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History of Europe and the Next Russian Grand Idea


OP Torq  26 | 2137
2 Dec 2025   #31
If he wants a strong and unstoppable Russia - he should listen to people like me.

Indeed, you are a dangerous man. Good oprichniks should be dangerous though. And smart. :)

Belousov as a potential ally

Having Saint Virgin Mary on your side can't hurt, that's for sure.
Bobko  28 | 3029
2 Dec 2025   #32
Good oprichniks should be dangerous though. And smart. :)

It would be my great honor to be an Oprichnik for the "Sun-Like One". But he must trust us for this....

We are better executors of his heavenly will, than his current posse.

No one is questioning he has the mandate, and the power. But... he has to widen the tent and allow others in, to help him achieve his plans.

He cannot afford to be isolated, and cut off from such people.

We accept him, but he has to accept us.
OP Torq  26 | 2137
2 Dec 2025   #33
he has to widen the tent

I couldn't help but imagine Putin sitting in the centre of a huge, lavishly furnished, yurt in the middle of a vast high mountain pasture, and his various people of different ethnicities entering the yurt bringing gifts. He listens to all of them and smiles at his children benevolently. Damn it, I almost want to be one of his Oprichniks too! Almost.
Bobko  28 | 3029
2 Dec 2025   #34
He listens to all of them and smiles at his children benevolently

This is his role.

But he favors the "hard men". Because he has affinity to them, being a KGB colonel himself.

To him we are civilians - naive, idealistic, childish.

Earlier he had the wisdom to allow us oxygen, now he thinks we "get in the way".

Maybe we are not famous fighters, and not good Christians - but we have the interests of Russia at heart as any other man.

To paint us as traitors and "bourgeois" is to reject a huge part of your strength.

We are willing and obedient and we don't need much. Just don't treat us like the relatives visiting from another region.
Novichok  7 | 11606
2 Dec 2025   #35
We all made mistakes...

You two are abusing the word.

A mistake is never intended - even a second before it's made. Rusia is a mistake...ruSSia is not.

If he wants a strong and unstoppable Russia

You just played into the hands of Russia haters and their idiotic claims that Russia wants to expand and swallow at least Eastern Europe. May be more...

The only aggressor on this planet is Western imperialism and NATO.

How many foreign bases does Russia and China have? 1 each?

But he favors the "hard men".

Everybody favors the hard men.

Soft men are useless chicks with dicks. Many are gay.

I like Putin even for the way he walks.
Mr Grunwald  34 | 2263
3 Dec 2025   #36
I am so positively surprised at the amount of ideas for how to make Russia a better country.

It's just the lessons of ww2. A hungry man in a state of starvation, humiliated and without many options is ready to perform despicle things, crime and more open for extreme actions.

By having most or all populations globally fed, clothed and respected. Would potentially reduce the risks of wars, conflicts and increase possibility of peace, trade, manufacturing and stability.

Why do you think western nations are/were so enthusiastic about opening trade? Donations? Charity? Diplomacy? Investments? It wasn't ONLY about influence or as counter measures against the Soviet Union during Cold War. It was seen as pre-emptive defence to lessen the risks of another bloody world war.

My proposal for Russian grand idea:

Art/science focus in close co-operation with Slavic states and Slavic friendly states.

Host and organise non-governmental council with members/representatives from all Slavic states. (Preferably after had been through a IQ test and answering a degree of affiliation towards Russia as a whole).

This council could/would then focus on projects for future Russia to be depicted in films, pictures, paintings, games etc.

Example: Grand Wall of Russia (with a Slavic project of building a massive wall along the entire southern Russian border to rival and surpass maginot line and the Great Wall of China.

Example nr 2: Trans-Siberian Hyper Railway
(A gigantic railroad system from Vladivostok to Smolensk able to send 20 hyper fast modern trains side by side at the same time. Being able to send massive amounts of cargo from Asia to Europe at a low cost and impossible to compete with)

Example 3: Modern settlements, based on flying cars (type Jetson One), AI controlled public transportation and AI labour services within restaurants, AI entrence greeters and more
Novichok  7 | 11606
3 Dec 2025   #37
By having most or all populations globally fed, clothed and respected would potentially reduce the risks of wars,

Just the opposite. Bad guys rob rich guys and banks because that's where the money is.

The US went to Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Irag, Afghanistan, and now to Ukraine using proxies - a nice way of referring to useful idiots - to annoy Putin enough to talk about nukes...

