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Where is Helena Wolińska-Brus buried?


RealPole
11 Jun 2012 #1
Does anyone know the exact location?

Due to the nature her crimes, she was apparently buried at a secret location in England.
...where is her husband buried? Possibly she is nearby?

It's a site that should be known to all true Poles so we can visit and leave tokens of
our appreciation.
delphiandomine 86 | 18,271
11 Jun 2012 #2
It's a site that should be known to all true Poles so we can visit and leave tokens of
our appreciation.

Yes, because desecrating the graves of the dead is exactly what grown up, mature people do.
Harry
11 Jun 2012 #4
Don't forget to spray a star of David on her tomb, that's the ultimate insult for a Pole, right?
pawian 175 | 13,563
12 Jun 2012 #5
Don`t be so bossy. If you need, go and spray the star yourself. :):):):)

As to me, a little red paint will suffice. Just symbolically. For the sake of future generations. :):):)

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jon357 63 | 15,378
12 Jun 2012 #6
Don't forget to write in Polish, just so everyone knows who goes round desecrating cemeteries.
Ironside 49 | 10,691
12 Jun 2012 #7
who goes round desecrating cemeteries.

wtf? you change your mind like a woman
Harry
12 Jun 2012 #8
Don't forget to write in Polish, just so everyone knows who goes round desecrating cemeteries.

Would it be the same nation which did this:

/PolandHolocaustMemorialVandalism.jpg - Jedwabne memorial

this

Plaszow concentration camp memorial in Poland

etc, etc, etc?
pawian 175 | 13,563
12 Jun 2012 #9
Would it be the same nation which did this:

Did anyone tell you you behave like a demagogue? :):):)

I am talking about spraying a little red paint on the stone as a symbol of blood of innocent victims who perished after her sentences. I also provided a visual representation of how it is done in Warsaw.

And you are showing us stupid pictures with swastikas.

Are you crazy? :):):):)
Harry
12 Jun 2012 #10
Are you crazy? :):):):)

Desecrating graves is wrong. You are either a supporter of that statement or a supporter of the people who paint swastikas on graves.
jon357 63 | 15,378
12 Jun 2012 #11
wtf? you change your mind like a woman

Please expand by providing examples of cemeteries, graves or any other monuments I have suggested desecrating.
pawian 175 | 13,563
12 Jun 2012 #12
Desecrating graves is wrong.

Yes! But sometimes there is no choice.... :):):):):)

or a supporter of the people who paint swastikas on graves.

Still a demagogue?? :):):):)

Suppose, you support gay liberation movement. Does it make you gay automatically ?:):):):)

Please expand by providing examples of cemeteries, graves or any other monuments I have suggested desecrating.

:):):):):):)
Harry
12 Jun 2012 #13
But sometimes there is no choice.... :):):):):)

Which is no doubt precisely what the Nazis you clearly support (on at least this subject) also say to justify their desecrating Jewish graves.
pawian 175 | 13,563
12 Jun 2012 #14
You are getting more and more excited in this thread. In your next post you will accuse me that I personally led Jews to gas chambers. :):):):)

Harry, relax!

You are not able to change my opinion which I expressed in the thread:
polishforums.com/history-poland-34/old-communist-leaders-still-buried-merit-cemetery-powazki-51078/

And it has nothing to do with Jews. I don`t care that Wolińska was Jewish. She was a filthy communist court murderer, that`s all, who never was held responsible for her crimes.
Harry
12 Jun 2012 #15
You are getting more and more excited in this thread.

Scum who desecrate graves are never exciting. But the people who do it are always scum.
jon357 63 | 15,378
12 Jun 2012 #16
And it has nothing to do with Jews. I don`t care that Wolińska was Jewish. She was a filthy communist court murderer, that`s all, who never was held responsible for her crimes.

If she was in the Avenue of the Notables at Powazki there would be a case for moving her to the ordinary section of Powazki provided she had been convicted in a court of law, however as far as I know she isn't buried anywhere special, just in a council cemetery, probably in Oxford, where she lived. interments in the ground are rare in British cities and whether or not they should still be allowed is another matter.
pawian 175 | 13,563
12 Jun 2012 #17
Scum who desecrate graves are never exciting. But the people who do it are always scum.

Yes!!! :):):)

but, alas, relax! :):):) Who`s talking about desecrating?
Harry
12 Jun 2012 #18
Who`s talking about desecrating?

