Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first

"Liberated" is hardly the term I would use.

And the USA liberated the rest????

Dream on moron,The USA helped but that was all and they wanted payback after the war.... cheap "friends".

Interesting how you never comment on how the Canadians,Aussies,Kiwis, Brits and Indians helped you to beat Japan..... or did you forget about that?

Doctors save lives every day. Should they get paid?

polishforums.com/history/poles-apologise-ukrainians-first-87958/14/#msg2027713

They fought for their own benefit.

The US fought Japan for nothing. Actually, the US got shafted by the Japs later as a "trading partner" after the US told them how to make things.

No, not for nothing, but for they high-quality products "Made in Japan".

Tensions between Poland and Ukraine are once again on the rise... The Wolyn Massacre is a subject that seems to provide infinite grist for the hatred mill.

This past week, Ukrainians have been reacting to different statements coming from Polish state officials. First, Nawrocki's proposed ban on Banderist symbology, and then Kosiniak-Kamysz's threat that Ukraine will never join the EU so long as it doesn't perform full-scale exhumations and proper reburials of the dead.

So, obviously... I go to my favorite Ukrainian website (censor.net), and scour the comments. Today they were interesting. The Ukrainians are adopting a new line of defense against Polish accusations.

Behold, the Top 3 comments on Censor, under an article about Kosiniak-Kamysz's statements:

1) "Tell me WHY MODERN Ukraine should recognize its ephemeral involvement in an interethnic conflict of Polish citizens on its territory at that time?"

2) "Poland has been 'deflated'. Indeed, it didn't last for a very long time. Ukraine is truly surrounded by faggots from all sides, who are ready to suck katsap dick as a first order priority, rather than to help their neighbor in a fight."

3) "Polish nationalists should impose a taboo on national-historical pretensions towards Ukraine - IT IS BLEEDING TODAY, and Poland wants it to also bleed tomorrow? IDIOTS!!! Look for the Kremlin's agents among your leaders."

Source: censor.net/ru/news/3570663/kosinyak-kamysh-prizval-ukrainu-priznat-volynskuyu-tragediyu/sortby/tree/order/desc/page/1#comments

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They aren't.

This is just the normal dialogue between cultures, whipped up by r*SSia.

The silly quotes you print are just extreme stuff from online gobsh1tes, as bad as the silliest stuff here or worse. They are irrelevant.

Now run along and see about your turd hole of a country returning some of the thousands of children you kidnapped.

Uhhhmm, they most certainly are.

Poland has all but ceased help to Ukraine. Now, even the refugee benefits are on the chopping block.

One, little, tiny, illustration of how Polish-Ukrainian relations have gone downhill, is the radicalization of a Twitter account called "War Vehicle Tracker".

This guy has spent the past three years tracking vehicle losses for both sides. The databases he has contributed to, have been used as sources by the NYTimes, FT, WSJ, and others. He has hosted literally DOZENS of fundraisers for troops in Ukraine, that included drone purchases, excavators, PPE, etc.

Now this guy has turned into a Roman Dmowski, after 3 years of experiencing Ukrainian ingratitude. His posts yesterday:

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They aren't.

You're just going on about normal bickering. Screenshots of online wibble from the sort of person who starts their message with "dude" and says "stfu" and shold probably get some fresh air and exercise.

Scientologists do that too, saying "ooh, look at this" as if it was something out of the ordinary.

Just rather cackhanded PR segmentng.

People should remember that the pariah state r*SSia spends more that twice as much per year on online propaganda as we do on NHS England.

Ok Boomer.


lol, it's not PR segmenting. All the Ukrs, Brits, Germans, and Americans of Twitter are piling onto the Poles that dare make a peep in support of Nawrocki or Kominiak-Kamysz.

These people were not sophisticated to begin with, seeing as they all adopted an avatar of a Shiba Inu dog as their mascot. They see the world in black and white - elf good, orc bad.

So when someone within their ranks begins to make questioning noises regarding Ukraine's angelic status, they all go after them like a pack of dogs.

I've seen with my own eyes, how these Uber Ukraine supporters, scare off people that live in neighboring countries (Romania, Poland, Hungary, Slovakia) from supporting Ukraine.

