Life / Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage. [237]

I would add an emotional connection.

Imagine a football game (or any other team game you love)...let's say its between Germany and Poland....whom are you cheering for?

That is always a good question for any kind of immigrant....there are lots of Turks in Germany who have grown up and lived here in the now third generation (with german IDs by now) and still cheer for the turkish team when it comes to play Germany.

Citizenship is an official act, the culture you can learn about in school, but all that does nothing for the heart!

Off-Topic / American Jew Voice in Poland [93]


Do you have a link?

Life / Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage. [237]


Yes, time matters...there is such a thing as mixing, intermarrying through the centuries...you know :)

I call them "Germoles"! :) Only separated by politics. Some of them have german surnames, some of them have polish surnames, some of them grew up as Poles, some of them grew up as Germans, but their ethnicity is forever mixed. There must be millions of them by now...a whole new country!

Life / Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage. [237]


....and I think this answer has been already given.

If Poles would really prefer to stay poor but polish they wouldn't walk all over Europe in search for work and better shores. They would stay home, poorer but as Poles in polish Poland.

Life / Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage. [237]


Well...now and in the near future it's every man for himself (or country).

Germany's labor market is even more starved than Polands, after all Germany has an already huge economy to keep running. And since the Ukrainians can now choose to work in the EU, not only Poland anymore, Germany needs and wants their share.


Expectations! South East Asians don't expect as much as even Ukrainians now do, their standards are lower than anywhere in Europe, they are (still) happier with less wages and living standards. And they won't leave Poland so quickly for Germany since they don't have what Ukrainians now have, to be able to look for work in the whole of the EU.


emerging-europe.com/news/poland-faces-increasing-competition-for-ukrainian-workers

Polish recruitment agencies operating in Ukraine have reported that competition for Ukrainian workers is growing in Europe, particularly in the Visegrad countries and Germany.

According to Polish daily Rzeczpospolita, Poland's attractiveness for Ukrainian workers is decreasing. Ever-increasing numbers being employed by Czech and Slovak companies offering higher salaries and two-year contracts.

"Czechs are recruiting more and more workers from Ukraine and soon a large proportion of professionals will leave for Germany," said Marian Przeździecki, the head of Ukrainian branch of recruitment agency Work Service.....

Life / Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage. [237]

Of course it will...these Indian/Pakistanis/Filipinos are the polish new Turks.

Badly needed foreign workers to build the polish "Wirtschaftswunder"....the same misconceptions (they will leave again + we will stay the same)....the same outcome...multi-kulti (in one generation or two).

There is really only alternative for the polish gov, to close the borders but with that they will need to sell their people a stagnating economy, the end of the rise to a european power, the fall back and loss of many achievements (wages, welfare because to expensive etc.). Poland will get poorer again, Poles might leave again...

Frankly it won't happen...so future multi-kulti it is. Poland the island of white in a "brown" see is an illusion which will get destroyed by realpolitik.

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

War movies are enough for me, thanks!

"Die Russen kommen" is only a joke now in modern Berlin...I prefer that...

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

Even so, what are you gonna do with the two thirds who think differently?

Poland isn't Britain! Poland is much more like Germany and France, we are continentals without another option, we don't even have the illusion of an island and a Commonwealth to fall back on. We have no other home than Europe. There will never be a majority for leaving Europe in our countries.

(And even in Britain with all that it's only 50/50 max)

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

A link?

I have a survey from from 9/2018

According to an opinion poll whose results were published on Saturday, over 65 percent of all respondents in Poland oppose the idea of their country leaving the EU, with about 17 percent being of the opposite view. A further 17 percent had no opinion concerning the hypothetical Polexit.

News / Pawel Adamowicz, Gdansk mayor, dies after stabbing [354]


I doubt that very much!

Nationalists have a gread disadvantage. The moment they should work together and their own nation doesn't comes "first" they usually end all alliance. That's what makes them so weak in the end. That's why they will always lose. They might agree on immigration, but they disagree on all the rest.

See Polands closest ally Hungary for example, Orban has nothing against a much warmer relationship with Putin's Russia and his alliance with Kaczynski didn't stop him to vote for Tusk in Brussels.

Salvini is also alot more interested in Moscow than Warsaw (he was one of the few joining Putin in Moscow at the finals) and you won't seriously think that he will vote for pouring any more EU funds into Poland, he will will demand more for himself instead.


ft.com/content/5b3fc72e-8348-11e8-96dd-fa565ec55929

Nationalists make for pathetic alliances! They will change nothing.

News / Pawel Adamowicz, Gdansk mayor, dies after stabbing [354]


Well, that difference might be negligible in your opinion but it's big enough to make your demand....


...impossible to fullfil.

There is no all powerful ruler in Berlin who has the right to decide for everybody what to do and what not. As long as these politicians don't speak officially for the german gov they are free to go where they want and to support whom they want and to meet with whom they want, even if that directly contradicts the official german gov policy.

