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Warsaw Rising 1944 - National Disaster or Triumph of Spirit ?


Novichok  5 | 8185
8 Jul 2024   #421
Quoting from

britannica.com/event/Warsaw-Uprising

Warsaw Uprising
Polish history

Warsaw Uprising, (August-October 1944), insurrection in Warsaw during World War II by which Poles unsuccessfully tried to oust the German army and seize control of the city before it was occupied by the advancing Soviet army. The uprising's failure allowed the pro-Soviet Polish administration, rather than the Polish government-in-exile in London, to gain control of Poland.


So even Britannica says "rising" is wrong and used "uprising". Duh!!!

I win.
OP pawian  221 | 25643
8 Jul 2024   #422
Rising, darling. :):):) The case is closed.

Now I am going to talk about books about the Rising which I have read since childhood. E.g, in late 1970s I read a book from my school library about a teenage boy who grows up in occupied Warsaw and eventually takes part in the Rising.
I always loved the title and the cover of the book:
Warning! Freckled Boy!


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Novichok  5 | 8185
8 Jul 2024   #423
Rising, darling. :):):) The case is closed.

Yes, it is...you lose...

britannica.com/event/Warsaw-Uprising

Warsaw Uprising
Polish history

Warsaw Uprising, (August-October 1944), insurrection in Warsaw during World War II by which Poles unsuccessfully tried to oust the German army and seize control of the city before it was occupied by the advancing Soviet army. The uprising's failure allowed the pro-Soviet Polish administration, rather than the Polish government-in-exile in London, to gain control of Poland.

jon357  73 | 23221
8 Jul 2024   #424
Though not in American

I'm sure, however in England we like the language so much, we named our country after it.

In English, it's a synonym of insurrection or rebellion. One rider though is that it tends to be used for an insurrection in a particular region. That would fit since we're talking about Warsaw, however yes, Uprising is correct. Nobody uses rising in relation to the Warsaw Uprising.
OP pawian  221 | 25643
8 Jul 2024   #425
Yes, it is..

Rising, still. :):):)

Nobody uses rising

BS. Stop spreading false info like 3 other mental losers. Do you want to jon them?? hahaha You have a chance now.
Check below.

books about the Rising

A thick book by Norman Davies called Powstanie 44 in the Polish edition and Rising 44 in English. I bought and read it immediately after the publication appeared. Gargantuan job - to write it and then read it whole. :):):)


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jon357  73 | 23221
8 Jul 2024   #426
It's still called the Warsaw Uprising...

Why try to change its name in a language that isn't yours?
OP pawian  221 | 25643
8 Jul 2024   #427
So you want to jon 3 imbeciles. Very well! You will be treated accordingly. The 4th loser. Ha!!!
jon357  73 | 23221
8 Jul 2024   #428
You're still wrong.

Have you been imbibing strong drink?
Miloslaw  21 | 5099
8 Jul 2024   #429
Norman Davies
probably the best historian for Polish history of all time.
mafketis  38 | 11076
8 Jul 2024   #430
It's still called the Warsaw Uprising...

Like I said.... on the internet Uprising is used about 4 times as often as Rising... and the trend is clearly toward Uprising. Rising is still acceptable for those who really, really prefer it (or don't mind sounding a bit old fashioned) but there's no need to insult those that prefer the more common name.
OP pawian  221 | 25643
8 Jul 2024   #431
You're

Darling, check the cover of Davies` book and then check what falsity you tried to peddle here namely nobody uses rising. hahaha Why are you so stupid? :):):

Like I said

Another imbecile has come for the rescue. AmaSSing!
AntV  3 | 693
8 Jul 2024   #432
I've always heard Warsaw Uprising.

Both are correct, but uprising is more impactful, IMO.

What is it called in Polish and how is it transliterated from Polish to English?
jon357  73 | 23221
8 Jul 2024   #433
Darling, check the cover of Davies` book

I did. You do realise that's a book title...

Why are you so stupid?

