News / What will Britain's Labor Coup mean for Poland? [100]

For a moment, I thought it said Labour Coop which appears on the voting form in some constituencies where the MP or candidate is a member of both Labour and Coop.

People forget about the Coop Party whose members are usually all also part of the Labour Party. I'm in it too but more out of habit; but don't get involved.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co-operative_Party

So fúcking happy today...

News / What will Britain's Labor Coup mean for Poland? [100]

Labour, not labor.

It's excellent news.

History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]


Plenty can.

Life / Poland Is A Gem In Europe [71]

They do. And plenty grow it, sell it, cook with it and eat it.

Life / Poland Is A Gem In Europe [71]


The soft fruit is good; there's a lot of it. Everything else is much the same except for the meat which is worse than anywhere west of a certain line.

News / Referendum to decide about exotic immigrants in Poland [559]


He's a centrist rather than a Socialist and very much not a globalist, but don't mind the details or truth.


They haven't finished yet and the second round may well be different.

Study / Which is better, Nicolaus Copernicus Medical University or Wroclaw Medical University? [12]

Very true.

And it's just an easier place, better infrastructure, very different people and easier to be foreign.

A bit more expensive but not crazily so and going to Toruń might feel a bit like stepping into the past.

That's not always a bad thing, but not necessarily how every younger person would want to spend 5 years.

Study / Which is better, Nicolaus Copernicus Medical University or Wroclaw Medical University? [12]


THis is true. Although Torun is pretty city (in the centre, anyway), it could become claustrophobic quickly and is very definitely provincial in atmosphere.

News / Coronavirus in Poland - part 2 [599]

[quoteI]Ididn't say alters or changes your DNA[/quote]If it "gets in", how is it "in" unless it somehow "alters or changes"?

UK, Ireland / Better being female in UK or Poland? [33]

That's really sweet of you...

UK, Ireland / Better being female in UK or Poland? [33]


Did you think that U.K. nationals can only be citizens of one country?

Do you think some might be citizens of somewhere else that they've lived for a long long time.

You seem to have a fixation with The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, the Crown Dependencies, Overseas Territories and His Majesty's Other Commonwealth Realms as well as its people. Never mind, no matter how hard you try, you'll never win the lottery of life in terms of privilege and be a WASP.

Life / Poland Is A Gem In Europe [71]


Gulag, not Gulags. It's uncountable.


The USSR gave that name to the organisation who ran the camps.The existing camps that is, including some of the worst ones. They'd been around for a while.

To quote your impulsive, rash, impudent, jejeune and over-hasty words, evidently this is "you being ignorant of history or you actually being ashamed". Though shame is not your strong point. Ignorance and a failure to think things through however very much are. That and incelism.

Anyway, you're taking a good thread off topic. Go and wibble in Random Chat where you belong.

Life / Poland Is A Gem In Europe [71]


He didn't say that, did he?

Some things are better in one place and some in another.

Food standards are generally higher in Europe. Regulations are much tighter.

Life / Poland Is A Gem In Europe [71]


You can have a nice holiday at home as we've both said. Of course if Trade Unions or Workers' Collectives opened holiday camps abroad, like the Methodists have in Formentera, prices could be lower.


And still deriving from society and people selling their labour to exploiters.


Or held back by.


Tsarist r*SSia (which invented the Gulag system) wasn't an opponent of capitalist exploitation. Far from it even.

Life / Poland Is A Gem In Europe [71]


Yes, better to produce items at a lower cost without foreign investors sucking 'profit' out. And if people borrow, better to do so without someone skimming 'profit' from their loans.


Why "splurge". Nobody's suggesting the Ritz Hotel. A nice workers holiday camp will do.

Remember, there's no individual wealth. It derives from society and is sadly frequently expropriated by the greedy.

Life / Poland Is A Gem In Europe [71]


Of course. It's society's money, generated by the people.


In my experience, one generation makes the money, the second lives on it and does nowt and the third spends it all.


I'm sort of there now. I'd rather have a parent alive than the house though, and rather have had nice holidays than eventually inheriting an 80s McMansion with Artex ceilings.