This is what happens when a country is rich enough to grow a tumor aka MICC that has to be fed with wars and body bags with scary regularity.

Was the US ever unclothed, unfed, and disreprected? The US had all of this and some - enough to have thousands of tanks and artillery it knew damn well to be useless and irrelevant to its security.

Or those 10 naval groups ... Why do we need an aircraft carrier and a dozen warships on every damn ocean? We don't, but we have money to burn...
Mr Grunwald  34 | 2263
3 Dec 2025   #38
Bad guys rob rich guys and banks because that's where the money is.

They are fools, currency wether in metal coin, pieces of paper or digital numbers are merely tools to reflect the value and need of a countries workforce, services and goods.

If the overall quality of a country's population declines, so will the currency regardless of the governing class.

Why you also don't understand the necessity of being able to strike (any foe) globally by use of rockets, aircraft carriers or other means. Shows that you do not understand why the meek are to inherit the earth!
Novichok  7 | 11606
3 Dec 2025   #39
he meek are to inherit the earth!

The meek die first. See Jewish Warsaw ghetto.

Israelis took notice and gave Palestinians a very painful lesson after 10/7.

I love the IDF and Mossad. If they were meek, they would dead.

Why you also don't understand the necessity of being able to strike

You want to strike somebody? Go ahead. Don't expect the US to do it for you...

We have no reason to strike anybody. Iran included.
Ironside  53 | 13935
3 Dec 2025   #40
Israelis took notice

And started emulating Nazis. You could be right.
Novichok  7 | 11606
3 Dec 2025   #41
And started emulating Nazis....

...and Americans...who left inedible memories in Jap minds ...to convince them that fvcking with the US is a really stupid idea...

The same with Gazans...Wanna get Gaza even flatter? Elect Hamas again and chant "Death to Israel".

Israelis a funny people...They hate being raped and murdered...
Bobko  28 | 3029
3 Dec 2025   #42
Example: Grand Wall of Russia

Damn... Grunnie - whatchu been smoking?

It's about 500 years too late to be building great walls!

Example nr 2: Trans-Siberian Hyper Railway

Now this is a great idea. If Russians saw Eastern Europeans investing massive amounts of money to upgrade Russian infrastructure (of course not for free, but in exchange for ownership), then this would do more than practically anything else to bring our people closer together.

Before the war our main investors were Germans and Scandinavians. They built massive power plants, and other nice things. It would be nice to see other Easterners do it instead.

Example 3: Modern settlements, based on flying cars (type Jetson One), AI controlled public transportation and AI labour services within restaurants, AI entrence greeters and more

Sounds like some mumbo jumbo the prince of Saudi Arabia or the Sultan of Brunei would do.

All these "future city" projects are money grabs by unscrupulous people.
OP Torq  26 | 2137
3 Dec 2025   #43
All these "future city" projects are money grabs by unscrupulous people.

Akon City, anyone?

bbc.com/news/articles/c8xvrv21drjo
Bobko  28 | 3029
3 Dec 2025   #44
@Torq

I like how Grunnie thinks... always surprising to read his posts.

What did they do to him in Norway, to make him this way?
Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12602
3 Dec 2025   #45
...Gruni is our history expert!

I guess it changes you once you keep studying history...especially when modern events get looking so darn familiar...
OP Torq  26 | 2137
3 Dec 2025   #46
I like how Grunnie thinks...

Same here.

He is PF's one-person think tank!
Ironside  53 | 13935
4 Dec 2025   #47
What did they do to him in Norway, to make him this way?

They have thrown him out into a freezing Arctic night to fend for himself and wander with reindeer and Santa Claus. Such experience gives clarity.
Mr Grunwald  34 | 2263
4 Dec 2025   #48
What did they do to him in Norway

I was simply looking for answers, found wells of knowledge that I wanted to share with everyone around enthusiastically, then only met with hostile and unfriendly reactions, expecting the worst of intentions from me. That gave me more clarity to the human condition to learn not only about past events but, also worst and best sides of humanity! My main sorrow is that the human ego so many times projected upon me quite unfairly and too often has lead me to isolate from other communities. Seeking perspectives and thoughts from a more international community or in Poland. Poland after all is a swamp for anything useful for Poland, Norway and Norwegians are far more sceptical, careful and conservative then it might look like.

Akon City, anyone?

:)

@Ironside
I know you write it in a joking manner, but you are closer to the truth then I would like to admit.


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