You are.
sofijufka 2 | 191
12 Jun 2012 #19
And it has nothing to do with Jews. I don`t care that Wolińska was Jewish. She was a filthy communist court murderer, that`s all, who never was held responsible for her crimes.

unfortunately - it has. Wolinska claimed, that she was accused of court crime, BECAUSE she was Jewish... And she was as white and innocent as a lily...
Harry
12 Jun 2012 #20
She wasn't as white and innocent as a lily: far from it. However, it is interesting to compare the actions of the Polish government with regard to the prosecutor (i.e. the person who is supposed to present the case for the guilt of the accused) in the Fieldorf case (i.e. hounded into the grave with repeated arrest attempts) and the judge (i.e. the person who was supposed to even-handedly assess the evidence and give a fitting punishment) in that case (i.e. allowed to avoid prosecution via the simple trick of not turning up to the court case for six years).
pawian 175 | 13,563
12 Jun 2012 #21
And without digressions in brackets?

pawian:
Who`s talking about desecrating?

You are.

You are either crazy or you don`t know what you are talking about.

As for me, I am talking about marking the grave of the communist murderer with red paint, nothing else. :):):):):)
Harry
12 Jun 2012 #22
And without digressions in brackets?

The judge who gave the verdict and handed down the sentence was allowed to live out her days in peace in Warsaw. No attempt was made to arrest her and detain her. However, the prosecutor was the subject of repeated attempts to have her arrested and detained. Guess which one was Jewish.

I am talking about marking the grave of the communist murderer with red paint, nothing else.

Painting a certain colour of paint on such a grave is desecrating it, just painting a certain shape (such as a swastika) on a Jewish grave is.
pawian 175 | 13,563
12 Jun 2012 #23
Painting a certain colour of paint on such a grave is desecrating it, just painting a certain shape (such as a swastika) on a Jewish grave is.

I wish you were always so meticulous in PF. :):):)

However, you aren`t.

That is why you didn`t convince me.

I won`t instigate anyone to go there and spray the grave. I really don`t care.

But when it happens, I won`t express my regret, just like I didn`t when Bierut`s tombstone was painted red in Warsaw.
Neptune123 - | 3
13 Jun 2012 #24
She's buried in England. You can likely find the site with ease if you look. Make sure you spray paint Jerzy Nowak, bag of moose dung, at the same time; in the years 1970-1976, he was registered as a kontakt operacyjny of Służba Bezpieczeństwa. Those communist pigs were awful. His "Excellency" Wojciech Witold Jaruzelski was a horrific commie pig.
pawian 175 | 13,563
13 Jun 2012 #25
She's buried in England.

but is burning in Hell... :):):):)
jon357 63 | 15,378
13 Jun 2012 #26
And of course if anyone actually does vandalise public property, your IP address is a matter of record. And now internet trolling is illegal, regardless of the jurisdiction the offender lives in.
Neptune123 - | 3
13 Jun 2012 #27
The other item to recall is that while Stalin was an absolute monster, as was Mao, the alternative was worse. Polish collaboration with Nazis was so low was because your ancestors knew very well that the intent was to kill every Pole not needed for slavery. In fact, a very good argument can be made that the Holocaust began with the Battle of Warsaw, whence about 50,000 Polish Catholic civilians were murdered on a genetic basis, versus only about 5,000 Polish Jews. Had it not been for the Red Army, awful as that was, you would almost certainly not be here. An example of what the fiends had in mind with respect to Slavic peoples, which includes you:

news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1893&dat=19460107&id=_RIpAAAAIBAJ&sjid= U9cEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3769,5346220

Yes. That's right, 30,000,000 Slavic deaths. And that was just the beginning. The Imperial Japanese had similarly wondrous plans for Asia.
Jew hatred is one thing. Mass murder is another. No matter how much Poles dislike Jews & vice versa, no one with brains thinks Polish Catholics responsible for death camps they knew were to be used for them. And yes, that was a horrible gaffe on the part of President Obama.
pawian 175 | 13,563
13 Jun 2012 #28
And of course if anyone actually does vandalise public property, your IP address is a matter of record. And now internet trolling is illegal, regardless of the jurisdiction the offender lives in.

Jon, you still have about 8 minutes to improve your post. :):):):):)
delphiandomine 86 | 18,271
13 Jun 2012 #29
His "Excellency" Wojciech Witold Jaruzelski was a horrific commie pig.

And yet without him, the Autumn of Nations may never happen.

Usually the ones shouting loudest about such people were the ones who did the least opposing.

And now internet trolling is illegal, regardless of the jurisdiction the offender lives in.

Indeed, I wouldn't be too quick to go around talking about defacing graves, especially now that the English legal system clearly views the internet as not anonymous.

The Admin of this site has always made it clear that he'll hand over IP addresses if required to do so, as well.
pawian 175 | 13,563
13 Jun 2012 #30
Indeed, I wouldn't be too quick to go around talking about defacing graves, especially now that the English legal system clearly views the internet as not anonymous. The Admin of this site has always made it clear that he'll hand over IP addresses if required to do so, as well.

I didn`t know England is such a dictatorship that talking about defacing graves is forbidden. Is it really so? :):):):)

If yes, it would be very funny. I thought that English legal system is a serious matter.


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