luki as his birthplace, after being awarded two consecutive Hero of the Soviet Union orders.

Known to us as Konstantin Konstantinovich, he was born Konstantin Ksavyerovich. Some historians assert that his real birth name was Kasimir.

His father was Ksaveriy Yuzefovich Rokossovski (Glyaubich and Orsha arms). Inspector of the Warsaw railroads.

In 1949, the Polish President Bolesław Bierut, requested the Soviet government to send the Pole Konstantinos Rokossovski to Warsaw to serve as Minister of Defense.


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Bobko   
10 Jun 2024
History / Why Was D-Day So Significant for Poland ? [266]

@Novichok

This post... I feel owe you a State Award from the Russian government.

This is what we have believed all along.

They were delighted when the Nazis and Bolsheviks were butchering each other. Then when the communists started making startling advances, they finally got going.
Bobko   
10 Jun 2024
History / Russian Greatness - and its Polish Contributors [77]

rus. transl. Кржижано́вский

Do you feel the Russian writing and resulting pronunciation is accurate to how Poles would pronounce it?

How do you rate Russian in general at producing Polish sounds?

There's no r sound

Which makes me wonder why we put the R back in there in Russia, when Poles don't use it. Seems wrong. Thanks for this!
Bobko   
10 Jun 2024
History / Russian Greatness - and its Polish Contributors [77]

the zh (Polish ż) sound is not present in German (but present in English as in garage)

I noticed a long time ago that Germans write our Zh sounds as Sch, though.

It makes them sound very funny when they speak Russian. The German accent in Russian is probably one of the most funny ones.

What do you propose they use instead if you say yourself they don't have that sound?
Bobko   
10 Jun 2024
History / Russian Greatness - and its Polish Contributors [77]

Wow! :)

Omg, haha. I butchered his last name in transliteration.

It is not "Kri-schi-SCHIV-onowski"

It is "Kri-schi-SCHAN-owski"

I will admit, Poles could have simpler names and it would make life much easier.
Bobko   
10 Jun 2024
History / Russian Greatness - and its Polish Contributors [77]

How do you speak that?

Well, it's technically only three consonants. The Russian Ж, becomes Zh in Latin transliteration.

It's pronounced Kry-zhy-zhyv-onovski.

How can the Polish noble surname Krzyżanowski be so mistreated?

We literally spelled it exactly as it was written in Polish, but using Russian letters. You should say thank you. In America this would become Krysanovski.
Bobko   
10 Jun 2024
History / Russian Greatness - and its Polish Contributors [77]

Today's Great Russian Pole - Gleb Maksimilianovich Krzhizhanovsky.

Born to an old szlachta family, he was one of Vladimir Lenin's oldest and closest friends.

In the early days, he was the editor of the Rabotnik newspaper, and a cofounder of the League of Struggle for the Emancipation of the Working Class.

Later, when sitting in prison with Lenin, he wrote the Russian words to the Warszawianka.

However important his work was in the early revolutionary circles, Krzhizhanovsky is most remembered for something else. That is, being the head of the GOELRO and the first Chairman of the GOSPLAN.

It's hard to identify two organizations more important to Soviet life in the first decades of its existence. GOELRO, was the state plan for the electrification of Russia. That plan is responsible for the building of the mighty hydroelectric dams in Ukraine, and across Russia proper. The industrialization of the Soviet Union was inextricably linked to the GOELRO plan, administered by this Pole.

The GOSPLAN, is of course the Soviet ministry which managed all of planning in our centrally planned economy.

After his death, Krzhizhanovsky was buried along the Kremlin Wall in the necropolis along with other heroes of Russian history.


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Bobko   
9 Jun 2024
History / Russian Greatness - and its Polish Contributors [77]

an incorrigible imperial Russian. :):):)

If you know that I am "Imperial" - then you must understand that I am not a nationalist and not a xenophobe.

A Pole serving Russia, is equal in my eyes to a Russian serving Russia, and above a Russian who is Russian in name only.
Bobko   
9 Jun 2024
History / Russian Greatness - and its Polish Contributors [77]

Just because I quit the "Polish Aid..." thread, does not mean I am done.

As mentioned, I enjoy being an advocate for my beloved homeland. However, I am not here to autofellate my patriotism. The goal is to talk to Poles.

Poles have made crucial and formative contributions to the development of Russia as a modern state. I wanted to start a thread dedicated to important Poles in Russian history. I already made separate threads in the past about Dzerzhinsky and Rokossovski, but wanted to continue within a new thread going forward.

My list of greatest Poles in Russian history is as follows:

1) Nikolai Przhevalsky - probably one of the greatest Russian geographers and naturalists. He put Central Asia on the map, discovered many species considered lost (including the ancestor of all horses - named after him), and created maps important to Russia's Great Power competition with Britain for control over Afghanistan.

2) Konstantin Tsiolkovsky - as Wikipedia says: "Along with Hermann Oberth and Robert H. Goddard, he is one of the pioneers of space flight and the founding father of modern rocketry and astronautics." This Pole helped Russia beat the West in the Space Race, and is legitimately considered the father of Russian space exploration.

3) Dmitry Shostakovich - one of the greatest and most accomplished composers and pianists of Russia's Soviet period, whose stature grows every year since his death. Perhaps one of the greatest composers of the 20th century.
Bobko   
8 Jun 2024
History / Why Was D-Day So Significant for Poland ? [266]

D-Day was the turning point of the war

Do you smoke crack?

For those of you out there that are not history buffs - D Day was a large allied amphibious landing in Northern France. It represented the long awaited opening of a second front against Hitlerite Germany, from the West.

It occurred on June 6, 1944. I will repeat that - June 6, 1944.

We had been begging the allies to open a second front every year since 1941. Every year the operation was delayed under some new and very convenient excuse.

I think the Americans and Brits were happy to watch the Nazis and Bolsheviks slaughter each other.

By the time the Normandy landings happened, Germany was a shadow of itself and retreating in the East as fast as the German soldiers' legs could carry them.

Turning point of the war... This is a spit in the face of millions of Soviet citizens. Ever heard of Stalingrad? There, in an attack on a single tractor plant, Germany lost more men than in the Battle of France.

I repeat, a smaller episode of street fighting in Stalingrad was bigger than the entire collapse of France.
Bobko   
4 Jun 2024
News / Polish coal will be back [129]

Literally "public furnaces", installed for purpose of keeping people warm, and fired by coal.

I'm sure this is not a phenomenon present in Warsaw, Krakow, Gdańsk... but I have seen plenty of photos.
Bobko   
4 Jun 2024
News / Polish coal will be back [129]

@Lenka

What horrifies me, even as a Russian, is the little coal furnaces Poles install throughout their cities - including bus stations.

Seriously?

It's not even that cold, what the hell are you protecting yourself from?

In St. Petersburg it can be minus 25 on a good day in the winter, and there are no coal burners.

The best place I saw for this was Oslo. They had glass tunnels throughout their city which were warmed by air conditioning.