News / Pawel Adamowicz, Gdansk mayor, dies after stabbing [354]


Agreed....that is meddling. I wouldn't like it either if Poles would start coming over supporting a party I don't like.

There is a certain kind of insensitivity sometimes on the german side, mostly lefties...the same when some left/greens join a polish demonstration /or the protest against it, whatever. I don't think that is their place to be.

But be assured that this is not the country of Germany meddling in the country of Poland, that is solely between like minded politicians. In an even more integrating Europe for some more and easily acceptable than for others. After all, in Brussels these politicians share the same party alliance, so they want to support each other.

News / Pawel Adamowicz, Gdansk mayor, dies after stabbing [354]


Yeah...I would like to know...I know nothing about Adamowicz' connections to Germany. How did he "invite Germans to meddle in polish affairs", please tell me more!

You have to know something, don't you. You would'nt just throw such dumb and loaded accusations blindly into the room, wouldn't you.

News / Pawel Adamowicz, Gdansk mayor, dies after stabbing [354]

What a procession!


tvn24.pl/tvn24-news-in-english,157,m/poles-walked-beside-the-coffin-of-gdansk-s-former-mayor-pawel-adamowicz,901776.html

theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/19/thousands-march-beside-coffin-of-murdered-gdansk-mayor

News / Pawel Adamowicz, Gdansk mayor, dies after stabbing [354]


Yeah....well....and in this world, your world, Adamowicz was a traitor to the polish people and had to be killed for the good cause.

God have mercy with you!

I'm bowing out here...

News / Pawel Adamowicz, Gdansk mayor, dies after stabbing [354]


I think K. would like one...

News / Pawel Adamowicz, Gdansk mayor, dies after stabbing [354]


Just supplant "Russia" with "Germany".

Kaczynski loves his Poles perpetually at war best...


What exactly do you mean by that? Poles are all over Europe by now...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migrations_from_Poland_since_EU_accession

News / Pawel Adamowicz, Gdansk mayor, dies after stabbing [354]

And it's interesting...many people in Germany say the deep divisions inside the population and the rougher language and loss of good behaviour in politics is a consequence of the mass immigration and its failures, especially rising after 2015.

But Poland doesn't have said immigration problems. But nonetheless it too seems to have become a country with a deeply split population which fights each other with ever more mercilessness and ever less will to compromise.

The same happened in Britain, in the US, in France...but it aren't the illegals, so it must be something else.

News / Pawel Adamowicz, Gdansk mayor, dies after stabbing [354]

I know that, but I would like to know how extremists justify the murder of a politician who was that popular that he was re-elected for a sixth term!

I'm really curious...I've known Iron for years.

News / Pawel Adamowicz, Gdansk mayor, dies after stabbing [354]


How did he do that?

News / Pawel Adamowicz, Gdansk mayor, dies after stabbing [354]


Yes, an enormous achievement. He must have been a great mayor!

And Torq is totally right....you only have to smear someone for long enough and some nutter will take it as an order...


Over 50% of the Danziger voted for him during the first round last November...he must have a huge family!

He is dead, what else do you want now?

Polonia / Poland, Germany, France, Spain or Greece? [35]

@Lyzko
You just shouldn't mumble but speak loud and clear!

:)

News / Pawel Adamowicz, Gdansk mayor, dies after stabbing [354]

RIP Pawel Adamowicz

(I hope me saying the appropriate and polite isn't seen by certain nutters as proof that he was deep in Merkel's pockets and an agent of the fourth Reich to enslave the free polish people, if so I still don't take it back...)

Off-Topic / Ukraine, Belarus, Russia in EU in 2030? [105]


Some problems can't be solved with money...the EU had to learn that the hard way (Greece).

Off-Topic / Ukraine, Belarus, Russia in EU in 2030? [105]


...they have the potential to destabilize the whole EU. Not every country needs to be an EU member!


One thing is for sure, the differences were widely underestimated...and that's why I think we shouldn't make that mistake again with the Balkan countries. We have time!

Off-Topic / Ukraine, Belarus, Russia in EU in 2030? [105]

Frankly I don't want any Balkan country in the EU...we have to many differences right now since the latest enlargement as it is...

Off-Topic / Ukraine, Belarus, Russia in EU in 2030? [105]


Why is that plausible? That man Kononenko could also say the moon is made up of joghurt...would that be plausible too? Who is that guy?

I will wait for the german press to pick that up...till now there is nothing...so...

Off-Topic / Ukraine, Belarus, Russia in EU in 2030? [105]

Not Merkel said that!


And frankly...it's quite unbelievable!

Alone the accession protocol takes longer...even for stable new prospects. For difficult ones like Ukraine it could take decades (aka Serbia, Turkey)....

That's more realistic:

History / Occupation of Eastern Poland in 1939 [98]


We would need to borrow some functioning ones first...

History / Occupation of Eastern Poland in 1939 [98]

100 will be the new 50, I swear! :)