People have to balance spending with prudence. Sometimes spending money on pure enjoyment is an investment into the Bank of Memories. Better that than being tight with money just so you can spawn another generation of skinflints.

Life / Poland Is A Gem In Europe [71]


More a negative trait and hardly forgotten given the number of people that are tighter than a gnat's chuff.


A work ethic. Let them earn for themselves. They'll get the house to sell anyway.

Life / What gifts to take? Presents customs in Poland. [173]

There's loads of different types there, marbled, chocolate flavour etc.

Life / What gifts to take? Presents customs in Poland. [173]


That's the problem....

Full breakfast, Yorkshire pudding and Indian food.

To get back on topic, I always bring back a load of English confectionary to give as presents in Poland. Home is not too far away from the Licorice Allsorts factory and they have a really good factory shop.

Life / Poland Is A Gem In Europe [71]


Despite their best efforts, the materialist propaganda from capitalism is relentless.


I'd say mostly the opposite, though thriftiness isn't a virtue, unless you want to be buried in a gold coffin.

Life / What gifts to take? Presents customs in Poland. [173]

I'm sort of twitching now.

Back in England soon, and bang goes the diet...

Some shops in Poland sell chocolate covered marzipan. I think imported from Germany.

One thing I like in PL is all the different fla ours of halva.

News / Coronavirus in Poland - part 2 [599]

Those three things have stronger links to lifestyle, yet few people turn down a pie or a box of chocolates.

News / Coronavirus in Poland - part 2 [599]


I remember that outbreak in South Wales with the children dying. All due to 'vaccine hesitancy' caused by people who read rubbish on the internet and believed it.

The sort of people who spread that rubbish should be ashamed of themselves, however I suspect some of them have very little sense of shame and not much in the way of a conscience. And those beliefs always come as part of a package, usually with anti-fluoridisation nonsense too.

Life / What gifts to take? Presents customs in Poland. [173]


I wish it hadn't been mentioned since I can't get it here and have been thinking about it ever since.....


Oh God....

Life / Poland Is A Gem In Europe [71]


And capitalists together with their conservative stooges absolutely love that because people have so many payments to make that they can't afford to go on strike or walk out of a job.

Life / Poland Is A Gem In Europe [71]


I see that all the time.


Hehe, true. My two closest friends for decades in PL are actually both from the city. Both "generational Warsaw" (i.e. their families are from there rather than coming to the city after WWII) and they are both very down to earth. Other people I know tend to come from villages or small towns, have good jobs in the capital and are under some social and cultural pressure to succeed and have the visible trappings of success. None are crazily materialistic like some of the people you see out and about or for that matter some of my neighbours who are all rich, very rich or extremely rich and like to show that.


What gets me sometimes is how people on very modest incomes are absolutely stretched for credit. I see that in the U.K. too. A certain type who have to have the particular type of furniture or the holidays in Dubai or the fancy car and pay most of their salaries on that.

Life / Poland Is A Gem In Europe [71]


Perhaps that's part of it, though most people I know aren't from there and aren't korpo people or all of them particularly middle class.But yes, there's a sort of materialism there, the newest phone, fancy holidays etc.

I do remember once in Chrzanów (I took a photo and wish I still had it) seeing a door at the back of a building with a sign saying "Kedyt dla nierzetelnych". The same sort of things exist almost everywhere but in this case I liked how it was phrased.

Life / Poland Is A Gem In Europe [71]


I live in Poland too, and I've seen quite a few people palpably overstretch themselves with consumer credit. Sometimes from very dodgy credit providers.

And of course mortgages tend to be shorter in length than many other countries, and there's a relatively high level of real estate inheritance.

Life / Poland Is A Gem In Europe [71]


I'd be wary about the stats. There are a lot of smaller and less reputable credit providers. I doubt they're included.

There's also things like mortgage length to take into consideration.

Life / What gifts to take? Presents customs in Poland. [173]


I forgot that.

Marzipan is one of m6 favourite things.