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How to stay in USA without getting married?


bartosz  
14 Dec 2006 /  #1
I wanna stay in usa but my papers are out of date. I am trying, asking and it seems like the only way to stay here is to get a wife with usa citizenship. Any other sugestions?
bunnie 2 | 20  
14 Dec 2006 /  #2
I think it all depends on the VISA...my boyfriend went/is going through the same situation. He did go home and is coming back in May. 2 of his friends did win the "lottery" and are now citizens!
OP bartosz  
14 Dec 2006 /  #3
Poland cant do the lottery this year 'couse we got 2 many green cards las year. I cant go back becouse my visa is out of date, so they will not let me come back to usa. So boo.
bunnie 2 | 20  
14 Dec 2006 /  #4
what?

that is confusing to me?
what are you talking about?
shewolf  
14 Dec 2006 /  #5
it seems like the only way to stay here is to get a wife with usa citizenship. Any other sugestions?

bartosz, I'll marry you. :)
OP bartosz  
14 Dec 2006 /  #6
Are u for real?
Eurola 4 | 1,906  
14 Dec 2006 /  #7
Bartosz, there are lots of women who posted adds on this website. Try it. You may fall in love, get married and live happily ever after.

monitorpl.com
Jim  
14 Dec 2006 /  #8
Some States are legalizing Same sex marriage find a good friend that would go along with it.
Talk to other Poles who did not go back and see what they tell you . You will be surprised.
Eurola 4 | 1,906  
14 Dec 2006 /  #9
Jim, you are putting bad ideas in Bartosz's mind! :)
Jim  
14 Dec 2006 /  #10
I just heard that Marriage news on the radio tonight and was amazed. Maybe he had some bad ideas in his head already.
Eurola 4 | 1,906  
14 Dec 2006 /  #11
I wish the government pass some kind of immigration law and resolve the issue for many. I feel bad for a lot of people desparate to be here. Many, very good people, could start legally contributing to this country.

For now, many lawyers are just making money on false promises.
shewolf  
14 Dec 2006 /  #12
Some States are legalizing Same sex marriage find a good friend that would go along with it.

But it would be alot more fun for bartosz to marry a woman. :)
Jim  
14 Dec 2006 /  #13
You know I was kidding. And you are the one that wants to marry him. Do you have a picture or profile for him to see? It would help.
Eurola 4 | 1,906  
14 Dec 2006 /  #14
Bartosz is going to be surprised... :) He became a subject of our conversation.
Yes, Shewolf, I hope Bartosz is a nice man and he knows what's good for him.
krysia 23 | 3,057  
15 Dec 2006 /  #15
If you overstay your visa, you can apply for an extension, but that will only last for a while. And it's true, once you go back to Poland, you won't be able to come to the US for 10 years. So the best ( and probably the only) solution is to get married to a US citizen. And you only have to be married for 3 years to get citizenship, then get a divorce if you don't like each other. I heard you can pay $5.000 or more for such an activity.
Jim  
15 Dec 2006 /  #16
How long have you been here? How creative are you..rapidimmigration.com/usa/1_eng_kit_asylum.html
spain  
15 Dec 2006 /  #17
married just becouse you are in love !!!!!!

all the poles are like this man , thinking in work money ??????

go back to your country that why is a **** hole !!!!!!
for people like you!!
FISZ 24 | 2,116  
15 Dec 2006 /  #18
I wanna stay in usa but my papers are out of date. I am trying, asking and it seems like the only way to stay here is to get a wife with usa citizenship. Any other sugestions?

Hopefully Poland will soon be entered into the Wisa Waiver Program. Some say October 2007 but we'll see
bunnie 2 | 20  
15 Dec 2006 /  #19
Fisz...can you explain the Wisa Waiver Program? Where can I get info on this? Thanks!
FISZ 24 | 2,116  
15 Dec 2006 /  #20
travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html
Kowalski 7 | 621  
15 Dec 2006 /  #21
Also:
usembassy.state.gov/poland/tallinn1.html
Eurola 4 | 1,906  
15 Dec 2006 /  #22
Krysia, I heard that a "business" marriage for papers goes for $15000!!! Could get rich getting thru a string of "unhappy" marriages!! :)
krysia 23 | 3,057  
15 Dec 2006 /  #23
The truth they don't tell you about the visa waiver program: You have to go back. This visa is for visiting only. If you overstay this visa, no lawyer, no marriage, nothing will help you to stay in the US. You will be deported right away if caught.

No lawyer will even touch this case.
Jim  
15 Dec 2006 /  #24
Krysia, I heard that a "business" marriage for papers goes for $15000!!! Could get rich getting thru a string of "unhappy" marriages!!

You don't have to be unhappy when they live in another house for 3 years.
krysia 23 | 3,057  
15 Dec 2006 /  #25
$15.000. Sounds good, but .....OK. I know this couple who got illegally married. He's polish, she a US citizen. They don't live together, in fact the guy has a wife with him, but "pretended" they got divorced. They had to go to the USCIS office and there they were asking them VERY private questions. And since the guy overstayed his Polish visa, the US goverment is cracking down on cases like that, now the US "wife" has to deal with it, saying that he's her "husband" and she needs him, etc.

I personally don't like what they are doing. I don't like cheaters and liers.
Bit it's none of my business.
Eurola 4 | 1,906  
15 Dec 2006 /  #26
Yes, it is a very unethical way to gain a citizenship in the US. However, I've seen adds in polish papers and on line about "business" marriages. It spoils the image and make INS more vigilant. You're right, one can get him/herself in a lot of trouble doing it, but it does happen.

I think, it's different, if it is a real marriage. You need to through all the personal questions anyway. My American friend married a man from South Africa. They went through a lot of hassle, but it's love...Oh.
hello 22 | 891  
15 Dec 2006 /  #27
Yes, it is a very unethical way to gain a citizenship in the US.

Depends. If two people love each other (I mean - not the "business" people, but let's say a Polish man met a Polish woman, but the Polish man has no valid papers and marries a US citizen for papers). Or many other possible reasons. If the governments are ethical, people will be ethical too. But it will never happen so I dont' think it's so "unethical".
Eurola 4 | 1,906  
15 Dec 2006 /  #28
I think, it's different, if it is a real marriage. You need to through all the personal questions anyway. My American friend married a man from South Africa. They went through a lot of hassle, but it's love...Oh.

I mention it too - this is fine. It's Love.
krysia 23 | 3,057  
15 Dec 2006 /  #29
And too, everything in a marriage is 50-50. So when they do get a divorce after 3 years, after getting their citizenship, everything they owe is split in half, their income, assets. Unless they sign a pre-nuptial agreement.

And yes, that's true. There are many reasons why they want to marry for papers, some ethical some not.
hello 22 | 891  
15 Dec 2006 /  #30
I wonder if the people from the INS who check such marriages actually are able to find out if they couple signed a pre-nuptial agreement?

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