Warsaw Rising 1944 - National Disaster or Triumph of Spirit ?

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britannica.com/event/Warsaw-Uprising

Warsaw Uprising
Polish history

Warsaw Uprising, (August-October 1944), insurrection in Warsaw during World War II by which Poles unsuccessfully tried to oust the German army and seize control of the city before it was occupied by the advancing Soviet army. The uprising's failure allowed the pro-Soviet Polish administration, rather than the Polish government-in-exile in London, to gain control of Poland.

So even Britannica says "rising" is wrong and used "uprising". Duh!!!

I win.

Rising, darling. :):):) The case is closed.

Now I am going to talk about books about the Rising which I have read since childhood. E.g, in late 1970s I read a book from my school library about a teenage boy who grows up in occupied Warsaw and eventually takes part in the Rising.
I always loved the title and the cover of the book:
Warning! Freckled Boy!

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Yes, it is...you lose...

britannica.com/event/Warsaw-Uprising

Warsaw Uprising
Polish history

Warsaw Uprising, (August-October 1944), insurrection in Warsaw during World War II by which Poles unsuccessfully tried to oust the German army and seize control of the city before it was occupied by the advancing Soviet army. The uprising's failure allowed the pro-Soviet Polish administration, rather than the Polish government-in-exile in London, to gain control of Poland.

I'm sure, however in England we like the language so much, we named our country after it.

In English, it's a synonym of insurrection or rebellion. One rider though is that it tends to be used for an insurrection in a particular region. That would fit since we're talking about Warsaw, however yes, Uprising is correct. Nobody uses rising in relation to the Warsaw Uprising.

Rising, still. :):):)


BS. Stop spreading false info like 3 other mental losers. Do you want to jon them?? hahaha You have a chance now.
Check below.


A thick book by Norman Davies called Powstanie 44 in the Polish edition and Rising 44 in English. I bought and read it immediately after the publication appeared. Gargantuan job - to write it and then read it whole. :):):)

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It's still called the Warsaw Uprising...

Why try to change its name in a language that isn't yours?

So you want to jon 3 imbeciles. Very well! You will be treated accordingly. The 4th loser. Ha!!!

You're still wrong.

Have you been imbibing strong drink?

probably the best historian for Polish history of all time.

Like I said.... on the internet Uprising is used about 4 times as often as Rising... and the trend is clearly toward Uprising. Rising is still acceptable for those who really, really prefer it (or don't mind sounding a bit old fashioned) but there's no need to insult those that prefer the more common name.

Darling, check the cover of Davies` book and then check what falsity you tried to peddle here namely nobody uses rising. hahaha Why are you so stupid? :):):


Another imbecile has come for the rescue. AmaSSing!

I've always heard Warsaw Uprising.

Both are correct, but uprising is more impactful, IMO.

What is it called in Polish and how is it transliterated from Polish to English?

I did. You do realise that's a book title...


You should ask yourself that question; an ethanol-induced stupor is never a good look.

Exactly. Uprising emphasizes the heroic aspect, while 'rising'.... doesn't. it's just.... meh.

@mafketis

Yeah, you can rise from a sleep. But, to uprise connotes a revolt, a standing up against something...like you said, a certain heroism.

OK, Pawian, it looks like it's just you and me against a horde of native speakers - time to surrender with honour methinks. ;)

I find it most amaSSing how forum imbeciles suddenly feel bothered by the word Rising 13 years after the thread was started. Why are so many of our posters so stupid??? :(:(:(

Hey, imbeciles, if you are so bored in life, why don`t you find yourself a nice doggie and let him do what you dream of. Simply speaking, DFY and your stalinist grandpas, too!! Ha!!


Yes, they are like a horde of barbaric Russians so I will never surrender!

@Torq

😀. What is it called in Polish and how wouldvyou transliterate it?


Not bothered just measuring the efficacy of a term.

Again, you can you use both, but Uprising carries a stronger connotation of defiance

@AntV

'Powstanie' - I mentioned it in #420. Anyways, I surrender. If Pawian wants to play Hubal and keep fighting, very well but I'm out. ;)

OK. :):): I can toss those imbeciles in the air like 4 rag dolls at a time without problem so relax.

Baboon Uprising (or Rising)

Picked up the thread at 421. I really don't do forums all that well, I need to get more back story. 😄

Why does he want to fight? That's not normal....

So strong that Davies used Rising instead, hahaha


Those 4 azholes unnerved me. I have been so good since Easter and now I had to break my self imposed decency and call them imbeciles and azholes. But Warsaw Rising is worth it .


You aren`t normal. In one thread you lash at Russians, while here you act in the same barbaric way. Kto z kim przestaje, takim się staje! DFY and your stalinist grandpa, too!~

take a chill pill... call it whatever you want but don't insult those with different taste...

why are so many people here unable to disagree in a cordial fashion?

checking this forum is often like stepping into a pen full of rabid ducks....

Hypo, are you cordial when you lash out at imperial Russians?? You act in the same way as barbarians so you get the same treatment. Why are you whining???


I hope you cvnt yourself in. Or you are troubled with amnesia??? ):):)

Not sure, to me rising is a national thing against foreign domination where as uprising, for me anyway, indicates throwing off domestic oppression.

That's the thing, maybe he is using the title to indicate a different perspective of the Warsaw uprising.


Hmmm, interesting. I guess it comes down to perspectives.

According to Webster's both are usable and correct.


Very good question. If we're looking to find the truth or accuracy seems we should be cordial.

Azholes like you cost Poland 200,000 dead - just so that they can play stupid games with the Red Army. Well, the Red Army was red but it was not stupid so AK lost.

My bet is that those 20,000 Polish officers were also playing stupid games with the USSR before they were executed by the NKVD.

If they did we will never know because the Polish government will never allow this kind of info out into the open. Too many would have a heart attack...

We never use uprising or at least I don't recall any.