You should ask yourself that question; an ethanol-induced stupor is never a good look.
mafketis  38 | 11076
8 Jul 2024   #434
uprising is more impactful

Exactly. Uprising emphasizes the heroic aspect, while 'rising'.... doesn't. it's just.... meh.
AntV  3 | 693
8 Jul 2024   #435
@mafketis

Yeah, you can rise from a sleep. But, to uprise connotes a revolt, a standing up against something...like you said, a certain heroism.
Torq  8 | 955
8 Jul 2024   #436
OK, Pawian, it looks like it's just you and me against a horde of native speakers - time to surrender with honour methinks. ;)
OP pawian  221 | 25643
8 Jul 2024   #437
I find it most amaSSing how forum imbeciles suddenly feel bothered by the word Rising 13 years after the thread was started. Why are so many of our posters so stupid??? :(:(:(

Hey, imbeciles, if you are so bored in life, why don`t you find yourself a nice doggie and let him do what you dream of. Simply speaking, DFY and your stalinist grandpas, too!! Ha!!

against a horde

Yes, they are like a horde of barbaric Russians so I will never surrender!
AntV  3 | 693
8 Jul 2024   #438
@Torq

😀. What is it called in Polish and how wouldvyou transliterate it?

feel bothered by the word Rising

Not bothered just measuring the efficacy of a term.

Again, you can you use both, but Uprising carries a stronger connotation of defiance
Torq  8 | 955
8 Jul 2024   #439
@AntV

'Powstanie' - I mentioned it in #420. Anyways, I surrender. If Pawian wants to play Hubal and keep fighting, very well but I'm out. ;)
OP pawian  221 | 25643
8 Jul 2024   #440
I'm out.

OK. :):): I can toss those imbeciles in the air like 4 rag dolls at a time without problem so relax.
Alien  24 | 5881
8 Jul 2024   #441
so I will never surrender

Baboon Uprising (or Rising)
AntV  3 | 693
8 Jul 2024   #442
Powstanie' - I mentioned it in #420

Picked up the thread at 421. I really don't do forums all that well, I need to get more back story. 😄
mafketis  38 | 11076
8 Jul 2024   #443
r. If Pawian wants to play Hubal and keep fighting

Why does he want to fight? That's not normal....
OP pawian  221 | 25643
8 Jul 2024   #444
Uprising carries a stronger

So strong that Davies used Rising instead, hahaha

Baboon

Those 4 azholes unnerved me. I have been so good since Easter and now I had to break my self imposed decency and call them imbeciles and azholes. But Warsaw Rising is worth it .

not normal.

You aren`t normal. In one thread you lash at Russians, while here you act in the same barbaric way. Kto z kim przestaje, takim siÄ™ staje! DFY and your stalinist grandpa, too!~
mafketis  38 | 11076
8 Jul 2024   #445
your stalinist grandpa

take a chill pill... call it whatever you want but don't insult those with different taste...

why are so many people here unable to disagree in a cordial fashion?

checking this forum is often like stepping into a pen full of rabid ducks....
OP pawian  221 | 25643
8 Jul 2024   #446
unable to disagree in a cordial fashion?

Hypo, are you cordial when you lash out at imperial Russians?? You act in the same way as barbarians so you get the same treatment. Why are you whining???

a pen full of rabid ducks...

I hope you cvnt yourself in. Or you are troubled with amnesia??? ):):)
Barney  18 | 1673
8 Jul 2024   #447
Both are correct, but uprising is more impactful, IMO.

Not sure, to me rising is a national thing against foreign domination where as uprising, for me anyway, indicates throwing off domestic oppression.


AntV  3 | 693
8 Jul 2024   #448
So strong that Davies used Rising instead

That's the thing, maybe he is using the title to indicate a different perspective of the Warsaw uprising.

Not sure, to me rising is a national thing against foreign domination where as uprising, for me anyway, indicates throwing off domestic oppression

Hmmm, interesting. I guess it comes down to perspectives.

According to Webster's both are usable and correct.

why are so many people here unable to disagree in a cordial fashion

Very good question. If we're looking to find the truth or accuracy seems we should be cordial.
Novichok  5 | 8185
8 Jul 2024   #449
Yes, they are like a horde of barbaric Russians so I will never surrender!

Azholes like you cost Poland 200,000 dead - just so that they can play stupid games with the Red Army. Well, the Red Army was red but it was not stupid so AK lost.

My bet is that those 20,000 Polish officers were also playing stupid games with the USSR before they were executed by the NKVD.

If they did we will never know because the Polish government will never allow this kind of info out into the open. Too many would have a heart attack...
Barney  18 | 1673
8 Jul 2024   #450
guess it comes down to perspectives.

We never use uprising or at least I don't recall any.


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