They make no allowance for nuance, and treat anybody that questions Ukraine's actions as a Kremlin agent or even a fascist.

Posts like the one below, for example:

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You're out by quite a few years.


It really is.


So normal.


And they whup orc ass daily.

And raise quite a bit of cash for drones, quite apart from those of us with commercial 3d printers in our spare rooms.

So when are your cowardly leaders going to return the children they kidnapped?

I'd argue they did more harm than good to Ukraine.

They drown out the voices of pragmatists that want Ukraine to secure a realistic settlement. They make anybody speaking out for peace feel like a quisling, whereas they themselves propose no real path to securing a victory.

Hiding behind the shoulders of the Ukrainian army, they taunt the Russians. Meanwhile, real Russian soldiers and real Ukrainian soldiers only speak about each other in terms of respect, in this third year of the war. Obviously there is hate, but there is almost no one left who makes fun of "mobiks" or "slaves".

These Shiba Inu dogs, meanwhile, are spiraling into ever more grotesque forms of xenophobia. Recently, they were celebrating the anniversary of the death of Daria Dugina. Enough said.

It makes little difference however if anything they do a great deal of good by mocking the relentless orc propaganda.


Don't dish it out if you can't take it.


The world is better without that creature.

Ok, ok... From this moment I finally dont feel sorry about Goat Hills incident, and will accept v2.0, if any, as act of cleanising of the world.

Did you ever?

The soul that sinneth, it shall die.
The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father,
neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Your hatred of Russians, has disconnected you from humanity's core principles.

They all do.


Get a grip on yourself and stop trying to excuse atrocities and the pondlife who condone them

The EU and UK could take advantage of the migrant situation - serve 2-3 years in a military (or train to become a military asset) in return for a citizenship or a permanent residences status. But I'm not sure - maybe the EU/UK has enough national soldiers; if so, the plan wouldn't work.

...made you a brainless moron...

I couldn't resist the redundancy.


Why would the UK need soldiers? To assist dinghy passengers as they land...wet an hungry?

Not a tuall6 relevant to Polish-Ukrainian relations.

You can find all kinds of Twitter. It's irrelevant; the point is that Ukrainian politicians are incompetent. They can't handle such an easy job as a relationship with Poland. Nawrocki has done something that should have been done from the start.

Because they are Papuans, with no history of statehood or experience at diplomacy.

They behave as any other Cargo Cult (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult).

They believe that if they cast the right incantations, march in the correct formations, and provide the necessary sacrifices - then the white man from the sky will come and drop more Euros and more Dollars.

When they do everything correctly (to their mind), and the White Man is still upset - they don't understand why.

"Did we not say we are Atlanticists?"

"Did we not confirm our belief in Western liberal democracy?"

"Did we not pray to the Gods of 'Strong Institutions' and 'Checks and Balances'?"

"Did we not profess our hatred of Russians and Chinese, from the mountains, and the valleys, and from the depths of the sea?"

"Did we not host ten million national prayer breakfasts where we showed we are all good Christians?"

They don't understand why... after all this... somebody would keep bringing up awkward questions about massacres and missing money and... about a realistic plan for victory.

The current generation of Ukrainian leadership all grew up on Soros grants, British Council grants, USAID grants, and various "developmental workshops" in places like Princeton and Oxford.

Pygmies. Hobbits. Papuans.

In contrast - Russia has a 1,200 year history of developing independent policy - without looking into the White Man's mouth for the next morsel.

And we love them for that.

And it still hasn't developed yet. 😬

May God preserve us from ever reaching your levels of development.

God has heard you. 🤷‍♂️

I hope so.

When Poles and Germans and French go extinct - because their amazing development gave them an allergy to having children - I hope Russians will still be around because we were more like Nigerians and Tajiks.

Unfortunately, I think you are wrong, and we are still headed for your wonderful level of development that will send us all the way of the dinosaurs.

Migrants will work for us.

Who's us? Are you gonna live forever?

I'd love to, but at least I'd like some retirement, considering how long I've been paying contributions.

Hahahaha! *cough cough* Ahahahahahahahahaha! *catches breath* Muwahahahahahahahahaha!