1 yes 2 yes probably but Russias weak economy is caused by its own choices 3 its a guess 4 russia's 5 nothing to do with refugees - more the peaceful alliance that has lasted imperfectly since 1945 5 dont complain - you earn good money for that
That's too many questions for me, Rich, let's take each one at a time, shall we?
OK. However, I would like to get the answers from mafketis as he is the one who made the claims. Clearly, I don't mind if you want to do the dirty work for him.
Frankly, I don't expect any coming my way soon. What I do know is that many posters here are shallow ("Russia is evil") and throw meaningless phrases and rhetorical questions around to actually end a conversation. My goal is to expose this kind of infantile "hit-and-run" emptiness for what it is. I learned from my previous debates that the best way to deal with such people is to ask questions. Just as is done during trials. Liberals and those acting on emotions do not last past a couple of well phrased questions. All they want is throw some meaningless mud around and shut the opposition up.
1 yes
"yes" is in response to the question: Are they (Russia) imploying illegal means?
Whose laws did they break? Can you cite a couple of the offenses against Western Europe? Are there any pending criminal trials against the Russians filed by any Western Europe country? Were the events in Crimea that resulted in Crimea joining Russia in violation of international laws? If so, was Russia sued?
God knows that we Slavs were and are not much rewarded for stubbornly remain Slavic (ie Sarmatic). But, one of things that we got as gift from God is that we have Russia as world superpower. Hopefully also, finally, normal and sane Russia.
You count something that doesn't exist.... Russia has never done anything to benefit Poland. That's an objective fact.
Germany murdered or killed 6,000,000 Poles
And Polish people have always been free to talk about, whereas during the PRL they were not free to talk about predations from Russia. The stifling of free expression made the resentment greater than it might have been had they been able to talk about Russian theft of Polish land, or Katyn, or Russian treachery during the Warsaw Uprising etc etc etc
So given the hundreds of years of history there's no need for Polish people to like or trust any Russian government. That's what.
Poland and Russia are not going to be allies unless Russia drastically changes and starts to become a civilized, civil society (like Germany has done).
That's a nuance that Rysiek just can't get, all he can do is barge into rooms and shout questions at people. So his limited emotional repertoire gets limited and 'doesn't trust' is conflated with 'hates'.
Actually, you would all come back to yourself. To us, Serbians. I see that as only way. What else you can do? Follow path of western Europe? Remain as you are? Become even worse then western Europe, compete with them in stupidity? No, you must come to yourself.
We are afraid because Russia killed half of those 6,000,000.........
Polish war casualties are beyond any dispute 6 million. Does it mean that the Germans killed the other half, or 3 million? The numbers commonly cited are: Germans - 6 million, Soviets - 150,000. That 150,000 is huge, but not even close to 6 million.
I agree with those who would today trust Germany more than Russia, but not because Germany repented and Russia is "evil". It's because I would trust the American leash Germany is still on. Personally, even the sound of the German language is so totally repulsive that I refused an offer to work there for a couple of months before my immigration to the US in 1967.
My point exactly. Poland's love affair with EU and, specifically, with Germany is prostitution, pure and simple. They send Poland money and Poland pinches its nose and let them buy out whatever they want. In addition, Poland is permitted to off-load its unemployed. That leaves Poland little wiggle room. Luckily, Poland is still willing to use its middle finger when the subject of refugees, the judiciary, and "democracy" comes up.
The question is how long can Poland endure the pressure. In my opinon, this is where a reasonably good relationship with Russia can be helpful as a counterweight.
Germany - master Poland - servant Auschwitz - a reminder that master used to gas and incinerate servant Refugees - poison master wants servant to swallow and ask for more
Russia doesn't do "reasonably good relationships" it does "Master and servant"
What you talking about? Hungary have perfect relationship with Russia. It is so because Hungary have reasonable policy. Neither bow to EU (ie Germany), neither to Russia but seek partnership. Russia offering partnership and Germany dictate. Ask Hungarians.
refused an offer to work there for a couple of months before my immigration to the US in 1967
What a bull$hit you are talking. In fact, you never immigrated to the US in 1967 and I doubt if you were born at that time. The mods tolerating you on the PF is a total disaster. Anyway, mods tolerating you on the PF just show to what low levels the PF has been brought to. I am sure the forum should be closed down for good now.
In fact, you never immigrated to the US in 1967 and I doubt if you were born at that time
If I were to send copies of the relevant documents to the administrator and he then would tell you that you are wrong, would you STFU, or are you going to say that (1) the docs are fake, or (2) that I bribed the administrator or (3) something else?
Please read my last post in: Poland - never again. It was about people like you.
I completely agree with Mafketis and Ziemowit. Rysiu is either a Russian Troll or someone with serious mental problems. Crow is Crow,but some advice mate,don't get too friendly with Rysiu because you will lose what little respect you have on this forum. And I repeat what others have said. Poles don't hate Russians,they don't trust their rulers.Nothing has changed there for hundreds of years. Germans have never been as great a threat as Russians to Poland,except in WW2. Contrast Germany's relationship with Poland with Russia's since 1945 and that will tell you all you need to know.
