Need Help Identifying This Uniform

I have been stuck on this uniform for years.I have looked through military uniform books and online, but haven't seen another uniform like this. The man seated was my great-great grandfather. This photo was taken around 1904-1905. For starters, this uniform doesn't have the zig-zag trim on the collar that I have seen in so many photos of Polish military men. Is it even a Polish uniform? He was from the Russian occupied area of Poland. I also find it interesting that he is holding the jacket closed as though it doesn't fit. If that's the case, that tells me that he was no longer in the military when the photo was taken. In looking at everyone in the photo, it looks to me as though they had means.

Any help is appreciated. I hate assuming everything.

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On a question whether it is a Polish uniform or not, you have answered yourself - Russia occupied Poland. If there is no Polish army, there is no Polish uniform.

It doesn't look like any Russian military uniform either, hence the question.

isnt tis 19 century russian cape? smthing like this top left here: uk.pinterest.com/pin/485825878534774512/

Why not? By the way, are you 100% sure it is military uniform?

Funny that you mention that. My first thought was that the image depicts a postman.

Veles--No, I am NOT certain it is a military uniform. I was told he HAD been in the military, but I was also told that we come from French Royalty, and that one of my great greats was a farrier for a Czar. I have yet to prove any of these things. That's why I posted it on this site.

Back then every man was in a military - good old times.

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What uniform is he wearing?

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@Bartkowiak
I'd be guessing this man wears a uniform of the Border Protection Corps (Korpus Ochrony Pogranicza). Are you able to say in which year this photo was taken?

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What period is this uniform?

I have a relative in what is supposed to be a Polish military uniform. Can anyone determine what period it's from? My assumption is WWI or WWII. Also, is he a soldier or an officer? The image is the front of a postcard. The back includes what I think is his name, but it's not the name we associate with this relative. Can anyone translate it into English?

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Dude it is in English.
Above that there is Motszy which could be a surname - unlike but possible as it would be a very strange and unique surname. It could be badly spelled mlodszy i.e younger, junior.

so it could read:
Younger Wladyslaw ( a name read like Vladislav) or Wladislaw Junior.
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His uniform it is uniform the Polish Army dating 1918-1922. Cavalry uniform of an officer (but the last one is a guess, an educated guess)

Assume again... :)

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Military Uniform

Hi -

Found this photo in an old family album and am hoping someone can help confirm it is a Polish military uniform, when this uniform would've been worn and any details about the markings/lines on the collar of the uniform.

Would appreciate any help.

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Those markings suggest the uniform of interwar period: 1918-1939.

See it here:
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barwy_broni_i_s%C5%82u%C5%BCb_Wojska_Polskiego_II_RP

Particular kinds of troops had different markings, e,.g, artillery used green. The markings in the picture are darker than the uniform, so we can presume they are black, it may suggest sappers, among others.

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It is - standard 1920-1936.

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WW2 Uniform Identification

Hello, if anyone could help me identify what uniform the men in this photo are wearing (my grandfather is in this photo), I'd really appreciate it. Although there aren't many clues to help identify specifics, the cap badge of the man standing front-centre is visible, albeit very blurry. Thank you in advance.

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Too blurry, I am afraid. You need a real expert to identify it, sorry.

@pawian
Yes, unfortunately it would only allow me to attach a 150KB file; the original picture is sharper. I was told by family that my grandad was at Monte Cassino, but I can't find any records for him. As for an expert - do you have any advice as to who I could ask about it? I'm trying to confirm my Polish citizenship, but the Provincial Office are requesting military documents, despite the other documents I've submitted.

You need to show it on another Polish forum which deals with military topics only. There are many. E..g, dws.org.pl/

@pawian
Much appreciated, Pawian.